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Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
by ScotchMIrish
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
You after the trade:
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
Why do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 13:46 pm
by renostl
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
He is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 13:47 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
Hofikebrucee wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:53 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Nice, I didn’t see that thread.
But yea, my assumption is that he is viewed primarily as a RHP that will normally throw RH against LHH, but occasionally switch to LHP if facing a LHH with drastic splits. And quite honestly, I hope they don’t totally give up on letting him at least continue to throw LH outside of actual games. If he can develop into a guy who can serviceably throw LH when needed, especially if he just ends up a bullpen guy, that would really be helpful for his career. I get that that would be worst case scenario for him, but never hurts to plan for the future.
My comments are not intended to demean the player - he sounds more like a circus act or something the old white Sox would have entertained years ago. At any rate, I’d pay to see a couple of innings if he switch pitched- just for the pure entertainment value.
98 mph has entertainment value of its' own.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 13:53 pm
by ggnoobs
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 09:14 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
His value as a prospect isn’t about the fact that he could throw both LH and RH. He’s not as good LH as he is RH. Probably a LH reliever, if that’s all he threw. His value is the kind of pitcher he is throwing RH.
Yeah I think it was Kyle Reis who mentioned that Cijntje would likely pitch as a starter exclusively from the right side, but maybe he could throw out of the pen in between starts as a Left handed reliever.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 13:56 pm
by ScotchMIrish
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:46 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
He is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
Where was he a proficient switch hitter?
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:13 pm
by 12xu
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 11:07 am
12xu wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:25 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
It has already been reported that Cijntje is now pitching almost exclusively as a RH.
Why waste an opportunity like this? It might be like the Dodgers telling Shohei he cant hit.
Your posts like this are so completely stupid I cannot believe you are serious.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:14 pm
by ecleme22
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
You after the trade:
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
Why do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
He’s been switched pitching since Little league, moron
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:18 pm
by renostl
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:56 pm
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:46 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
He is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
Where was he a proficient switch hitter?
Proficient was as a teenager.
Was meant to describe his athletic abilities and
not becoming Rick Ankiel. Not meant to mislead, although
when rereading it, it does.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:22 pm
by Cardinals4Life
12xu wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:13 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 11:07 am
12xu wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:25 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
It has already been reported that Cijntje is now pitching almost exclusively as a RH.
Why waste an opportunity like this? It might be like the Dodgers telling Shohei he cant hit.
Your posts like this are so completely stupid I cannot believe you are serious.
Why do you think that? You have a guy that can pitch with both arms and you just want to write off half of his ability? Doesn't seem like the right choice this early in his career.
It's okay to buck the norms when you have an athlete who can help you in multiple ways.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:28 pm
by ScotchMIrish
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:56 pm
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:46 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
He is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
Where was he a proficient switch hitter?
Proficient was as a teenager.
Was meant to describe his athletic abilities and
not becoming Rick Ankiel. Not meant to mislead, although
when rereading it, it does.
Okay good enough. I thought you were implying he was Ohtani. I would point out that Greg Maddux had a Dad body and registered 300+ wins.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:31 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:28 pm
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:56 pm
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:46 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
He is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
Where was he a proficient switch hitter?
Proficient was as a teenager.
Was meant to describe his athletic abilities and
not becoming Rick Ankiel. Not meant to mislead, although
when rereading it, it does.
Okay good enough. I thought you were implying he was Ohtani. I would point out that Greg Maddux had a Dad body and registered 300+ wins.
As far as build goes, he's built like Framber Valdez.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:41 pm
by renostl
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:28 pm
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:56 pm
renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:46 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
He is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
Where was he a proficient switch hitter?
Proficient was as a teenager.
Was meant to describe his athletic abilities and
not becoming Rick Ankiel. Not meant to mislead, although
when rereading it, it does.
Okay good enough. I thought you were implying he was Ohtani. I would point out that Greg Maddux had a Dad body and registered 300+ wins.
Makes baseball a good game.
He beat Reno High at state in 1983. My wife didn't care for him.
I wasn't out there yet, not until '85. Then I did both places for years.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 14:42 pm
by ScotchMIrish
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
You after the trade:
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
Why do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
He’s been switched pitching since Little league, moron
The Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 15:53 pm
by AnExParrot
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
You after the trade:
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
Why do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
He’s been switched pitching since Little league, moron
The Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.
Well it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
by ScotchMIrish
AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
You after the trade:
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
Why do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
He’s been switched pitching since Little league, moron
The Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.
Well it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.
With an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.
Re: The ambidextrous pitcher
Posted: 06 Feb 2026 17:50 pm
by ecleme22
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am
He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
You after the trade:
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
Why do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
He’s been switched pitching since Little league, moron
The Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.
You: “ He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed.”
I said “since.”
He threw both at Miss State.