1 more pitcher on a one-year deal

[Stlcardsblues]

Garbage in garbage out. Keep signing slop and don't be surprised when it gets sloppy.

It’s not garbage if they pitch well and you flip them for prospects. I get you don’t like living in reality, but this is where Mo left the state of the franchise.

Your reality....We'll get or trade for cheap blue chip prospects, then when they become special we'll flip or trade them for even more blue plate specials. LOL How'd that work out for all the other MLB teams? That Cubs dynasty lasted a long time didn't it? Houston's garbage can scandal lasted a long time didn't it? What other teams have won through the vaunted system of flipping assets and tanking?

Nowhere in my post did I say to take the guys we got a flip them when they are established MLB players. I only mentioned singing the players now and flipping them for pieces to help us compete when that window opens.

You mean the mythical window where they give us their top picks for our players that are making more money and have less control? Fantasy land if you think you can build a winner this way. It helps to get some young players no doubt, but if you don't spend money you might as well be a minor league club.

Never did I say this was going to be a massive success without an increase in payroll when the time is right.

We first needed the reset and to rebuild a farm system. We need that farm system to continue to develop. Once the young core is in place you can take some of the excess prospects for more experience talent and at that point also start spending on high end free agents.

If DeWitt is going to keep payroll down for the next four or five years this will be a failure, if he allows proper spending when the time is right than this should be extremely successful.

You mean the farm system that so terrible that the Springfield Cardinals won the championship?

I was referring to the entire system. There are multiple teams.

[ScotchMIrish]

I would love to sign a veteran arm who can give us some innings. Lots of questions marks with our current starting staff, especially guys coming back from injuries and most likely on pitch counts.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents ... /level/mlb

Anyone on that list you would take a chance on?
Chris Bassitt on a $10 million dollar, 1-year deal? If he is doing well, trade him to a contender at the deadline. Provides some veteran leadership as well.

Call me crazy, but I have always wondered how Germán Márquez could do outside of Colorado with a good defense behind him. Dude is somehow still only 30?!?!

Frankie Montas is two years removed from 30 starts and a 4.84 ERA, I think he is a prime candidate for a one-year deal.

Marquez was worse away from home. Opponents hit .305 In Coors. .326 away from Coors.

[CCard]

Garbage in garbage out. Keep signing slop and don't be surprised when it gets sloppy.

It’s not garbage if they pitch well and you flip them for prospects. I get you don’t like living in reality, but this is where Mo left the state of the franchise.

Your reality....We'll get or trade for cheap blue chip prospects, then when they become special we'll flip or trade them for even more blue plate specials. LOL How'd that work out for all the other MLB teams? That Cubs dynasty lasted a long time didn't it? Houston's garbage can scandal lasted a long time didn't it? What other teams have won through the vaunted system of flipping assets and tanking?

Nowhere in my post did I say to take the guys we got a flip them when they are established MLB players. I only mentioned singing the players now and flipping them for pieces to help us compete when that window opens.

You mean the mythical window where they give us their top picks for our players that are making more money and have less control? Fantasy land if you think you can build a winner this way. It helps to get some young players no doubt, but if you don't spend money you might as well be a minor league club.

Never did I say this was going to be a massive success without an increase in payroll when the time is right.

We first needed the reset and to rebuild a farm system. We need that farm system to continue to develop. Once the young core is in place you can take some of the excess prospects for more experience talent and at that point also start spending on high end free agents.

If DeWitt is going to keep payroll down for the next four or five years this will be a failure, if he allows proper spending when the time is right than this should be extremely successful.

You mean the farm system that so terrible that the Springfield Cardinals won the championship?

I was referring to the entire system. There are multiple teams.

LOL..So the talent on the other minor league teams sucks but Springfield can win a championship. Sounds like you might not know what you're talking about there friend.

[FrankTheTank]

Marquez was worse away from home. Opponents hit .305 In Coors. .326 away from Coors.

Hey I said you can call me crazy! ha I dove into the stats too, but it always seemed to me he has the "stuff", but just never been able to put it together to be a team's productive #4 or 5 guy. I mean he will give you innings, just probably not very good ones, and since we have been watching Mikolas do that I will happily pull his name from consideration.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Marquez was worse away from home. Opponents hit .305 In Coors. .326 away from Coors.

Hey I said you can call me crazy! ha I dove into the stats too, but it always seemed to me he has the "stuff", but just never been able to put it together to be a team's productive #4 or 5 guy. I mean he will give you innings, just probably not very good ones, and since we have been watching Mikolas do that I will happily pull his name from consideration.

I hear ya. And being off the Rockies should account for five plus wins. Per year. Maybe.

[Stlcardsblues]

Garbage in garbage out. Keep signing slop and don't be surprised when it gets sloppy.

It’s not garbage if they pitch well and you flip them for prospects. I get you don’t like living in reality, but this is where Mo left the state of the franchise.

Your reality....We'll get or trade for cheap blue chip prospects, then when they become special we'll flip or trade them for even more blue plate specials. LOL How'd that work out for all the other MLB teams? That Cubs dynasty lasted a long time didn't it? Houston's garbage can scandal lasted a long time didn't it? What other teams have won through the vaunted system of flipping assets and tanking?

Nowhere in my post did I say to take the guys we got a flip them when they are established MLB players. I only mentioned singing the players now and flipping them for pieces to help us compete when that window opens.

You mean the mythical window where they give us their top picks for our players that are making more money and have less control? Fantasy land if you think you can build a winner this way. It helps to get some young players no doubt, but if you don't spend money you might as well be a minor league club.

Never did I say this was going to be a massive success without an increase in payroll when the time is right.

We first needed the reset and to rebuild a farm system. We need that farm system to continue to develop. Once the young core is in place you can take some of the excess prospects for more experience talent and at that point also start spending on high end free agents.

If DeWitt is going to keep payroll down for the next four or five years this will be a failure, if he allows proper spending when the time is right than this should be extremely successful.

You mean the farm system that so terrible that the Springfield Cardinals won the championship?

I was referring to the entire system. There are multiple teams.

LOL..So the talent on the other minor league teams sucks but Springfield can win a championship. Sounds like you might not know what you're talking about there friend.

I never said it sucks currently. It was in terrible shape a couple years ago. They also fully admitted the whole system had to be overhauled which is what Bloom spent the last two years working on. It’s improving but still has a ton more needed.

What I did say in multiple posts is I have been watching a ton of minor league games at all three levels to watch some of the players who are getting closer as watching the future get close was fun.

[renostl]

Garbage in garbage out. Keep signing slop and don't be surprised when it gets sloppy.

No one who’s been remotely paying attention would be surprised. Are you new to following the Cardinals??

50 years.

Actually with you on this one.
May satisfies the 1 year wonder role.
There are not any Cardinals SP with a single full MLB season in the books but AP.
I would not sign anybody who doesn't warrant signing for more than a season, preferably 3.
For the flip them crowd. Any productive SP with contract that matches is flippable more so from a higher self. Give the in vogue option outs. If they have a QO attached they use it to try FA without one.

Why would anyone want to flip a productive cheap pitcher? I mean it doesn't make sense.

Are you saying that you haven't read multiple comments from people who have suggested
players as flip candidates, May for instance?

Are you suggesting trading away cheap productive talent?

I think that you miss read the post.
What was said is that I have a preference for a pitcher that warrants more than a single season
preferably 3.
Where is cheap in that statement?
IF it is not an overpayment that pitcher is still flippable for the flip him crowd.

Slow down a notch, no need to argue everything.

[CCard]

Garbage in garbage out. Keep signing slop and don't be surprised when it gets sloppy.

It’s not garbage if they pitch well and you flip them for prospects. I get you don’t like living in reality, but this is where Mo left the state of the franchise.

Your reality....We'll get or trade for cheap blue chip prospects, then when they become special we'll flip or trade them for even more blue plate specials. LOL How'd that work out for all the other MLB teams? That Cubs dynasty lasted a long time didn't it? Houston's garbage can scandal lasted a long time didn't it? What other teams have won through the vaunted system of flipping assets and tanking?

Nowhere in my post did I say to take the guys we got a flip them when they are established MLB players. I only mentioned singing the players now and flipping them for pieces to help us compete when that window opens.

You mean the mythical window where they give us their top picks for our players that are making more money and have less control? Fantasy land if you think you can build a winner this way. It helps to get some young players no doubt, but if you don't spend money you might as well be a minor league club.

Never did I say this was going to be a massive success without an increase in payroll when the time is right.

We first needed the reset and to rebuild a farm system. We need that farm system to continue to develop. Once the young core is in place you can take some of the excess prospects for more experience talent and at that point also start spending on high end free agents.

If DeWitt is going to keep payroll down for the next four or five years this will be a failure, if he allows proper spending when the time is right than this should be extremely successful.

You mean the farm system that so terrible that the Springfield Cardinals won the championship?

I was referring to the entire system. There are multiple teams.

LOL..So the talent on the other minor league teams sucks but Springfield can win a championship. Sounds like you might not know what you're talking about there friend.

I never said it sucks currently. It was in terrible shape a couple years ago. They also fully admitted the whole system had to be overhauled which is what Bloom spent the last two years working on. It’s improving but still has a ton more needed.

What I did say in multiple posts is I have been watching a ton of minor league games at all three levels to watch some of the players who are getting closer as watching the future get close was fun.

Chaim Bloom started working for the St. Louis Cardinals in January 2024 as an advisor to the president of baseball operations.

The Springfield Cardinals won their Texas League Championship in 2012 and again in 2025.

You're telling me that Bloom had such a great impact that he made the Springfield team win a championship within a year? Or could it be that the minor league is in shambles rhetoric is just a smoke screen to tank the team. The whole Katie Woo article was a plant by management as cover to tank the team. I convinced it was all made up, and I'm not a conspiracy nut. I look at all the parts and it's easy to draw that conclusion.