leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
How can we forget about the cost when the small-minded choose to remind us every time Bolduc takes a dump or wins a hand of Uno? Yes, it was a risk, one given what we know about our current roster and prospects who may be on the team in the next couple of years, was one worth taking. Some fans want us to never include good players in a trade and yet somehow acquire good players. Or they want us to acquire good players for nothing. Neither of those typically happen in the real world (offer sheets aside). You have to give to get.
It's only 3 games into the season. If you're this hot about a few posts about the disappointment of the loss of a strong young player now, just wait until you're hearing about it after game 30 and then game 60 and then year 3
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
How can we forget about the cost when the small-minded choose to remind us every time Bolduc takes a dump or wins a hand of Uno? Yes, it was a risk, one given what we know about our current roster and prospects who may be on the team in the next couple of years, was one worth taking. Some fans want us to never include good players in a trade and yet somehow acquire good players. Or they want us to acquire good players for nothing. Neither of those typically happen in the real world (offer sheets aside). You have to give to get.
It's only 3 games into the season. If you're this hot about a few posts about the disappointment of the loss of a strong young player now, just wait until you're hearing about it after game 30 and then game 60 and then year 3
The flow of prospects pushing for NHL playing time is not going to abate, barring trades. Dvorsky, Stenberg, Lindstein, Pekarcic, Kaskimaki just for starters, Jiricek, Carbonneau, Fischer, Ralph, others . . . AND the Blues still have ALL of their future 1st round picks. Don't get too enamored with the players on the current roster, or any specific prospect, because they may be here today, gone tomorrow. It's a numbers game, players and cap.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
How can we forget about the cost when the small-minded choose to remind us every time Bolduc takes a dump or wins a hand of Uno? Yes, it was a risk, one given what we know about our current roster and prospects who may be on the team in the next couple of years, was one worth taking. Some fans want us to never include good players in a trade and yet somehow acquire good players. Or they want us to acquire good players for nothing. Neither of those typically happen in the real world (offer sheets aside). You have to give to get.
It's only 3 games into the season. If you're this hot about a few posts about the disappointment of the loss of a strong young player now, just wait until you're hearing about it after game 30 and then game 60 and then year 3
Well, I'm not "hot" about it, just confused why folks think he's the next coming of Mike Bossy and we traded him for Bob Stewart. And if it were just a few posts, that would be one thing.
As I've said a number of times, I hope Zach does well. But whether he does or doesn't makes no difference to me. I'll root for the Blues and the players we have, others can focus their energy on players we don't have.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
You don't even have to go back that far. Jay Bouwmeester was booed and trash talked on this forum and others a ton. Back then the likes of Karlsson were popular because they scored a ton of points. JBo was never that type but was always one of the best defensive D-men in the league. Nobody saw it until the cup run.
I am sure a lot of people who were trash talking will never admit it but JBo was not liked very much until 2019.
To be fair he was trash before his hip was repaired...
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
You don't even have to go back that far. Jay Bouwmeester was booed and trash talked on this forum and others a ton. Back then the likes of Karlsson were popular because they scored a ton of points. JBo was never that type but was always one of the best defensive D-men in the league. Nobody saw it until the cup run.
I am sure a lot of people who were trash talking will never admit it but JBo was not liked very much until 2019.
To be fair he was trash before his hip was repaired...
"trash" pretty strong im fairly confident you could not perform anywhere near the level Jaybo was at even hurt but yea he was struggling
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 10:08 am
That's how many Chris Pronger had under his belt before he came to the Blues and still got booed mercilessly. Things turned out ok.
Indeed
He had the worst plus minus of all 46 men who skated on that Blues team. 46 out of 46.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
You don't even have to go back that far. Jay Bouwmeester was booed and trash talked on this forum and others a ton. Back then the likes of Karlsson were popular because they scored a ton of points. JBo was never that type but was always one of the best defensive D-men in the league. Nobody saw it until the cup run.
I am sure a lot of people who were trash talking will never admit it but JBo was not liked very much until 2019.
To be fair he was trash before his hip was repaired...
He's was struggling when he was hurt, certainly not prior to the hip injury. And fortunately it healed in time for the Cup run.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
48-goal pace over the last 30 games for Bolduc....that's over one-third of a season.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
How can we forget about the cost when the small-minded choose to remind us every time Bolduc takes a dump or wins a hand of Uno? Yes, it was a risk, one given what we know about our current roster and prospects who may be on the team in the next couple of years, was one worth taking. Some fans want us to never include good players in a trade and yet somehow acquire good players. Or they want us to acquire good players for nothing. Neither of those typically happen in the real world (offer sheets aside). You have to give to get.
It's only 3 games into the season. If you're this hot about a few posts about the disappointment of the loss of a strong young player now, just wait until you're hearing about it after game 30 and then game 60 and then year 3
The flow of prospects pushing for NHL playing time is not going to abate, barring trades. Dvorsky, Stenberg, Lindstein, Pekarcic, Kaskimaki just for starters, Jiricek, Carbonneau, Fischer, Ralph, others . . . AND the Blues still have ALL of their future 1st round picks. Don't get too enamored with the players on the current roster, or any specific prospect, because they may be here today, gone tomorrow. It's a numbers game, players and cap.
Well said, that's just the way it works. At the same time, this "is" a forum to talk about the Blues. But when ya' slow down and think about the big picture you are right.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
48-goal pace over the last 30 games for Bolduc....that's over one-third of a season.
By the same token then Logan Mailloux is on a 15 goal NHL pace as a 22 year old defenseman so we are good to go right?
I think it's true. We are all hoping that Mailx. turns into the next Petro.or for OP Pronger.
It's also true that Army valued Mailx more then the hockey world and Army valued Bolduc less then the hockey world.
Army isn't good at evaluating talent and that why Army's cult is calling names and making excuses. Where as it's as simple as, 'Army bad.
You don't need to know a players future, to put value on what that player is. Army views his opinion of a player, The value of that player and then offers that price.
Montreal clearly choked on their pancakes when Army threw Out Bolduc. 1 for 1. What's sad is Army probably would of added a second. If Montreal didn't choke.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
The leagues history is littered with players who started out the season on a hot streak such as 7 goals in the first 9 games and end the season with 15 goals.
The league is also littered with players who start off the season struggling to score who then go on to challenge for scoring titles.
Bolduc for all intents and purposes is still a relative unknown, and who knows how his future ends up. Less we forget at one time Jim Campbell had back to back seasons of 22 and 23 goals and Lee Stempniak had a 27 and a 28 goal season.
Logan Mailloux will very likely have an up and down season. He'll look like a world beater in some stretches and like an AHLer in others.
What I'm looking out of him is for him to continue to improve and not get turned around at the blue line, or get beaten easily. If he can limit that, his offense will come around and we'll have ourselves a really solid defenseman.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
You don't even have to go back that far. Jay Bouwmeester was booed and trash talked on this forum and others a ton. Back then the likes of Karlsson were popular because they scored a ton of points. JBo was never that type but was always one of the best defensive D-men in the league. Nobody saw it until the cup run.
I am sure a lot of people who were trash talking will never admit it but JBo was not liked very much until 2019.
To be fair he was trash before his hip was repaired...
