Re: What has Bloom done to revitalize Cardinals organization?
Posted: 19 Feb 2026 13:24 pm
Made finding out how to watch the games like finding an illegal speakeasy. So mysterious it must be worth it.
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No amount of repeating your mantra is going to change the facts. So if the coaches they already had produced a team 19 games out of first last year and they added all those coaches then they should be playoff bound this year. Right? I mean coaches make all the difference. Right? Why do you think fans aren't showing up to the ballpark? No star power. No top talent to watch. No chance of competing. Would you waste your money on them?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 08:29 amlol well you saying players and executives and anyone who is actually involved in the game are wrong and coaches don’t make a huge difference isn’t a very compelling argument. And sure Dewitt could spend money even though fans aren’t showing up to ball park to watch the team and they lostCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
Millions on the tv deal but he’s not going to so why would I constantly cry about that? They are rebuilding. Rebuilding teams rebuild then when they have their core in place spend money to fill in the blanks they need. I’m glad there’s a direction finally instead of the sustain mediocrity approach you love so much.
They are eventually going to have to pay top talent if they want to win. No amount of young guys is going to change that. So why not sign decent talent now and put a competitive team on the field? When all of this hoopla started that had won 83 games and were withing inches of getting a playoff spot. Then the Woo article came out and the team changed over night. They started gutting payroll and planning to lose. They sold the fans on some mythical 3-5 year plan that, even if it does work and there's doubt of it, still is going to require expensive talent to come to fruition. So why make the fans suffer though when they could just sign some of that talent now and have a chance to at least compete?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:53 amI completely agree. The Cardinals are not about competing; they are about championships.CCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
I think your model of competing works most times. It’s tried and proven. Especially for most cardinals teams.
I think this hole was deeper than most, requiring a new template, one the Cardinals didn’t own. So they are writing it as we go.
I really like our saturation of young arms. One will surprise. Cheap.
I like our saturation of middle infielders. I think that same type of emphasis is coming to the outfield. I think it starts with a Church type.
I too don’t look forward to 70 wins as odds project. I think when they are done, it will be a better day.
This discussion has been had all winter.CCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 15:38 pmThey are eventually going to have to pay top talent if they want to win. No amount of young guys is going to change that. So why not sign decent talent now and put a competitive team on the field? When all of this hoopla started that had won 83 games and were withing inches of getting a playoff spot. Then the Woo article came out and the team changed over night. They started gutting payroll and planning to lose. They sold the fans on some mythical 3-5 year plan that, even if it does work and there's doubt of it, still is going to require expensive talent to come to fruition. So why make the fans suffer though when they could just sign some of that talent now and have a chance to at least compete?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:53 amI completely agree. The Cardinals are not about competing; they are about championships.CCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
I think your model of competing works most times. It’s tried and proven. Especially for most cardinals teams.
I think this hole was deeper than most, requiring a new template, one the Cardinals didn’t own. So they are writing it as we go.
I really like our saturation of young arms. One will surprise. Cheap.
I like our saturation of middle infielders. I think that same type of emphasis is coming to the outfield. I think it starts with a Church type.
I too don’t look forward to 70 wins as odds project. I think when they are done, it will be a better day.
lol he fixed the development system so players will be able to contribute better when they come up. The players that are up now were screwed up in their development by the awful system mo establishedCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 15:28 pmNo amount of repeating your mantra is going to change the facts. So if the coaches they already had produced a team 19 games out of first last year and they added all those coaches then they should be playoff bound this year. Right? I mean coaches make all the difference. Right? Why do you think fans aren't showing up to the ballpark? No star power. No top talent to watch. No chance of competing. Would you waste your money on them?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 08:29 amlol well you saying players and executives and anyone who is actually involved in the game are wrong and coaches don’t make a huge difference isn’t a very compelling argument. And sure Dewitt could spend money even though fans aren’t showing up to ball park to watch the team and they lostCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
Millions on the tv deal but he’s not going to so why would I constantly cry about that? They are rebuilding. Rebuilding teams rebuild then when they have their core in place spend money to fill in the blanks they need. I’m glad there’s a direction finally instead of the sustain mediocrity approach you love so much.
You mean the system that made them perennial contenders for nearly two decades? Geez, what an awful system that was.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 16:17 pmlol he fixed the development system so players will be able to contribute better when they come up. The players that are up now were screwed up in their development by the awful system mo establishedCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 15:28 pmNo amount of repeating your mantra is going to change the facts. So if the coaches they already had produced a team 19 games out of first last year and they added all those coaches then they should be playoff bound this year. Right? I mean coaches make all the difference. Right? Why do you think fans aren't showing up to the ballpark? No star power. No top talent to watch. No chance of competing. Would you waste your money on them?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 08:29 amlol well you saying players and executives and anyone who is actually involved in the game are wrong and coaches don’t make a huge difference isn’t a very compelling argument. And sure Dewitt could spend money even though fans aren’t showing up to ball park to watch the team and they lostCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
Millions on the tv deal but he’s not going to so why would I constantly cry about that? They are rebuilding. Rebuilding teams rebuild then when they have their core in place spend money to fill in the blanks they need. I’m glad there’s a direction finally instead of the sustain mediocrity approach you love so much.
Somebody done stole Scouty’s schtick.CCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 20:30 pmYou mean the system that made them perennial contenders for nearly two decades? Geez, what an awful system that was.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 16:17 pmlol he fixed the development system so players will be able to contribute better when they come up. The players that are up now were screwed up in their development by the awful system mo establishedCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 15:28 pmNo amount of repeating your mantra is going to change the facts. So if the coaches they already had produced a team 19 games out of first last year and they added all those coaches then they should be playoff bound this year. Right? I mean coaches make all the difference. Right? Why do you think fans aren't showing up to the ballpark? No star power. No top talent to watch. No chance of competing. Would you waste your money on them?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 08:29 amlol well you saying players and executives and anyone who is actually involved in the game are wrong and coaches don’t make a huge difference isn’t a very compelling argument. And sure Dewitt could spend money even though fans aren’t showing up to ball park to watch the team and they lostCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
Millions on the tv deal but he’s not going to so why would I constantly cry about that? They are rebuilding. Rebuilding teams rebuild then when they have their core in place spend money to fill in the blanks they need. I’m glad there’s a direction finally instead of the sustain mediocrity approach you love so much.![]()
This Bloom sure has some powerful magic. If he succeeds it's because he's a freaking genius and if he fails...well...Mo screwed it up so bad that it'll take years to fix. Sounds reasonable.
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lol yea they were ready to go to the World Series the past three seasons you’re sure right and those humiliating one and done post seasons appearances really showed they were on the cusp of a dynasty lol the mighty mo sure built a dynasty and bad old bloom came in and tore down the juggernaut lol but hey you like mediocrity that’s coolCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 20:30 pmYou mean the system that made them perennial contenders for nearly two decades? Geez, what an awful system that was.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 16:17 pmlol he fixed the development system so players will be able to contribute better when they come up. The players that are up now were screwed up in their development by the awful system mo establishedCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 15:28 pmNo amount of repeating your mantra is going to change the facts. So if the coaches they already had produced a team 19 games out of first last year and they added all those coaches then they should be playoff bound this year. Right? I mean coaches make all the difference. Right? Why do you think fans aren't showing up to the ballpark? No star power. No top talent to watch. No chance of competing. Would you waste your money on them?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 08:29 amlol well you saying players and executives and anyone who is actually involved in the game are wrong and coaches don’t make a huge difference isn’t a very compelling argument. And sure Dewitt could spend money even though fans aren’t showing up to ball park to watch the team and they lostCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
Millions on the tv deal but he’s not going to so why would I constantly cry about that? They are rebuilding. Rebuilding teams rebuild then when they have their core in place spend money to fill in the blanks they need. I’m glad there’s a direction finally instead of the sustain mediocrity approach you love so much.![]()
This Bloom sure has some powerful magic. If he succeeds it's because he's a freaking genius and if he fails...well...Mo screwed it up so bad that it'll take years to fix. Sounds reasonable.
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Until they spend some money there will never be another Cardinals "Dynasty". In today's baseball the Dodgers are as close to a dynasty as it gets and we all know what they did to achieve it. The teams that spend at least decent amounts to acquire top tier talent have a chance of getting hot if they reach the playoffs. The goal is to get in and then see if you can get on a roll because you ain't ever going to out talent the Dodgers and their enormous payroll.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 22:14 pmlol yea they were ready to go to the World Series the past three seasons you’re sure right and those humiliating one and done post seasons appearances really showed they were on the cusp of a dynasty lol the mighty mo sure built a dynasty and bad old bloom came in and tore down the juggernaut lol but hey you like mediocrity that’s coolCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 20:30 pmYou mean the system that made them perennial contenders for nearly two decades? Geez, what an awful system that was.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 16:17 pmlol he fixed the development system so players will be able to contribute better when they come up. The players that are up now were screwed up in their development by the awful system mo establishedCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 15:28 pmNo amount of repeating your mantra is going to change the facts. So if the coaches they already had produced a team 19 games out of first last year and they added all those coaches then they should be playoff bound this year. Right? I mean coaches make all the difference. Right? Why do you think fans aren't showing up to the ballpark? No star power. No top talent to watch. No chance of competing. Would you waste your money on them?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 08:29 amlol well you saying players and executives and anyone who is actually involved in the game are wrong and coaches don’t make a huge difference isn’t a very compelling argument. And sure Dewitt could spend money even though fans aren’t showing up to ball park to watch the team and they lostCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
Millions on the tv deal but he’s not going to so why would I constantly cry about that? They are rebuilding. Rebuilding teams rebuild then when they have their core in place spend money to fill in the blanks they need. I’m glad there’s a direction finally instead of the sustain mediocrity approach you love so much.![]()
This Bloom sure has some powerful magic. If he succeeds it's because he's a freaking genius and if he fails...well...Mo screwed it up so bad that it'll take years to fix. Sounds reasonable.
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I don't know the statistics, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Cardinals spend a higher percentage of their revenues on player salaries than the Dodgers do.CCard wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 03:56 amUntil they spend some money there will never be another Cardinals "Dynasty". In today's baseball the Dodgers are as close to a dynasty as it gets and we all know what they did to achieve it. The teams that spend at least decent amounts to acquire top tier talent have a chance of getting hot if they reach the playoffs. The goal is to get in and then see if you can get on a roll because you ain't ever going to out talent the Dodgers and their enormous payroll.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 22:14 pmlol yea they were ready to go to the World Series the past three seasons you’re sure right and those humiliating one and done post seasons appearances really showed they were on the cusp of a dynasty lol the mighty mo sure built a dynasty and bad old bloom came in and tore down the juggernaut lol but hey you like mediocrity that’s coolCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 20:30 pmYou mean the system that made them perennial contenders for nearly two decades? Geez, what an awful system that was.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 16:17 pmlol he fixed the development system so players will be able to contribute better when they come up. The players that are up now were screwed up in their development by the awful system mo establishedCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 15:28 pmNo amount of repeating your mantra is going to change the facts. So if the coaches they already had produced a team 19 games out of first last year and they added all those coaches then they should be playoff bound this year. Right? I mean coaches make all the difference. Right? Why do you think fans aren't showing up to the ballpark? No star power. No top talent to watch. No chance of competing. Would you waste your money on them?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 08:29 amlol well you saying players and executives and anyone who is actually involved in the game are wrong and coaches don’t make a huge difference isn’t a very compelling argument. And sure Dewitt could spend money even though fans aren’t showing up to ball park to watch the team and they lostCCard wrote: ↑19 Feb 2026 05:40 amNo and I never said that. But I also don't believe that coaches make a huge difference either. Can they help? Sure, but not likely to turn and average player into a superstar. That takes talent. Regardless, you can't tell me that they can't afford the coaches and other things and still not field a competitve team. That's bull being pushed by sycophants on this board and ownership. Other teams do it and the Cards can too. There's no excuse to not compete. If they're going to keep this system in place and eventually sign some top free agenst then why can't they just sign the top free agents now? You can't answer that can you? BTW, you keep harping Baez, tell me, has he faced a major league pitcher yet?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 23:34 pmlol so you will explain everything away to players making themselves better instead of giving the development system credit for anything. It’s just a shame all of those failed players coming up the past few years chose not to develop themselves and fix all of their problems and chose instead toCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 22:49 pmAnd you disrespect the fact that a player can get better without some coach making him better. It cuts both ways. As for why I bring up Springfield is because of the bull that the Cards minor leagues was in shambles and barren. It was a lie. There's no way Bloom had that much of an affect on Springfield.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 21:34 pmYou keep bringing up Springfield winning the championship like blooms development people had nothing to do with it lol Larry day and his people started working with Baez last January on cutting down his strike outs guess what he went from a fading prospect on his way out the door to a great prospect who helped them win the championship their development people worked with the pitchers including mautz who went from a 3-13 5.15 ERA pitcher at A+ to a 8-3 2.98 ERA at AA that kind of helped their championship run just because you don’t acknowledge what he’s doing to help the development systems doesn’t mean anything when results are already starting to showCCard wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 20:35 pmSo they created 39 new positions? Sounds like something smelly to me. Secondly, are those positions permanent? Thirdly, none of that excuses not fielding a competitive team. Fourth, where players eat doesn't matter at all and could just as easily be a detriment. They just won a championship in Springfield and I hardly think any of these "new" hires and eating together had anything to do with it. Just more propaganda in my opinion. The fact is that they are planning to lose on purpose. It's just wrong.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 15:45 pm Some of the items discussed in video linked :
When Bloom arrived in Oct.2023 , the Cardinals had 39 front office members in Baseball Ops, Player Development, , Physical Performance, and
Player Technology. Since that time, Bloom has 78 positons in those 4 areas.. ( doubling the personnel to enhance those areas )
As one example, there was not a full-time catcher instructor nor an outfield instructor ( Walker, for example, had no OF instructor when they transitioned him from IF to OF when he was in the minors. ) They do now in the minors.
Josua Baez was floundering his way thru the minors and thru their enhanced technology performance center, instructors/coaches there have improved Baez considerably making him a much better player close to major league ready.
This year's TC also has numerous coaches/instructors at various stations that not only watch but give immediate feedback to the players that didn't happen previously .
Another change is their new 'Birdfeeder' dining room complex where the minor leaguers can sit with major leaguers for lunch . Previously , the major league guys sat separate and rarely interacted with the minor leaguers invited to camp. So better interaction with players from all levels.
The minor league personnel has been improved and the ranking of the system is now highly rated among all 32 teams. Bodes well for the future.
If you wish to listen to the full video , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnvyrmxVEk
Just suck. I mean I guess you think they just decide I will be better and boom miracles happen they just get better. And it’s a shame Baez chose to wait until the development team started working with him to decide to develop himself if he had chosen to do it when he was drafted he would have been in the majors already lol
Millions on the tv deal but he’s not going to so why would I constantly cry about that? They are rebuilding. Rebuilding teams rebuild then when they have their core in place spend money to fill in the blanks they need. I’m glad there’s a direction finally instead of the sustain mediocrity approach you love so much.![]()
This Bloom sure has some powerful magic. If he succeeds it's because he's a freaking genius and if he fails...well...Mo screwed it up so bad that it'll take years to fix. Sounds reasonable.
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