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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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netboy65 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 14:34 pm
ManitobaBlues wrote: 01 Jan 2026 12:08 pm
netboy65 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 10:11 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 01 Jan 2026 07:06 am
Bacchk29 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:15 am So this is Kyrou’s fault? Looks like a systemic failure of the organization to me.
Kyrou coasts around and does nothing with the elite speed and skill he has. Hopefully he watched MacKinnon and how intense Mac plays
How can he use his elite speed if he constantly has to wait for his linemates to catch up?
That’s a brutal take, Netboy. Do you ever watch MacKinnon? Guy blows through the neutral zone like a rocket, hits the offensive blue line, and doesn’t just circle around like he’s waiting for clearance to land. He goes, the forwards follow, and the D jumps in behind him. That’s how elite players drive offense — forwards follow, D jumps in, pressure stays on. This isn’t complicated stuff..

C’mon now — at least learn a little hockey before throwing that out there, for godsakes, eh.
So it’s just a coincidence then that his best recent stretch was when he was with Holloway who is at least close to matching his speed?
Part of it is coaching philosophy as well.
Holloway made Kyrou work..what I am saying Kyrou can take his speed into the o zone, but Kyrou is Kyrou.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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ManitobaBlues wrote: 02 Jan 2026 15:24 pm
netboy65 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 14:34 pm
ManitobaBlues wrote: 01 Jan 2026 12:08 pm
netboy65 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 10:11 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 01 Jan 2026 07:06 am
Bacchk29 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:15 am So this is Kyrou’s fault? Looks like a systemic failure of the organization to me.
Kyrou coasts around and does nothing with the elite speed and skill he has. Hopefully he watched MacKinnon and how intense Mac plays
How can he use his elite speed if he constantly has to wait for his linemates to catch up?
That’s a brutal take, Netboy. Do you ever watch MacKinnon? Guy blows through the neutral zone like a rocket, hits the offensive blue line, and doesn’t just circle around like he’s waiting for clearance to land. He goes, the forwards follow, and the D jumps in behind him. That’s how elite players drive offense — forwards follow, D jumps in, pressure stays on. This isn’t complicated stuff..

C’mon now — at least learn a little hockey before throwing that out there, for godsakes, eh.
So it’s just a coincidence then that his best recent stretch was when he was with Holloway who is at least close to matching his speed?
Part of it is coaching philosophy as well.
Holloway made Kyrou work..what I am saying Kyrou can take his speed into the o zone, but Kyrou is Kyrou.
Not many people are MacKinnon either. I’ll be the first to admit Kyrou isn’t.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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netboy65 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 15:57 pm
ManitobaBlues wrote: 02 Jan 2026 15:24 pm
netboy65 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 14:34 pm
ManitobaBlues wrote: 01 Jan 2026 12:08 pm
netboy65 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 10:11 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 01 Jan 2026 07:06 am
Bacchk29 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:15 am So this is Kyrou’s fault? Looks like a systemic failure of the organization to me.
Kyrou coasts around and does nothing with the elite speed and skill he has. Hopefully he watched MacKinnon and how intense Mac plays
How can he use his elite speed if he constantly has to wait for his linemates to catch up?
That’s a brutal take, Netboy. Do you ever watch MacKinnon? Guy blows through the neutral zone like a rocket, hits the offensive blue line, and doesn’t just circle around like he’s waiting for clearance to land. He goes, the forwards follow, and the D jumps in behind him. That’s how elite players drive offense — forwards follow, D jumps in, pressure stays on. This isn’t complicated stuff..

C’mon now — at least learn a little hockey before throwing that out there, for godsakes, eh.
So it’s just a coincidence then that his best recent stretch was when he was with Holloway who is at least close to matching his speed?
Part of it is coaching philosophy as well.
Holloway made Kyrou work..what I am saying Kyrou can take his speed into the o zone, but Kyrou is Kyrou.
Not many people are MacKinnon either. I’ll be the first to admit Kyrou isn’t.
Kyrou can use his speed they way Mackinnon can.... :D :D
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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ManitobaBlues wrote: 02 Jan 2026 15:24 pm
netboy65 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 14:34 pm
ManitobaBlues wrote: 01 Jan 2026 12:08 pm
netboy65 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 10:11 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 01 Jan 2026 07:06 am
Bacchk29 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:15 am So this is Kyrou’s fault? Looks like a systemic failure of the organization to me.
Kyrou coasts around and does nothing with the elite speed and skill he has. Hopefully he watched MacKinnon and how intense Mac plays
How can he use his elite speed if he constantly has to wait for his linemates to catch up?
That’s a brutal take, Netboy. Do you ever watch MacKinnon? Guy blows through the neutral zone like a rocket, hits the offensive blue line, and doesn’t just circle around like he’s waiting for clearance to land. He goes, the forwards follow, and the D jumps in behind him. That’s how elite players drive offense — forwards follow, D jumps in, pressure stays on. This isn’t complicated stuff..

C’mon now — at least learn a little hockey before throwing that out there, for godsakes, eh.
So it’s just a coincidence then that his best recent stretch was when he was with Holloway who is at least close to matching his speed?
Part of it is coaching philosophy as well.
Holloway made Kyrou work..what I am saying Kyrou can take his speed into the o zone, but Kyrou is Kyrou.
(This is NOT a dig on Holloway, just contesting that "Holloway made Kyrou work." Schenn had nothing to do with either? Just asking for a friend.)

Kyrou's best seasons in goals and points were pre-Holloway, yet Holloway's best numbers by far were last year.

Stats this year eerily similar:
Kyrou: 31GP, 8G, 9A, 17PTS, -10
Holloway: 33GP, 8G, 9A, 17PTS, -11

This year, to me, the stats illustrate the Blues, not necessarily the players.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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ManitobaBlues wrote: 02 Jan 2026 16:23 pm
netboy65 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 15:57 pm
ManitobaBlues wrote: 02 Jan 2026 15:24 pm
netboy65 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 14:34 pm
ManitobaBlues wrote: 01 Jan 2026 12:08 pm
netboy65 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 10:11 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 01 Jan 2026 07:06 am
Bacchk29 wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:15 am So this is Kyrou’s fault? Looks like a systemic failure of the organization to me.
Kyrou coasts around and does nothing with the elite speed and skill he has. Hopefully he watched MacKinnon and how intense Mac plays
How can he use his elite speed if he constantly has to wait for his linemates to catch up?
That’s a brutal take, Netboy. Do you ever watch MacKinnon? Guy blows through the neutral zone like a rocket, hits the offensive blue line, and doesn’t just circle around like he’s waiting for clearance to land. He goes, the forwards follow, and the D jumps in behind him. That’s how elite players drive offense — forwards follow, D jumps in, pressure stays on. This isn’t complicated stuff..

C’mon now — at least learn a little hockey before throwing that out there, for godsakes, eh.
So it’s just a coincidence then that his best recent stretch was when he was with Holloway who is at least close to matching his speed?
Part of it is coaching philosophy as well.
Holloway made Kyrou work..what I am saying Kyrou can take his speed into the o zone, but Kyrou is Kyrou.
Not many people are MacKinnon either. I’ll be the first to admit Kyrou isn’t.
Kyrou can use his speed they way Mackinnon can.... :D :D
But he cannot handle the puck, cannot protect the puck...average at that at best if I'm being to harsh. He cannot think as fast as he can skate.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 03 Jan 2026 10:34 am
bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..
... and when Kyrou isn't scoring, I honestly can't name 1 thing he does well.

Is he strong on the boards? Does he win board battles? No
Strong possession play? No
Great passer / set up guy? Not particularly.
Can he / will he take a hit to make a play? No.
Strong and consistent 2 way effort night in and night out? No
Quarterback a power play? No (They've tried and tried to make him the QB, but opposing teams know they only have to pressure him.)

He can score when he was time. He can create when he has space - but doesn't fight to gain or to create space. He has speed but doesn't use it consistently.

Some will think I'm being a bit harsh, so please enlighten me. Let me know where I am wrong in my observations.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
Yup, Buch made that goal happen.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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Wayyyy to go Buch!!!! 8 mil for making a play against a team that has won 1 game in their past 8.

Other teams are scouting him
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 03 Jan 2026 10:34 am
bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..
They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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netboy65 wrote: 03 Jan 2026 13:34 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 03 Jan 2026 10:34 am
bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..
They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.
Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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Jeff Goldblum wrote: 04 Jan 2026 04:33 am
netboy65 wrote: 03 Jan 2026 13:34 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 03 Jan 2026 10:34 am
bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..
They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.
Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.
He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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netboy65 wrote: 04 Jan 2026 08:30 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 04 Jan 2026 04:33 am
netboy65 wrote: 03 Jan 2026 13:34 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 03 Jan 2026 10:34 am
bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..
They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.
Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.
He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.
Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.
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Re: Kyrou can’t be happy

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Jeff Goldblum wrote: 04 Jan 2026 11:46 am
netboy65 wrote: 04 Jan 2026 08:30 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 04 Jan 2026 04:33 am
netboy65 wrote: 03 Jan 2026 13:34 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 03 Jan 2026 10:34 am
bud white wrote: 03 Jan 2026 09:39 am
82birds wrote: 02 Jan 2026 23:14 pm
sdaltons wrote: 01 Jan 2026 01:01 am
Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

:lol:
The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...
+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..
They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.
Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.
He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.
Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.
Yeah but Buch believes himself and wants to be a top line RW scorer. He wants someone like Neighbours to be the grinder on his line. This is according to what he said on an interview/podcast. I think he's paid his dues, so maybe it's time to go back to Neighbours-Thomas-Buch while we ease Holloway back into the lineup. Berggren and Fabbri could also slot in there. Or Stenberg! 8)
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