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Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
by 11WSChamps
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
by sikeston bulldog2
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:04 am
by Jeff Goldblum
When Brendon Donovan is the best player on your roster there are serious problems. He's a shumaker or a taguchi.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:07 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:04 am When Brendon Donovan is the best player on your roster there are serious problems. He's a shumaker or a taguchi.
Funny you said that. I was just thinking this. Who is our star player? No one knows. For most it’s a player who hasn’t even taken a pro at bat.

Now that is bad.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:11 am
by 11WSChamps
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.
It's the St.Louis Cardinals.

It's not Tampa Bay, or Cleveland, or even Milwaukee.

The owners of this franchise choose to take on a tradition of baseball at its highest level and have driven it into Pittsburgh territory.

They decided instead to take the fans and that legacy for granted with the first shovel of dirt turned over at Ballpark Village and the rest as they say is history.

And now they want to gaslight the yokels into believing this is somehow going to turn out alright by sprinkling pixie dust over a few "prospects".

And the fools just can't get enough.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:15 am
by sikeston bulldog2
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:11 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.
It's the St.Louis Cardinals.

It's not Tampa Bay, or Cleveland, or even Milwaukee.

The owners of this franchise choose to take on a tradition of baseball at its highest level and have driven it into Pittsburgh territory.

They decided instead to take the fans and that legacy for granted with the first shovel of dirt turned over at Ballpark Village and the rest as they say is history.

And now they want to gaslight the yokels into believing this is somehow going to turn out alright by sprinkling pixie dust over a few "prospects".

And the fools just can't get enough.
I hear ya. Good write. I think the hole we fell into was too deep to buy our way out. Too expensive.

The other route was much cheaper, and will at minimum give a base at all the lower levels of the roster.

I also believe the few prospects you refer to are from a much larger group, a saturation event, hoping thru attrition that a few pan out.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:24 am
by 11WSChamps
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:15 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:11 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.
It's the St.Louis Cardinals.

It's not Tampa Bay, or Cleveland, or even Milwaukee.

The owners of this franchise choose to take on a tradition of baseball at its highest level and have driven it into Pittsburgh territory.

They decided instead to take the fans and that legacy for granted with the first shovel of dirt turned over at Ballpark Village and the rest as they say is history.

And now they want to gaslight the yokels into believing this is somehow going to turn out alright by sprinkling pixie dust over a few "prospects".

And the fools just can't get enough.
I hear ya. Good write. I think the hole we fell into was too deep to buy our way out. Too expensive.

The other route was much cheaper, and will at minimum give a base at all the lower levels of the roster.

I also believe the few prospects you refer to are from a much larger group, a saturation event, hoping thru attrition that a few pan out.
Yes I understand the theory what I don't believe is how this ownership group could let this happen.

At the risk of raising the wrath of anyone under 50 baseball is akin to religion here and in very few places if any is it the same or moreso especially not having an NFL franchise here.

DeWitt took the fans for a ride and here we are.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:29 am
by 45s
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
you are in control of how much you pay

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:31 am
by sikeston bulldog2
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:24 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:15 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:11 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.
It's the St.Louis Cardinals.

It's not Tampa Bay, or Cleveland, or even Milwaukee.

The owners of this franchise choose to take on a tradition of baseball at its highest level and have driven it into Pittsburgh territory.

They decided instead to take the fans and that legacy for granted with the first shovel of dirt turned over at Ballpark Village and the rest as they say is history.

And now they want to gaslight the yokels into believing this is somehow going to turn out alright by sprinkling pixie dust over a few "prospects".

And the fools just can't get enough.
I hear ya. Good write. I think the hole we fell into was too deep to buy our way out. Too expensive.

The other route was much cheaper, and will at minimum give a base at all the lower levels of the roster.

I also believe the few prospects you refer to are from a much larger group, a saturation event, hoping thru attrition that a few pan out.
Yes I understand the theory what I don't believe is how this ownership group could let this happen.

At the risk of raising the wrath of anyone under 50 baseball is akin to religion here and in very few places if any is it the same or moreso especially not having an NFL franchise here.

DeWitt took the fans for a ride and here we are.
Heres a thought. Maybe the boss is somewhat disconnected and merely goes by what his people tell him. Maybe he truly believes it’s ok.

Seems hard to believe any savvy elderly business man would let it sink this far.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:37 am
by 45s
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:31 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:24 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:15 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:11 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.
It's the St.Louis Cardinals.

It's not Tampa Bay, or Cleveland, or even Milwaukee.

The owners of this franchise choose to take on a tradition of baseball at its highest level and have driven it into Pittsburgh territory.

They decided instead to take the fans and that legacy for granted with the first shovel of dirt turned over at Ballpark Village and the rest as they say is history.

And now they want to gaslight the yokels into believing this is somehow going to turn out alright by sprinkling pixie dust over a few "prospects".

And the fools just can't get enough.
I hear ya. Good write. I think the hole we fell into was too deep to buy our way out. Too expensive.

The other route was much cheaper, and will at minimum give a base at all the lower levels of the roster.

I also believe the few prospects you refer to are from a much larger group, a saturation event, hoping thru attrition that a few pan out.
Yes I understand the theory what I don't believe is how this ownership group could let this happen.

At the risk of raising the wrath of anyone under 50 baseball is akin to religion here and in very few places if any is it the same or moreso especially not having an NFL franchise here.

DeWitt took the fans for a ride and here we are.
Heres a thought. Maybe the boss is somewhat disconnected and merely goes by what his people tell him. Maybe he truly believes it’s ok.

Seems hard to believe any savvy elderly business man would let it sink this far.
the profit margin is sinking??

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:40 am
by sikeston bulldog2
45s wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:37 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:31 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:24 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:15 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:11 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.
It's the St.Louis Cardinals.

It's not Tampa Bay, or Cleveland, or even Milwaukee.

The owners of this franchise choose to take on a tradition of baseball at its highest level and have driven it into Pittsburgh territory.

They decided instead to take the fans and that legacy for granted with the first shovel of dirt turned over at Ballpark Village and the rest as they say is history.

And now they want to gaslight the yokels into believing this is somehow going to turn out alright by sprinkling pixie dust over a few "prospects".

And the fools just can't get enough.
I hear ya. Good write. I think the hole we fell into was too deep to buy our way out. Too expensive.

The other route was much cheaper, and will at minimum give a base at all the lower levels of the roster.

I also believe the few prospects you refer to are from a much larger group, a saturation event, hoping thru attrition that a few pan out.
Yes I understand the theory what I don't believe is how this ownership group could let this happen.

At the risk of raising the wrath of anyone under 50 baseball is akin to religion here and in very few places if any is it the same or moreso especially not having an NFL franchise here.

DeWitt took the fans for a ride and here we are.
Heres a thought. Maybe the boss is somewhat disconnected and merely goes by what his people tell him. Maybe he truly believes it’s ok.

Seems hard to believe any savvy elderly business man would let it sink this far.
the profit margin is sinking??
I see three scenarios.

- he is gonna sell

- he is preparing for CBA results

- he’s rebuilding from bottom.

The wildcard is how active he is in the business.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:41 am
by Jeff Goldblum
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:07 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:04 am When Brendon Donovan is the best player on your roster there are serious problems. He's a shumaker or a taguchi.
Funny you said that. I was just thinking this. Who is our star player? No one knows. For most it’s a player who hasn’t even taken a pro at bat.

Now that is bad.
Burleson??

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:42 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:41 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:07 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:04 am When Brendon Donovan is the best player on your roster there are serious problems. He's a shumaker or a taguchi.
Funny you said that. I was just thinking this. Who is our star player? No one knows. For most it’s a player who hasn’t even taken a pro at bat.

Now that is bad.
Burleson??
Exactly our point.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:43 am
by 11WSChamps
45s wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:29 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
you are in control of how much you pay
Gee I never would have thought of that. :roll:

I am one of the lucky ones who can get free tickets

My original comment was sarcastic in nature.

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 07:45 am
by 45s
45s wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:37 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:31 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:24 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:15 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:11 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 07:01 am
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 06:59 am
Voldemort wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
BleedingBleu wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:34 pm The reality of the offseason was we actually traded the St Louis Cardinals for the Memphis Redbirds.
Great and accurate insight.
Yeah but we still have major league ticket prices.
I think the off season truly shows our posters competitive nature. They really don’t like not winning. That appears to be an obstacle.
It's the St.Louis Cardinals.

It's not Tampa Bay, or Cleveland, or even Milwaukee.

The owners of this franchise choose to take on a tradition of baseball at its highest level and have driven it into Pittsburgh territory.

They decided instead to take the fans and that legacy for granted with the first shovel of dirt turned over at Ballpark Village and the rest as they say is history.

And now they want to gaslight the yokels into believing this is somehow going to turn out alright by sprinkling pixie dust over a few "prospects".

And the fools just can't get enough.
I hear ya. Good write. I think the hole we fell into was too deep to buy our way out. Too expensive.

The other route was much cheaper, and will at minimum give a base at all the lower levels of the roster.

I also believe the few prospects you refer to are from a much larger group, a saturation event, hoping thru attrition that a few pan out.
Yes I understand the theory what I don't believe is how this ownership group could let this happen.

At the risk of raising the wrath of anyone under 50 baseball is akin to religion here and in very few places if any is it the same or moreso especially not having an NFL franchise here.

DeWitt took the fans for a ride and here we are.
Heres a thought. Maybe the boss is somewhat disconnected and merely goes by what his people tell him. Maybe he truly believes it’s ok.

Seems hard to believe any savvy elderly business man would let it sink this far.
the profit margin is sinking??
there are signs he is positioning the franchise for sale...

reducing/eliminating long term financial obligations makes the franchise much more marketable

Re: Sad Thing About Donovan Trade

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 08:07 am
by Melville
nighthawk wrote: 02 Feb 2026 20:31 pm Of all the players on the Cards roster, Donovan was the one player who exemplified the type of player the Cards were once quite proficientt in drafting and developing. A gamer, fundamentally sound, who was good to great in all aspects of play. A player that George Kissell could work with and bring out the best. Alas, such talent would have been wasted in a multi year rebuild.

Reminiscent of Wally Moon whose talents were wasted in the 1950s until he was traded to the Dodgers. Jose Cruz was another - talent wasted as the Cards struggled to find themselves in the 1970s.
Absolutely correct.
A player who made players around him better.
Exactly what is needed on the roster.
Foolish and unforced error in judgment to trade him.
Your post highlights a very important question.
Who in 2026 will step up to be "the one player who exemplifies the type of player the Cards" once believed in?