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Web, respect that everyone has right to their opinion. Mine is that MO had no idea what contending really means much less building a contender. Bloom has rebuilt the foundation for that first and foremost with investments in minor league coaching, talent evaluations and development programs etc and has tackled the most difficult first in restocking the pithing prosepect pool. As another post by Rock states that the Cardinals have arguably increased their farm development and standings by a considerable marginWeb7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.
+1Looksgoodonyouthough wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:01 pmWeb, respect that everyone has right to their opinion. Mine is that MO had no idea what contending really means much less building a contender. Bloom has rebuilt the foundation for that first and foremost with investments in minor league coaching, talent evaluations and development programs etc and has tackled the most difficult first in restocking the pithing prosepect pool. As another post by Rock states that the Cardinals have arguably increased their farm development and standings by a considerable marginWeb7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.
Plenty of time for additions and subtractions to be made in the position aspect. All in all, a healthy and positive start to rebuilding contending Cardinal baseball. I for one ( FWITW ) am very excited for our progress with more to come in restoring our pride.
+2Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:14 pm+1Looksgoodonyouthough wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:01 pmWeb, respect that everyone has right to their opinion. Mine is that MO had no idea what contending really means much less building a contender. Bloom has rebuilt the foundation for that first and foremost with investments in minor league coaching, talent evaluations and development programs etc and has tackled the most difficult first in restocking the pithing prosepect pool. As another post by Rock states that the Cardinals have arguably increased their farm development and standings by a considerable marginWeb7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.
Plenty of time for additions and subtractions to be made in the position aspect. All in all, a healthy and positive start to rebuilding contending Cardinal baseball. I for one ( FWITW ) am very excited for our progress with more to come in restoring our pride.
Trust me I hope you are correct….Im sick of watching awful baseball…. I honestly just have not seen enough to call this a rebuild… Sadly, it looks a lot more like a salary dump.Looksgoodonyouthough wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:01 pmWeb, respect that everyone has right to their opinion. Mine is that MO had no idea what contending really means much less building a contender. Bloom has rebuilt the foundation for that first and foremost with investments in minor league coaching, talent evaluations and development programs etc and has tackled the most difficult first in restocking the pithing prosepect pool. As another post by Rock states that the Cardinals have arguably increased their farm development and standings by a considerable marginWeb7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.
Plenty of time for additions and subtractions to be made in the position aspect. All in all, a healthy and positive start to rebuilding contending Cardinal baseball. I for one ( FWITW ) am very excited for our progress with more to come in restoring our pride.
If it were a salary dump, why would the team send money in the trades to get players back? It's just cover for their nefarious plan?Web7 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:28 pmTrust me I hope you are correct….Im sick of watching awful baseball…. I honestly just have not seen enough to call this a rebuild… Sadly, it looks a lot more like a salary dump.Looksgoodonyouthough wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:01 pmWeb, respect that everyone has right to their opinion. Mine is that MO had no idea what contending really means much less building a contender. Bloom has rebuilt the foundation for that first and foremost with investments in minor league coaching, talent evaluations and development programs etc and has tackled the most difficult first in restocking the pithing prosepect pool. As another post by Rock states that the Cardinals have arguably increased their farm development and standings by a considerable marginWeb7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.
Plenty of time for additions and subtractions to be made in the position aspect. All in all, a healthy and positive start to rebuilding contending Cardinal baseball. I for one ( FWITW ) am very excited for our progress with more to come in restoring our pride.
Yeah that's probably not going to happen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
doesn't the kid from the M's system have like a ~40% k rate in the mid minors? can't remember the namerockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
Yes, Lazaro Montes. Hit .240-ish at AA with a K rate like you describe. He does get XBH's though. LHHmoose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:45 pmdoesn't the kid from the M's system have like a ~40% k rate in the mid minors? can't remember the namerockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
imo, doesn't sound like a 'get' to me
Not a good runner, not a good fielder, not good bat-to-ball skills. If he doesn't hit for power he has very low value. Sound familiar?Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 13:10 pmYes, Lazaro Montes. Hit .240-ish at AA with a K rate like you describe. He does get XBH's though. LHHmoose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:45 pmdoesn't the kid from the M's system have like a ~40% k rate in the mid minors? can't remember the namerockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
imo, doesn't sound like a 'get' to me
He also is a walk machineTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 13:10 pmYes, Lazaro Montes. Hit .240-ish at AA with a K rate like you describe. He does get XBH's though. LHHmoose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:45 pmdoesn't the kid from the M's system have like a ~40% k rate in the mid minors? can't remember the namerockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
imo, doesn't sound like a 'get' to me
exactly - this is the show me state after all. Bring in some players who have proven something or at least projects at a very high probability rate like JJW, (or Kurtz types etc). The rest of the org is hopefuls at best.
I think they'll get way better than a "project" 11WS.11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:39 pmYeah that's probably not going to happen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
A project with high upside perhaps but a high prospect who,'s
Likely to break into a ML roster this season doubtful.
High Risk/But High Reward?moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:45 pmdoesn't the kid from the M's system have like a ~40% k rate in the mid minors? can't remember the namerockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
imo, doesn't sound like a 'get' to me
If so, that would be fairly new news. Rumors on this site back at the winter meetings were strong that Donny would be traded for even more pitching.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 13:32 pmIf so, that would be fairly new news. Rumors on this site back at the winter meetings were strong that Donny would be traded for even more pitching.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 10:57 am Rumors are pretty strong C. Bloom is holding out for a righthanded, power hitting OF prospect for Donny (re: M's).
Likely why it's taking a bit longer to deal him but he should be in no hurry.