I have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated processTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 amDo you think those players won't be traded?Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
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Ozziesfan41
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
It is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 amI have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated processTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 amDo you think those players won't be traded?Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
It’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm forOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 amIt is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 amI have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated processTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 amDo you think those players won't be traded?Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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Ozziesfan41
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
It is complicated. If it wasn’t complicated every player every team is going to trade a player would have already traded themGoldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 amIt’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm forOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 amIt is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 amI have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated processTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 amDo you think those players won't be traded?Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
If the ask is too much teams will move on…..I guarantee if Bloom had his price met ….donny would be gone. He may be at 2b in STL opening dayOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:55 amIt is complicated. If it wasn’t complicated every player every team is going to trade a player would have already traded themGoldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 amIt’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm forOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 amIt is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 amI have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated processTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 amDo you think those players won't be traded?Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
That post is so hypocritical and screwed up that I won’t waste my time going into detail.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:48 amIt’s very interesting that you don’t comment about the actual baseball TOPIC but always seem to hop on a thread to passive aggressively critique a poster? Is this some sort of therapy for you??Cusecards wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:40 amAs usual...you really should stop talking. But you won’t.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:29 amCuse, do you think that Noot is more sought after than the “ON FIRE” Donovan?Cusecards wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:48 amRock.....they may have a clearer view but time is running out!rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:40 am Derrick Goold
@dgoold
#Cardinals left winter meetings with a clearer view of what to chase as returns in trade, and this week sets up to make progress on talks
Barely a little over 3 months until Opening Day!
Aren’t you nervous?????
Have a nice day.
Go Cards
And back on the roof!
Go Cards!
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
It’s the time of the season.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:05 pmIf the ask is too much teams will move on…..I guarantee if Bloom had his price met ….donny would be gone. He may be at 2b in STL opening dayOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:55 amIt is complicated. If it wasn’t complicated every player every team is going to trade a player would have already traded themGoldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 amIt’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm forOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 amIt is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 amI have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated processTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 amDo you think those players won't be traded?Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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A very stressful time for mothers and women, reference holidays family Xmas in laws travel, etc.
Last thing you wanna add is we’re moving.
I bet from January 5 till February 1, you’ll get your wishes.
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Ozziesfan41
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
He won’t be he probably won’t even be a cardinal at the end of the weekGoldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:05 pmIf the ask is too much teams will move on…..I guarantee if Bloom had his price met ….donny would be gone. He may be at 2b in STL opening dayOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:55 amIt is complicated. If it wasn’t complicated every player every team is going to trade a player would have already traded themGoldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:40 amIt’s not complicated….apparently 2 main teams in on Donny…either They’re going to Give what Bloom wants or not.. and remember this isn’t Roberto Alomar…Donovan is a good player but certainly not someone to give The farm forOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:35 amIt is a complicated process if it wasn’t every trade would have already been made by every team already and the offseason would be over except for free agent signings.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 11:25 amI have no idea. You can trade anyone….the return is the issue. Trades have occurred and FA have been signed in MLB. The much ballyhooed stable of Cards Bloom was dangling have yet to product a return outside of Gray. MLB network, Woo, Gould, ESPN all were hyping action from Bloom around the Winter Meeting. I don’t think pointing that out against the reality of NO ACTION is a “whining and crying” event. It’s reality. Again players have changed teams…….the Cards were supposed to have some of the most sought after players…..with Bloom in a trading mode. Each day that another players moves or signs is another option lost…..this isn’t a complicated processTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 10:56 amDo you think those players won't be traded?Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
I agree with this perspective.RunSup wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:19 am The Cardinals are in press-your-luck mode in waiting for an offer they like. They don't actually *have* to trade anybody. But a lot of smoke to wind up doing nothing. I'll wait til mid January to really wonder what happened.
In the mean time other teams are finding other solutions. Find your trade partner with a need,...
- Mets signed Polanco to play 1B. They also traded for Semien to play MI. They are likely out on Contreras and Donovan.
- Braves signed Kim. Likely not a suiter for Donovan.
Competing options for Donovan(LH) and Contreras (RH) bats
- The DBacks signed Merrill Kelley as SP. Would they really trade Marte right now?
- Tucker is still LH FA option for high budget teams
- Bregman is still RH 3B optio with good bat for the same teams.
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
I'll throw it out there
If CT didn't know it was Bloom on charge, they'd be [defecating] themselves
Remember??
slo mo
If CT didn't know it was Bloom on charge, they'd be [defecating] themselves
Remember??
slo mo
Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
Additional:CNYFan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:22 pmI agree with this perspective.RunSup wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:19 am The Cardinals are in press-your-luck mode in waiting for an offer they like. They don't actually *have* to trade anybody. But a lot of smoke to wind up doing nothing. I'll wait til mid January to really wonder what happened.
In the mean time other teams are finding other solutions. Find your trade partner with a need,...
- Mets signed Polanco to play 1B. They also traded for Semien to play MI. They are likely out on Contreras and Donovan.
- Braves signed Kim. Likely not a suiter for Donovan.
Competing options for Donovan(LH) and Contreras (RH) bats
- The DBacks signed Merrill Kelley as SP. Would they really trade Marte right now?
- Tucker is still LH FA option for high budget teams
- Bregman is still RH 3B optio with good bat for the same teams.
Munetaka Murakami, Japanese 1B/3B power bat is about to sign and may take another team out of the Contreras market.
0.000001% chance the Cardinals sign him and corner the Market on 1B/3B trade options
Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
Very fair point!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:24 pm I'll throw it out there
If CT didn't know it was Bloom on charge, they'd be [defecating] themselves
Remember??
slo mo
Of course time is getting SHORT for making moves!
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Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
Cusecards wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:51 pmVery fair point!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 12:24 pm I'll throw it out there
If CT didn't know it was Bloom on charge, they'd be [defecating] themselves
Remember??
slo mo
Of course time is getting SHORT for making moves!
Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
Its percolating.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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The teams that are NA's first choice, he isn't their 1st choice.
WC similar.
Noot coming off surgery and under .700 OPS might have
as much value as a #5 OFer with St. Louis as a trade. Kwan hasn't moved either.
Jo Jo, RPs are coming off the board. He has been an excellent LH RP for 3 seasons.
That is a product that even I could trade. Bloom can do that in his sleep anytime
he wants. He maximizing on this one, he can do it in ST if he wants.
Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
Under Mo, the Cardinals went out and did what little business they wanted to do, then took the rest of the year off.
At least Bloom isn’t rushing into anything. Hopefully we aren’t disappointed in the returns of any deals he ends up making.
Both of the Japanese players need their market resolved soon, or they’d just head back to Japan.
Bregman and his stupid agent are holding things up again also, along with the Diamondbacks throwing Marte into the mix. Which I can’t decide if they really want to trade him or not.
I still think Donovan and Contreras will be traded, and probably Arenado too, but some other players need to fall first.
At least Bloom isn’t rushing into anything. Hopefully we aren’t disappointed in the returns of any deals he ends up making.
Both of the Japanese players need their market resolved soon, or they’d just head back to Japan.
Bregman and his stupid agent are holding things up again also, along with the Diamondbacks throwing Marte into the mix. Which I can’t decide if they really want to trade him or not.
I still think Donovan and Contreras will be traded, and probably Arenado too, but some other players need to fall first.
Re: Dec 17 2025….Is Donny still on FIRE?
Yes, I learned that 60 plus years ago watching the Lone Ranger series. Always a long fuse !Melville wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 09:07 amIt's a long fuse and a slow burn.....Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025 08:24 am Wow, the barrage of articles and commentary leading up to the winter meetings had half the starting lineup heading to greener pastures
AND………nothing
That sure cooled off quickly
Nothing about NA waiving NTC
Nothing about how much WC loves Stl
Nothing more about how Noot is Hotter than Brendan
Nothing about JoJo’s MOMO
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