Cusecards wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:48 am
Burleson is the best fit right now and “average” is not the end of the world.
I’ll take average until someone better comes along.
Trust me....Burleson at 1B is far from our biggest issue!
Another Classic Webby Thread.
BAZAR!
Donovan 3B, Winn SS Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B would be more than adequate for the infield. Bloom needs to upgrade at least one position in the outfield with some power. Problem is, Bloom may have to trade Donovan to get that.
Agree
The OF is the issue.
Although both Donovan and Herrera could wind up out there and IF they can handle it defensively their bats should be productive!
Is Robert too expensive and injury prone to take a chance on in the outfield? If healthy, he could really help the outfield situation.
Based on what I know I would not be interested in Robert.
Trading for Robert would be the dumbest thing the cardinals could possibly do. the only reason why they should want Robert is if they think noot will be lonely on the IL. For years people have been saying trade for Robert trade for Robert and every year he’s injured and sucks hard pass on a guy who makes O’Neil look like the iron man cal Ripken jr
Robert had ONE great season(2023) and like you said he’s been a combination of so-so/injured the rest of the time.
Pass!
Cusecards wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:48 am
Burleson is the best fit right now and “average” is not the end of the world.
I’ll take average until someone better comes along.
Trust me....Burleson at 1B is far from our biggest issue!
Another Classic Webby Thread.
BAZAR!
Donovan 3B, Winn SS Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B would be more than adequate for the infield. Bloom needs to upgrade at least one position in the outfield with some power. Problem is, Bloom may have to trade Donovan to get that.
Agree
The OF is the issue.
Although both Donovan and Herrera could wind up out there and IF they can handle it defensively their bats should be productive!
Is Robert too expensive and injury prone to take a chance on in the outfield? If healthy, he could really help the outfield situation.
Based on what I know I would not be interested in Robert.
Trading for Robert would be the dumbest thing the cardinals could possibly do. the only reason why they should want Robert is if they think noot will be lonely on the IL. For years people have been saying trade for Robert trade for Robert and every year he’s injured and sucks hard pass on a guy who makes O’Neil look like the iron man cal Ripken jr
Robert had ONE great season(2023) and like you said he’s been a combination of so-so/injured the rest of the time.
Pass!
If the White Sox would take Nootbaar for Robert and send 5 million for the next two seasons, with Cardinals need for outfield power production, it might be worth the chance.
Last edited by Shady on 26 Dec 2025 12:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Cusecards wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:48 am
Burleson is the best fit right now and “average” is not the end of the world.
I’ll take average until someone better comes along.
Trust me....Burleson at 1B is far from our biggest issue!
Another Classic Webby Thread.
BAZAR!
Donovan 3B, Winn SS Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B would be more than adequate for the infield. Bloom needs to upgrade at least one position in the outfield with some power. Problem is, Bloom may have to trade Donovan to get that.
Agree
The OF is the issue.
Although both Donovan and Herrera could wind up out there and IF they can handle it defensively their bats should be productive!
Is Robert too expensive and injury prone to take a chance on in the outfield? If healthy, he could really help the outfield situation.
Based on what I know I would not be interested in Robert.
Trading for Robert would be the dumbest thing the cardinals could possibly do. the only reason why they should want Robert is if they think noot will be lonely on the IL. For years people have been saying trade for Robert trade for Robert and every year he’s injured and sucks hard pass on a guy who makes O’Neil look like the iron man cal Ripken jr
Robert had ONE great season(2023) and like you said he’s been a combination of so-so/injured the rest of the time.
Pass!
If the White Sox would take Nootbaar for Robert and send 5 million for the next two seasons, with Cardinals need for outfield power production, it might be worth the chance.
I’d still pass!
You’re moving one injury-prone player for another.
Shady wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:46 am
Let's see how Burleson performs next season. He should be coming into his prime.
A star of his magnitude, just coming into his own should be in the bright lights of New York. Prime Time Burly.
Yes, it truly would be a shame if “the next Joey Votto” wound up being as underappreciated as the original Joey Votto.
Yes it would..lol....he's not even half of what prime Joey Votto was...
How does Burleson's salary compare to what Votto was making? hint, hint, Burleson was and is a bargain and the Cardinals know that.
His age 26 season Burleson had 1.8 war.....votto had 7 at age 26....Burleson is a fine player and should improve a little more....but I don't think he will turn out to be a 6 time all star with 63 war....will he be half of that ?
I agree w/the OP, his HR & RBI totals are mediocre for a 1st Baseman.
Unless he can muscle up and hit 20+ HR's and drive in 80-85 runs, then he's not the L-T answer at 1st base where you need a strong run producer (ditto for 3rd base and eventually our corner OF).
"Unless he can muscle up and hit 20+ HR's and drive in 80-85 runs". That would be nice accompanied by a .280+ BA. All achievable. With the Contreras departure. Right now, Burleson will likely be at #3 or #5 in the lineup. Herrera will likely be at cleanup.
Shady wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:46 am
Let's see how Burleson performs next season. He should be coming into his prime.
A star of his magnitude, just coming into his own should be in the bright lights of New York. Prime Time Burly.
Yes, it truly would be a shame if “the next Joey Votto” wound up being as underappreciated as the original Joey Votto.
Yes it would..lol....he's not even half of what prime Joey Votto was...
How does Burleson's salary compare to what Votto was making? hint, hint, Burleson was and is a bargain and the Cardinals know that.
His age 26 season Burleson had 1.8 war.....votto had 7 at age 26....Burleson is a fine player and should improve a little more....but I don't think he will turn out to be a 6 time all star with 63 war....will he be half of that ?
Web7 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:26 am
The Cards and the media are selling this like it’s a great thing lol….. look around the league at production at first base…… This offense needs an upgrade so bad
Is achieving the major league "average" at any position a bad thing? Look at the production around the league for first baseman. If Burly matches the "average" production, that is a huge win. 45 HR guys dont grow on trees, and are not made available . If they get "average" out of Burley, they've got their answer at first.
Web7 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:26 am
The Cards and the media are selling this like it’s a great thing lol….. look around the league at production at first base…… This offense needs an upgrade so bad
Is achieving the major league "average" at any position a bad thing? Look at the production around the league for first baseman. If Burly matches the "average" production, that is a huge win. 45 HR guys dont grow on trees, and are not made available . If they get "average" out of Burley, they've got their answer at first.
Burleson will be fine at 1B. He'll likely make these nitpickers squirm for additional ways to critique him. I really don't need to defend him on CT anymore. Just let Burly's bat do the talking.
Last edited by Shady on 26 Dec 2025 13:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Web7 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:26 am
The Cards and the media are selling this like it’s a great thing lol….. look around the league at production at first base…… This offense needs an upgrade so bad
Is achieving the major league "average" at any position a bad thing? Look at the production around the league for first baseman. If Burly matches the "average" production, that is a huge win. 45 HR guys dont grow on trees, and are not made available . If they get "average" out of Burley, they've got their answer at first.
Burleson will be fine at 1B. He'll likely make these nitpickers squirm for additional ways to critique him. I really don't need to defend him on CT any more. Just let Burly's bat do the talking.
excellent, do not defend him anymore, and no more threads. win, win correct? you don't have to defend him and us nitpickers don't have to wade through all the burly threads
