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Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Do you think those players won't be traded?

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Do you think those players won't be traded?

I have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated process

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Do you think those players won't be traded?

I have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated process

It is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Do you think those players won't be traded?

I have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated process

It is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.

It’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm for

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:55 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Do you think those players won't be traded?

I have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated process

It is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.

It’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm for

It is complicated. If it wasn’t complicated every player every team is going to trade a player would have already traded them

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:48 am

Cusecards wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:40 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:29 am

Cusecards wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:48 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:40 am Derrick Goold
@dgoold

#Cardinals left winter meetings with a clearer view of what to chase as returns in trade, and this week sets up to make progress on talks

Rock.....they may have a clearer view but time is running out!
Barely a little over 3 months until Opening Day!
Aren’t you nervous?????

Cuse, do you think that Noot is more sought after than the “ON FIRE” Donovan?

As usual...you really should stop talking. But you won’t.
Have a nice day.
Go Cards
And back on the roof!

It’s very interesting that you don’t comment about the actual baseball TOPIC but always seem to hop on a thread to passive aggressively critique a poster? Is this some sort of therapy for you??

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:05 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:55 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Do you think those players won't be traded?

I have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated process

It is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.

It’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm for

It is complicated. If it wasn’t complicated every player every team is going to trade a player would have already traded them

If the ask is too much teams will move on…..I guarantee if Bloom had his price met ….donny would be gone. He may be at 2b in STL opening day

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:05 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:55 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Do you think those players won't be traded?

I have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated process

It is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.

It’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm for

It is complicated. If it wasn’t complicated every player every team is going to trade a player would have already traded them

If the ask is too much teams will move on…..I guarantee if Bloom had his price met ….donny would be gone. He may be at 2b in STL opening day

RunSup wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:19 am The Cardinals are in press-your-luck mode in waiting for an offer they like. They don't actually *have* to trade anybody. But a lot of smoke to wind up doing nothing. I'll wait til mid January to really wonder what happened.

In the mean time other teams are finding other solutions. Find your trade partner with a need,...

- Mets signed Polanco to play 1B. They also traded for Semien to play MI. They are likely out on Contreras and Donovan.
- Braves signed Kim. Likely not a suiter for Donovan.

Competing options for Donovan(LH) and Contreras (RH) bats
- The DBacks signed Merrill Kelley as SP. Would they really trade Marte right now?
- Tucker is still LH FA option for high budget teams
- Bregman is still RH 3B optio with good bat for the same teams.

CNYFan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:22 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:19 am The Cardinals are in press-your-luck mode in waiting for an offer they like. They don't actually *have* to trade anybody. But a lot of smoke to wind up doing nothing. I'll wait til mid January to really wonder what happened.

In the mean time other teams are finding other solutions. Find your trade partner with a need,...

- Mets signed Polanco to play 1B. They also traded for Semien to play MI. They are likely out on Contreras and Donovan.
- Braves signed Kim. Likely not a suiter for Donovan.

Competing options for Donovan(LH) and Contreras (RH) bats
- The DBacks signed Merrill Kelley as SP. Would they really trade Marte right now?
- Tucker is still LH FA option for high budget teams
- Bregman is still RH 3B optio with good bat for the same teams.

I agree with this perspective.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:24 pm I'll throw it out there


If CT didn't know it was Bloom on charge, they'd be [defecating] themselves

Remember??

slo mo

Cusecards wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:51 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:24 pm I'll throw it out there


If CT didn't know it was Bloom on charge, they'd be [defecating] themselves

Remember??

slo mo

Very fair point!
Of course time is getting SHORT for making moves!

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

Melville wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:07 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO

It's a long fuse and a slow burn.....