Backesdraft wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026 18:18 pm
Seattle looking for an impact winger. Kyrou for Wright, straight up.
At this point Seattle would have to add at least a 2nd rounder to make the value come somewhat close to adding up.
No way…Wright was a first round pick and is a better player than Kyrou when comparing the time line of their careers. Wright while a bit moody is a really good player. He’s not a 3rd line player and when he played top 6 he produced. Seattle has all the leverage here.
ehhh just like with Lafrenierre the further away we get from his draft year the less important his draft position becomes.
At this point he isn't producing like a top 5 pick whereas Kyrou has for the vast majority of his career. Kyrou is under contract for 5 more years, Wright has one more season then is a RFA. The one difference being Wright is a center which does bring more value to the table.
If you were to remove the draft position, would you trade Kyrou straight up for Wright or feel you have to add? I wouldn't. I'm trading the better player with cost certainty.
I do the trade today and I believe the Blues make that trade as well. This is the kind of trade the Blues are in position to make at this moment in time. We get a young center with a load of potential who has proven he can play when given the opportunity. The ship has sailed on Kyrou and this organization. He’s not really even engaged anymore and appears to be a shell of his former self.
oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I wouldn't do the trade, I was just stating at worst it's a 1 for 1, but likely Seattle would have to add that's all.
I like Kyrou, a lot actually, but you aren't wrong. There is just something wrong and it very likely isn't going to get better and that will ruin his trade value.
the miracle wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 09:32 am
I'd have to think a Kyrou for Wright trade all but guarantees a Thomas trade; otherwise, why make it? Dvorsky-Thomas-Wright could be pretty solid down the middle, but I'd think one of those guys isn't going to want to be on the 3rd line.
I was actually considering whether Bill would want Thomas and Kyrou, and if the players would both want to go there. However, separate deals make more sense. Maybe send Thomas to PHI and rake in on the return. Detroit might be a player.
I mean what if we moved Kyrou for Wright, who becomes a legit #1C?
I agree with Pierre that now is the time to make this type of trade. I also think Wright is the type of personality we're missing. If I'm reading him right (oh no a pun), he will be ultra competitive to prove he's better than everyone else. He will also be angry and pouty like Buch when things go sour. But, will he look to the sky and shy away from contact? Idk.
The guy is 22 yrs old we make determinations on prospects WAAAY to soon in a lot of cases. Recall, Jiricek was written at barely 18 years old.
Not saying Shane Wright would come here and be an All Star center, he is right in line with his draft position still. If he could be a gritty two way 60 pt center for a decade Im all in
Harry S Deals wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 10:08 am
The guy is 22 yrs old we make determinations on prospects WAAAY to soon in a lot of cases. Recall, Jiricek was written at barely 18 years old.
Not saying Shane Wright would come here and be an All Star center, he is right in line with his draft position still. If he could be a gritty two way 60 pt center for a decade Im all in
Agree. Is he that type of player? Here on this video he wins a center ice draw, gets in position, forechecks aggressively to take the puck and immediately dish to a prime scoring opportunity. He owns Pius Suter later in the video. Extremely high skill with deceptive speed. Goes to all areas, specifically targeting the front of the net. Looks bigger than Thomas and has a better shot.
Here on this play, watch him make this great effort and skill play to keep the puck in and moving on the PP, then sneaks right in there unnoticed for the score, beating the goalie far side on a sweet little retrieval/shot move like it's nothing.
Scores on the rush a lot, sometimes starting the play deep in his own zone.
Zizzle1297 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 05:29 am
Seattle would definitely have to add
Seattle is not going to have to add. The entire league knows Army has been trying to move Kyrou. Wright may be stalled in his development but he’s still a #4 overall pick and he’s only 22, not mention that he’s a center. Blues would likely have to throw in at least 3rd rounder to get that deal done.
And Nail Yakupov was a #1 overall - how’d that turn out? A 22 year old who hasn’t broken out yet is most likely isn’t going to. We’ve been down this road before. Don’t let draft position sway your perception.
the miracle wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 09:32 am
I'd have to think a Kyrou for Wright trade all but guarantees a Thomas trade; otherwise, why make it? Dvorsky-Thomas-Wright could be pretty solid down the middle, but I'd think one of those guys isn't going to want to be on the 3rd line.
I was actually considering whether Bill would want Thomas and Kyrou, and if the players would both want to go there. However, separate deals make more sense. Maybe send Thomas to PHI and rake in on the return. Detroit might be a player.
I mean what if we moved Kyrou for Wright, who becomes a legit #1C?
I agree with Pierre that now is the time to make this type of trade. I also think Wright is the type of personality we're missing. If I'm reading him right (oh no a pun), he will be ultra competitive to prove he's better than everyone else. He will also be angry and pouty like Buch when things go sour. But, will he look to the sky and shy away from contact? Idk.
Seattle has something like 11m in cap space, so them taking both Thomas and Kyrou is more realistic than I would have thought originally. While I normally roll my eyes at the posts that say "bring this guy back!" or "he's from St. Louis, bring him home!", looking at their roster - Schwartz might make the most sense in order to make the dollars work. He's making 5 million and is in the last year of his contract.
the miracle wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 09:32 am
I'd have to think a Kyrou for Wright trade all but guarantees a Thomas trade; otherwise, why make it? Dvorsky-Thomas-Wright could be pretty solid down the middle, but I'd think one of those guys isn't going to want to be on the 3rd line.
I was actually considering whether Bill would want Thomas and Kyrou, and if the players would both want to go there. However, separate deals make more sense. Maybe send Thomas to PHI and rake in on the return. Detroit might be a player.
I mean what if we moved Kyrou for Wright, who becomes a legit #1C?
I agree with Pierre that now is the time to make this type of trade. I also think Wright is the type of personality we're missing. If I'm reading him right (oh no a pun), he will be ultra competitive to prove he's better than everyone else. He will also be angry and pouty like Buch when things go sour. But, will he look to the sky and shy away from contact? Idk.
Seattle has something like 11m in cap space, so them taking both Thomas and Kyrou is more realistic than I would have thought originally. While I normally roll my eyes at the posts that say "bring this guy back!" or "he's from St. Louis, bring him home!", looking at their roster - Schwartz might make the most sense in order to make the dollars work. He's making 5 million and is in the last year of his contract.
I agree 100% and would love to get Schwartz back. I was even thinking Dunn, but trying to be realistic.
Zizzle1297 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 05:29 am
Seattle would definitely have to add
Seattle is not going to have to add. The entire league knows Army has been trying to move Kyrou. Wright may be stalled in his development but he’s still a #4 overall pick and he’s only 22, not mention that he’s a center. Blues would likely have to throw in at least 3rd rounder to get that deal done.
And Nail Yakupov was a #1 overall - how’d that turn out? A 22 year old who hasn’t broken out yet is most likely isn’t going to. We’ve been down this road before. Don’t let draft position sway your perception.
Are you sure guys dont routinely get better after 22 yrs old? Strohm was taken 3rd overall didnt break 60+ points till he left Chicago at 25. The draft is full of guys who get better and better in the early to mid 20s almost every single draft year
He's the type of player they'll need to take a chance on if they're looking to reboot this core, including moving on from Thomas.
I think it makes perfect sense to deal a package that includes Kyrou for Wright and then turn around and try to move Thomas at the deadline or the offseason. Obviously you'll need to go out and find a veteran top 6 center that can bridge the time between Dvorsky, Wright and any other C prospect or draft pick, but you'll have the cap and there will be plenty of options that will be good enough to help the team "survive" for a year or two until that next window truly opens.
Seattle has Jake O'Brien and Berkley Catton who they are looking at to be the new blood which is one reason Wright may be available
On defense there's Lukas Dragicevic. I got a feel for him last year with Prince Albert/Mrsic, Dragicevic is the kind of player when it's 3-3 late he wants the game on his stick. Caden Price is also their prospect.
Zizzle1297 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 05:29 am
Seattle would definitely have to add
Seattle is not going to have to add. The entire league knows Army has been trying to move Kyrou. Wright may be stalled in his development but he’s still a #4 overall pick and he’s only 22, not mention that he’s a center. Blues would likely have to throw in at least 3rd rounder to get that deal done.
And Nail Yakupov was a #1 overall - how’d that turn out? A 22 year old who hasn’t broken out yet is most likely isn’t going to. We’ve been down this road before. Don’t let draft position sway your perception.
The Average Gatsby wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026 18:49 pm
Makes sense to target a young center if we’re going to trade Kyrou. Apparently the blues were talking to Seattle about Kyrou for the 8th overall pick at the draft so they might have interest also.
Yeah this was brought up at the end of last season. I was hoping we could send them Kyrou before his NTC kicked in for a top pick, and someone mentioned Wright.
I don't know much about him other than he was a top prospect/pick, plays center, and is for some reason available at 22.
With Bill in charge over there, everything is known. He either wants Kyrou or doesn't. Didn't he draft him?
He’s available because he’s a huge dick and a clubhouse cancer. When you trade for Shane Wright, you get a guy who could be game breaking AND you trade for his massive ego
I see. This prompted me to look around, and now know about the MTL staredown at the draft
What about Thomas and Kyrou for Wright, Schwartz, and Dunn? We'll take the attitude, they can have two top-6 forwards in their prime on good deals
Jeff Marek believes the value and market for Kyrou is still pretty high around the league. Discussions went to two other potential Kyrou trades:
1. Washington - package could include the St. Louis kid Cole Hutson (defenseman)
2. Buffalo - package could include one of Byram or Power
Kyrou's evidently good friends with Tage Thompson making the NTC a possibility. If that's the case, I would love a Kyrou for Power trade and finally find our next Bouwmeester.
Hutson's intriguing but he's a small defenseman - which I don't prefer - and probably has some time before he hits the NHL.
I've never been a fan of Byram, same size concerns and just isn't the type of defenseman that's gelled well in this organization.
Do we need Shane Wright?
If we keep Thomas and Dvorsky--where would he fit?
If we lose KYROU--Who does the scoring?
Is Shane Wright going to be as good as Thomas? Thomas is a bigger guy. Proven.
We have major questions on the wing. Holloway, Snuggerud, Buchnevich, Kyrou, Neighbours have failed to score like they did in the past. Is this going to continue?
Maybe we need to shake it up on the wings and stick with Thomas and Dvorsky as our 1-2??
BluesDom wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 12:46 pm
Do we need Shane Wright?
If we keep Thomas and Dvorsky--where would he fit?
If we lose KYROU--Who does the scoring?
Is Shane Wright going to be as good as Thomas? Thomas is a bigger guy. Proven.
We have major questions on the wing. Holloway, Snuggerud, Buchnevich, Kyrou, Neighbours have failed to score like they did in the past. Is this going to continue?
Maybe we need to shake it up on the wings and stick with Thomas and Dvorsky as our 1-2??
Thoughts?
If you're keeping Thomas, you're moving Kyrou for a defenseman.
If the plan is to recycle this core (trading Thomas), then I think it makes sense to trade Kyrou for a young prospective center with upside and then hope you can scrap your way through the next year or two with veteran centers until you acquire and/or develop your next #1.
