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rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 08:48 am Hopefully C. Bloom now shifts to seeking that RHHing OF via the trade route using JoJo + (Noot, maybe a catcher?).

Thats the route. Trade quality for a young RH hitting outfielder who fits in to the rebuild plan. Gotta be some team out there who covers their catching prospects.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 15:43 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 08:48 am Hopefully C. Bloom now shifts to seeking that RHHing OF via the trade route using JoJo + (Noot, maybe a catcher?).

That’s what I’m hoping he does because if it comes to Pham and grichuk just use valezquez instead he sucks but he does have more power

My opinion: unless there’s a RHH OFer who has struggled, then maybe you trade Noot for him.

But I don’t think the play is to get a right handed hitter in a trade with JoJo or a catcher. Maybe Pages.

Most trades are all about the future.

Now is Pham an answer? Or Grichuk? Maybe, since they still want to give the young OFs a shot.

Keep in mind TP can be had on a minor league deal. No risk.

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

juan good eye wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 19:05 pm

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 00:16 am

juan good eye wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 23:46 pm

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 21:19 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:50 pm Andujar just signed with the Padres. Skip out on signing Randall Grichuk. He is not a good hitter. Please add a bat but make it a real one.

As long as we sign some pieces by 2027 I’m good with that.

Pieces for what?

What we find out we are missing in 2026.

To accomplish what tho? 80ish wins? Central division crown? WS contention?

None of those. It’s not that hard. See who performs in 2026 then start adding pieces. Once the money, we are paying other teams for our ex players is freed up, they will be able to spend more and fill holes.
People act like Dewit didn’t spend anything.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 21:16 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

I'm of the opinion that there isn’t much to sign.
If you have examples of some good examples of players that contradict that. I'm all ears.

Trades. Very difficult to predict.
I see no reason to limit the return as this season may
prove that none of the current group contains an answer. Do you expect all 3 of Walker, Scott, and Nootbaar to be the answer to the Cardinals outfield?

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:18 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 21:16 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

I'm of the opinion that there isn’t much to sign.
If you have examples of some good examples of players that contradict that. I'm all ears.

Trades. Very difficult to predict.
I see no reason to limit the return as this season may
prove that none of the current group contains an answer. Do you expect all 3 of Walker, Scott, and Nootbaar to be the answer to the Cardinals outfield?

The answer to 2026?

This team, I think, will be better than expected. But we are not trying to get some 150 game thumper. Grichuk and/or Pham-type is probably the play.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:51 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:18 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 21:16 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

I'm of the opinion that there isn’t much to sign.
If you have examples of some good examples of players that contradict that. I'm all ears.

Trades. Very difficult to predict.
I see no reason to limit the return as this season may
prove that none of the current group contains an answer. Do you expect all 3 of Walker, Scott, and Nootbaar to be the answer to the Cardinals outfield?

The answer to 2026?

This team, I think, will be better than expected. But we are not trying to get some 150 game thumper. Grichuk and/or Pham-type is probably the play.

You are more likely to be correct.

I just don't see either player being any real benefit.
I really don't. If that's the play I'd be just as pleased seeing a couple players fill that role from the guys in the system

Tyler was for humor maybe poor humor but humor all the same

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:51 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:18 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 21:16 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

I'm of the opinion that there isn’t much to sign.
If you have examples of some good examples of players that contradict that. I'm all ears.

Trades. Very difficult to predict.
I see no reason to limit the return as this season may
prove that none of the current group contains an answer. Do you expect all 3 of Walker, Scott, and Nootbaar to be the answer to the Cardinals outfield?

The answer to 2026?

This team, I think, will be better than expected. But we are not trying to get some 150 game thumper. Grichuk and/or Pham-type is probably the play.

Probably but it would be a bad play

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 15:43 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 08:48 am Hopefully C. Bloom now shifts to seeking that RHHing OF via the trade route using JoJo + (Noot, maybe a catcher?).

That’s what I’m hoping he does because if it comes to Pham and grichuk just use valezquez instead he sucks but he does have more power

+1

No interest in either of them

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 19:24 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 08:48 am Hopefully C. Bloom now shifts to seeking that RHHing OF via the trade route using JoJo + (Noot, maybe a catcher?).

Thats the route. Trade quality for a young RH hitting outfielder who fits in to the rebuild plan. Gotta be some team out there who covers their catching prospects.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 23:23 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:51 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:18 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 21:16 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

I'm of the opinion that there isn’t much to sign.
If you have examples of some good examples of players that contradict that. I'm all ears.

Trades. Very difficult to predict.
I see no reason to limit the return as this season may
prove that none of the current group contains an answer. Do you expect all 3 of Walker, Scott, and Nootbaar to be the answer to the Cardinals outfield?

The answer to 2026?

This team, I think, will be better than expected. But we are not trying to get some 150 game thumper. Grichuk and/or Pham-type is probably the play.

Probably but it would be a bad play

Because why?

Because we should trade for a stud OFer in a rebuilding year?

I don’t love RG, but the dude has hit lefties, and he probably will be cheap and won’t expect a bunch of PT.

That’s kind of like exactly what we need right now…

ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:20 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 23:23 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:51 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:18 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 21:16 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

I'm of the opinion that there isn’t much to sign.
If you have examples of some good examples of players that contradict that. I'm all ears.

Trades. Very difficult to predict.
I see no reason to limit the return as this season may
prove that none of the current group contains an answer. Do you expect all 3 of Walker, Scott, and Nootbaar to be the answer to the Cardinals outfield?

The answer to 2026?

This team, I think, will be better than expected. But we are not trying to get some 150 game thumper. Grichuk and/or Pham-type is probably the play.

Probably but it would be a bad play

Because why?

Because we should trade for a stud OFer in a rebuilding year?

I don’t love RG, but the dude has hit lefties, and he probably will be cheap and won’t expect a bunch of PT.

That’s kind of like exactly what we need right now…

lol he hit .227 .273 .703 against lefties last season that’s not exactly what they need. I don’t expect them to trade for a stud major league outfielder but they could trade for an outfield prospect who is near ready would be good. If it comes to old fading players like grichuk just go with valazquez. Because once there’s and injury it’s watch grichuk suck everyday no thanks

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:30 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:20 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 23:23 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:51 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 22:18 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 21:16 pm

renostl wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 20:23 pm

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 05:09 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!

I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

I can agree with the trade route and maybe Thomas can be a player.
I like Bolte a bit better but he was in Vegas last year so not really a ready
to go player.

Take caution with Sacramento numbers, at least check those home/road splits.

Could probably get Tyler for about what AZ is paying Arenado or less. That would
light the CT board up.

The play is to sign a guy. Or maybe a Noot or pages trade.

Bloom is trying to find a RHH to supplement the OF. Not start 150 games

I'm of the opinion that there isn’t much to sign.
If you have examples of some good examples of players that contradict that. I'm all ears.

Trades. Very difficult to predict.
I see no reason to limit the return as this season may
prove that none of the current group contains an answer. Do you expect all 3 of Walker, Scott, and Nootbaar to be the answer to the Cardinals outfield?

The answer to 2026?

This team, I think, will be better than expected. But we are not trying to get some 150 game thumper. Grichuk and/or Pham-type is probably the play.

Probably but it would be a bad play

Because why?

Because we should trade for a stud OFer in a rebuilding year?

I don’t love RG, but the dude has hit lefties, and he probably will be cheap and won’t expect a bunch of PT.

That’s kind of like exactly what we need right now…

lol he hit .227 .273 .703 against lefties last season that’s not exactly what they need. I don’t expect them to trade for a stud major league outfielder but they could trade for an outfield prospect who is near ready would be good. If it comes to old fading players like grichuk just go with valazquez. Because once there’s and injury it’s watch grichuk suck everyday no thanks

RG over the last 5 seasons or so has splits that heavily fave LHP.

Why trade for a stud AAA OFer right now? Why is that a big deal in 2026?

We just picked up 2 OFers in the Donovan trade and have a number of pitchers/players we can trade for another young OFer in the next year.

So why is RIGHT NOW the time to do it?

Maybe they sign RG and he plays more than expected because of injury. WHO CARES? It’s a rebuild. Play Church more. Whatever…

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 19:24 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026 08:48 am Hopefully C. Bloom now shifts to seeking that RHHing OF via the trade route using JoJo + (Noot, maybe a catcher?).

Thats the route. Trade quality for a young RH hitting outfielder who fits in to the rebuild plan. Gotta be some team out there who covers their catching prospects.

Agree! Cards have depth in catching. If Herrera is the catcher, Pages could be used in a trade or if Crooks , Pozo or Bernal can handle the catching , trade Pages and throw in Noot to sweeten the trade.

I wouldn’t be against adding Grichuk. The guy has mashed lefties pretty good. If they’re set on adding a RH OFer, he’d be fine with me. Any of the usual names that were thrown around here would be fine with me, but also I really don’t care if they dont sign any of them either. Not really my focus this season.

But, sure, if they could trade Pages and Romero or Noot could net us a good young one, that would be great. I’m not going out of my way to trade any of my other catchers, though.