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scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:02 pm What is a human sushi bar?

Is it derogatory? Bigotry?

Melville wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:24 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:02 pm What is a human sushi bar?

Is it derogatory? Bigotry?

Nope.
Just absolutely brilliant branding.
It continues to get more apropos with age.

ClassicO wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:40 pm

Melville wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:24 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:02 pm What is a human sushi bar?

Is it derogatory? Bigotry?

Nope.
Just absolutely brilliant branding.
It continues to get more apropos with age.

It’s stupid.

Melville wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:24 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:02 pm What is a human sushi bar?

Is it derogatory? Bigotry?

Nope.
Just absolutely brilliant branding.
It continues to get more apropos with age.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:02 pm What is a human sushi bar?

Is it derogatory? Bigotry?

Cusecards wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 21:43 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 20:02 pm What is a human sushi bar?

Is it derogatory? Bigotry?

That’s just Me-ville the Sideshow Clown doing his thing.
I guess the “highly educated trainer” connects with his trainees by referring to them with childish nicknames?
Easy
Obvious
Correct

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 22:49 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:33 pm

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:15 pm

rage-STL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 17:20 pm Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

I understand that sentiment. But, if they are not going to add around Donovan, then they need to do the very best they can. I am not a big fan of moving Donovan..

I am not certain who we sent to the Rockies were ever potentially that good except Gomber. Certainly the Diamondback got 3 guys back who had potential.

If they keep Donovan, then they should try to win now. If they don't, they have to get back at least 2 of a teams top 5 prospects. Even if the trade values don't match up. If they hold onto him all of 2026 and then trade him at the deadline in 2027, we are not going to get a lot back for him, ala the relief pitchers.

At some point, we will need to trust what Bloom does, or we won't and this will get ugly.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑30 Oct 2025 17:02 pm

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 22:49 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:33 pm

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:15 pm

rage-STL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 17:20 pm Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

I understand that sentiment. But, if they are not going to add around Donovan, then they need to do the very best they can. I am not a big fan of moving Donovan..

I am not certain who we sent to the Rockies were ever potentially that good except Gomber. Certainly the Diamondback got 3 guys back who had potential.

If they keep Donovan, then they should try to win now. If they don't, they have to get back at least 2 of a teams top 5 prospects. Even if the trade values don't match up. If they hold onto him all of 2026 and then trade him at the deadline in 2027, we are not going to get a lot back for him, ala the relief pitchers.

At some point, we will need to trust what Bloom does, or we won't and this will get ugly.

19K fans per game - its already gotten ugly. I'm just saying if we keep trading anyone who does succeed for semi-random prospects who don't have Bobby Witt ceilings, its going to stay ugly. That's what Colorado and Pittsburg do. Unmet potential is an enormous graveyard.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:40 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:35 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:33 pm

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 20:15 pm

rage-STL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 17:20 pm Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

Keeping him certainly hasn’t helped them win anything

People said that about Tommy Edmon and he’s about to win his a second consecutive World Series ring.

And yes, St. Louis could get a whole lot worse than 79 night wins if they just trade everybody for junk. I live in Denver so I should know.