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Hofikebrucee wrote: ↑25 Dec 2025 21:32 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 18:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:51 pm No team needs Donovan more than STL does.
The CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION is to keep him at least until July and extend him before then if possible.
He needs to move to LF and act as depth insurance at 3b/2b/SS for at least the first 100 games in 2026.
STL should float Mootbaar, Walker, Romero, Bernal, Mathews, Hence, Saggese as trade pieces.
Put together a package from that group to acquire the RH outfield bat I alone have been correctly calling for each and every year over the past decade.
But, it seems Bloom is dead set on doing the wrong thing and appears on the verge of moving Donovan.
It will be his 2nd significant mistake.
That said, he has made some good moves so far and I cannot reasonably expect him or anyone to match my own record of performance in analyzing the best course of action.
Let's see what happens.

What level of RHH are you targeting? Matthews and Bernal have a lot of upside so we’d need a commensurate return. Andy Pages?

Also what was Blooms first mistake ? Oli?

You think Andy Pages would be a fair return for BD? No way they make that trade.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 01:43 am

Hofikebrucee wrote: ↑25 Dec 2025 21:32 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 18:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:51 pm No team needs Donovan more than STL does.
The CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION is to keep him at least until July and extend him before then if possible.
He needs to move to LF and act as depth insurance at 3b/2b/SS for at least the first 100 games in 2026.
STL should float Mootbaar, Walker, Romero, Bernal, Mathews, Hence, Saggese as trade pieces.
Put together a package from that group to acquire the RH outfield bat I alone have been correctly calling for each and every year over the past decade.
But, it seems Bloom is dead set on doing the wrong thing and appears on the verge of moving Donovan.
It will be his 2nd significant mistake.
That said, he has made some good moves so far and I cannot reasonably expect him or anyone to match my own record of performance in analyzing the best course of action.
Let's see what happens.

What level of RHH are you targeting? Matthews and Bernal have a lot of upside so we’d need a commensurate return. Andy Pages?

Also what was Blooms first mistake ? Oli?

You think Andy Pages would be a fair return for BD? No way they make that trade.

We were talking about Pages for prospects. And maybe keeping Donny

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Dec 2025 23:12 pm
But, wouldn’t any of our starters improve any team in baseball? If all of our starting position players would not improve any team, this team is really in need of a rebuild.

AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 07:37 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Dec 2025 23:12 pm
But, wouldn’t any of our starters improve any team in baseball? If all of our starting position players would not improve any team, this team is really in need of a rebuild.

No. Many of our starters would not improve many teams. Realistically there are only 3 guys who played a significant role last year that would improve every other team.

Winn
Herrera
Maybe Burleson

Most of the others might start for some other teams but not every team would be improved with their addition.

Donovan would improve ANY team. His performance and position flexibility combined with his reasonable cost make him desirable for every other team in the game.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

But his trade value, given the acquirer would have him the full two season, is at it's highest right now BDog.

I've been saying I think he's dealt before NY Eve, perhaps coupled w/JoJo and bringing back a young, powerhitting OF'er!

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:05 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

But his trade value, given the acquirer would have him the full two season, is at it's highest right now BDog.

I've been saying I think he's dealt before NY Eve, perhaps coupled w/JoJo and bringing back a young, powerhitting OF'er!

I looked through the pool of players and outfielders. Who or where is this player. Still a prospect.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:09 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:05 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

But his trade value, given the acquirer would have him the full two season, is at it's highest right now BDog.

I've been saying I think he's dealt before NY Eve, perhaps coupled w/JoJo and bringing back a young, powerhitting OF'er!

I looked through the pool of players and outfielders. Who or where is this player. Still a prospect.

Colt Emerson or Lazaro Montes/M's

Not sure of the odds but these are the guys Bloom, one or the other per reports, is holding out for.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:09 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:05 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

But his trade value, given the acquirer would have him the full two season, is at it's highest right now BDog.

I've been saying I think he's dealt before NY Eve, perhaps coupled w/JoJo and bringing back a young, powerhitting OF'er!

I looked through the pool of players and outfielders. Who or where is this player. Still a prospect.

Colt Emerson or Lazaro Montes/M's

Not sure of the odds but these are the guys Bloom, one or the other per reports, is holding out for.

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:24 am

AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 07:37 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Dec 2025 23:12 pm
But, wouldn’t any of our starters improve any team in baseball? If all of our starting position players would not improve any team, this team is really in need of a rebuild.

No. Many of our starters would not improve many teams. Realistically there are only 3 guys who played a significant role last year that would improve every other team.

Winn
Herrera
Maybe Burleson

Most of the others might start for some other teams but not every team would be improved with their addition.

Donovan would improve ANY team. His performance and position flexibility combined with his reasonable cost make him desirable for every other team in the game.

Some people think too highly of BD because he’s been one bright spot. A decent player.
If our starters can’t replace a bench player on every other team, the Cardinals should just shut down and be done with.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:11 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:09 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:05 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

But his trade value, given the acquirer would have him the full two season, is at it's highest right now BDog.

I've been saying I think he's dealt before NY Eve, perhaps coupled w/JoJo and bringing back a young, powerhitting OF'er!

I looked through the pool of players and outfielders. Who or where is this player. Still a prospect.

Colt Emerson or Lazaro Montes/M's

Not sure of the odds but these are the guys Bloom, one or the other per reports, is holding out for.

Ok. By name. That’s strong.

AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 10:11 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:09 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:05 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

But his trade value, given the acquirer would have him the full two season, is at it's highest right now BDog.

I've been saying I think he's dealt before NY Eve, perhaps coupled w/JoJo and bringing back a young, powerhitting OF'er!

I looked through the pool of players and outfielders. Who or where is this player. Still a prospect.

Colt Emerson or Lazaro Montes/M's

Not sure of the odds but these are the guys Bloom, one or the other per reports, is holding out for.

Would welcome those guys and would not say no because they hit L. But would prefer RHH.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 10:28 am

AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 10:11 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:09 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:05 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:55 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Dec 2025 08:51 am You actually laid out the EXACT reasons Donny is being pursued by over a dozen teams:

As good of an all around ball player BD is.

As solid of a hitter he is, as versatile of a fielder he is.

Despite being an all-star last year.

And I'll add:

-Two yrs of low cost control

-Leadership qualities

-Great teammate/Team Player

If he stays, we still make out. There is the deadline. There is never.

But his trade value, given the acquirer would have him the full two season, is at it's highest right now BDog.

I've been saying I think he's dealt before NY Eve, perhaps coupled w/JoJo and bringing back a young, powerhitting OF'er!

I looked through the pool of players and outfielders. Who or where is this player. Still a prospect.

Colt Emerson or Lazaro Montes/M's

Not sure of the odds but these are the guys Bloom, one or the other per reports, is holding out for.

Would welcome those guys and would not say no because they hit L. But would prefer RHH.

No doubt

We need any hitters Bloom can find, even if the preference is for RH'd ones.