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Re: Maybe another team needed to break a Mariners/Cardinals apparent logjam on Donovan deal.
Posted: 30 Dec 2025 12:40 pm
by riff raff
ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 12:35 pm
riff raff wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 12:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 12:08 pm
riff raff wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 11:23 am
Maybe Bloom only trades Donovan if he can't find a trade partner for Arenado.
You might be disappointed
Why would I be disappointed?
NA and BD trades are independent of each other
maybe, maybe not
Re: Maybe another team needed to break a Mariners/Cardinals apparent logjam on Donovan deal.
Posted: 30 Dec 2025 15:43 pm
by Cardinals4Life
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 09:03 am
craviduce wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:58 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:37 am
Hoosier59 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:36 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:29 am
Is a Hurdy Gurdy trade a blockbuster?
For the Cardinals he is. Especially if Romero and possible minor league players are added to the deal.
But we get your point!
Why not one of our
prized catchers. We only have 5 ish.
we have 2. Jury is out on Rainiel. As improved as he was last year, his bar was very, very low entering 2025. He has a ways to go before he gets into the conversation with Bernal and Crooks defensively. And he doesn't have to, his bat is what will play.
Pages, Pozo, and Herrera aren't prized catchers. Pages is the best of that bunch. The pitching staff is highly comfortable with him. You need your other positions to pick up the slack offensively
Only in our minds do we have a plethora of prized catchers. LHP...yes, there are too many in our system....that's your current and future trade pieces.
Nice write. Ok. We have two prized. Remove Herrera as he goes to left or DH. So we have two, pozo, and raniel.
Wouldn’t one of the two with Donovan push the needle whatsoever. If not- Crooks or Pages will.
Bdog,
I think Duce is saying Crooks and Bernal are the prizes. (Rainiel is still a ? behind the plate.) Pozo is depth at AAA in case of injury and Bernal not being ready. No shot we trade Rainiel. No way. I think the only 2 possible trade pieces are Crooks and Pages, and even thst seems slim.
Re: Maybe another team needed to break a Mariners/Cardinals apparent logjam on Donovan deal.
Posted: 30 Dec 2025 16:49 pm
by craviduce
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 15:43 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 09:03 am
craviduce wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:58 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:37 am
Hoosier59 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:36 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 08:29 am
Is a Hurdy Gurdy trade a blockbuster?
For the Cardinals he is. Especially if Romero and possible minor league players are added to the deal.
But we get your point!
Why not one of our
prized catchers. We only have 5 ish.
we have 2. Jury is out on Rainiel. As improved as he was last year, his bar was very, very low entering 2025. He has a ways to go before he gets into the conversation with Bernal and Crooks defensively. And he doesn't have to, his bat is what will play.
Pages, Pozo, and Herrera aren't prized catchers. Pages is the best of that bunch. The pitching staff is highly comfortable with him. You need your other positions to pick up the slack offensively
Only in our minds do we have a plethora of prized catchers. LHP...yes, there are too many in our system....that's your current and future trade pieces.
Nice write. Ok. We have two prized. Remove Herrera as he goes to left or DH. So we have two, pozo, and raniel.
Wouldn’t one of the two with Donovan push the needle whatsoever. If not- Crooks or Pages will.
Bdog,
I think Duce is saying Crooks and Bernal are the prizes. (Rainiel is still a ? behind the plate.) Pozo is depth at AAA in case of injury and Bernal not being ready. No shot we trade Rainiel. No way. I think the only 2 possible trade pieces are Crooks and Pages, and even thst seems slim.
my typing and conversations in my head can get confusing. Thanks for helping me clear that up.
And, yes, Cards4life, those were the two I considered as the prizes. I think they're staggered on their development by at least a year. 2-3 years on Rainiel...who personally think will be a 3B/2B/LF when all things are said and done.