HockeyWriters: Bolduc / Mailloux. Read at your own risk

[netboy65]

Newsflash

Newsflash... You need to get a life Eeyore.

I prefer “Bad Luck Schleprock” wowzy wowzy woo-woo!

[Cahokanut]

It was clear to all who would look. That Bolduc was a keeper.

But Bolduc clearly didn't have many fans in the room. Or Maybe he didn't have the right fans.
Management worked hard to keep Bolduc value low. Giving him [shirt] line mates. Benching him or yelling at him for being in a good offensive position, or taking the puck to the net.

Imo those not fans were Schenn and Neighbours. Whos only chance of success is to go to the net and hope a shot bounces off of them, or the puck drops in front of their sticks.

By playoff time Bolduc was the only guy who had a tail. His shots were finding net and Our two garbage men were more then jelly, they were (upset).
Quick fact. I still haven't got over the waaa. I want to be a center.
That has kept Schenn in our top 6 playing with our only top three players.

So far this year. We are back to running to the front of the net and throwing pucks towards(hence the reason so many go right into the logo on the goalies uniform)
This is how Army and his buddies wants to play.
And Bolduc wanted to play the skilled game he knew.

Mailx. Is not a NHLer. He should be in the A. But like EVERY trade army has made. He will play until he has enough games under his belt. That the forums ball ticks can point to that as a reason the trade wasn't that bad.

Like most of the trades where Army does the evaluation of the talent. It sucks as bad as ALL the others.

[DawgDad]

It was clear to all who would look. That Bolduc was a keeper.

But Bolduc clearly didn't have many fans in the room. Or Maybe he didn't have the right fans.
Management worked hard to keep Bolduc value low. Giving him [shirt] line mates. Benching him or yelling at him for being in a good offensive position, or taking the puck to the net.

Imo those not fans were Schenn and Neighbours. Whos only chance of success is to go to the net and hope a shot bounces off of them, or the puck drops in front of their sticks.

By playoff time Bolduc was the only guy who had a tail. His shots were finding net and Our two garbage men were more then jelly, they were (upset).
Quick fact. I still haven't got over the waaa. I want to be a center.
That has kept Schenn in our top 6 playing with our only top three players.

So far this year. We are back to running to the front of the net and throwing pucks towards(hence the reason so many go right into the logo on the goalies uniform)
This is how Army and his buddies wants to play.
And Bolduc wanted to play the skilled game he knew.

Mailx. Is not a NHLer. He should be in the A. But like EVERY trade army has made. He will play until he has enough games under his belt. That the forums ball ticks can point to that as a reason the trade wasn't that bad.

Like most of the trades where Army does the evaluation of the talent. It sucks as bad as ALL the others.

I detect realization of the truth creeping into your rant. Read your last sentence again, "most" and "ALL" don't quite fit together.

Have fun, it's a LONG season and Bolduc is not likely to come back.

[Cahokanut]

It was clear to all who would look. That Bolduc was a keeper.

But Bolduc clearly didn't have many fans in the room. Or Maybe he didn't have the right fans.
Management worked hard to keep Bolduc value low. Giving him [shirt] line mates. Benching him or yelling at him for being in a good offensive position, or taking the puck to the net.

Imo those not fans were Schenn and Neighbours. Whos only chance of success is to go to the net and hope a shot bounces off of them, or the puck drops in front of their sticks.

By playoff time Bolduc was the only guy who had a tail. His shots were finding net and Our two garbage men were more then jelly, they were (upset).
Quick fact. I still haven't got over the waaa. I want to be a center.
That has kept Schenn in our top 6 playing with our only top three players.

So far this year. We are back to running to the front of the net and throwing pucks towards(hence the reason so many go right into the logo on the goalies uniform)
This is how Army and his buddies wants to play.
And Bolduc wanted to play the skilled game he knew.

Mailx. Is not a NHLer. He should be in the A. But like EVERY trade army has made. He will play until he has enough games under his belt. That the forums ball ticks can point to that as a reason the trade wasn't that bad.

Like most of the trades where Army does the evaluation of the talent. It sucks as bad as ALL the others.

I detect realization of the truth creeping into your rant. Read your last sentence again, "most" and "ALL" don't quite fit together.

Have fun, it's a LONG season and Bolduc is not likely to come back.

Morning rants are the greatest.
And you are right. There's a bunch of truth in it.
How does a guy with third line winger talent get top line talent.
This didn't just start. But has been a thing Since Schenn changed agents, during that time Army was crying about agents, Tarasenko, and contracts.

[a smell of green grass]

My hope is that the fans realize 2 things relative to the Bolduc and Mailloux trade.

1. Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

2. If Mailloux does not work out, the reason for the desperation does NOT go away. If anything, it will get worse, and the desperate moves will also get worse.

So the evaluation of Mailloux should not stop at Mailloux. The evaluation needs to be much bigger than that. Has the desperation been solved? Has the itch been scratched? What was the itch exactly? To me, it appears as though Army is trying to find the next Pietrangelo without a TOP10 draft pick.

Just wait till Army tries to replace Fowler and the 2C. First and foremost, Dvorsky better be it, or total hell is coming.

[dtkblueshockey]

My hope is that the fans realize 2 things relative to the Bolduc and Mailloux trade.

1. Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

2. If Mailloux does not work out, the reason for the desperation does NOT go away. If anything, it will get worse, and the desperate moves will also get worse.

So the evaluation of Mailloux should not stop at Mailloux. The evaluation needs to be much bigger than that. Has the desperation been solved? Has the itch been scratched? What was the itch exactly? To me, it appears as though Army is trying to find the next Pietrangelo without a TOP10 draft pick.

Just wait till Army tries to replace Fowler and the 2C. First and foremost, Dvorsky better be it, or total hell is coming.

I guess I am not sure why you are saying Zack Bolduc was "proven". Up until last season and for a majority of it he was not showing that he was going to turn out. He had a lot to work on over the past couple of seasons and even after Monty got in here you'd have to wonder why a greener player in Snuggerud was able to beat out "proven" guys like Bolduc, Texier, Joseph, etc for a top six role.

I think anyone with eyes could see that they were attempting to trade for Dobson and that fell through so Army pivoted and went after Mailloux. I wouldn't call that desperation. I also am still fine with the fact that they did not give up Jake Neighbours or Jordan Kyrou in any deal that added to their defense.

Bolduc will likely go on to have a good career in Montreal....but the writing was on the wall for him here. There was no way he was going to fit into the mix going forward especially after seeing some of these guys they have coming through the pipeline in the next couple of years.

I get you have an infatuation with wanting the Blues to tank for a Top 10 pick but again as said over and over.....the Ownership did not want this team to flounder in the bottom rungs of the league to try and get lucky on a top draft pick. They need the team to be competitive and profitable to a degree to maintain things here.

Do you think they would be able to keep supporting the team if something like what's happening to the Cardinals happens to the Blues? They would put the team up for sale.

[STL fan in MN]

Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

Because RD is a premium position and LW is not.

To get a RD as proven as Bolduc was, it would’ve cost more than Bolduc as RD is a premium position and LW is probably the least premium position.

[Harry S Deals]

It was clear to all who would look. That Bolduc was a keeper.

But Bolduc clearly didn't have many fans in the room. Or Maybe he didn't have the right fans.
Management worked hard to keep Bolduc value low. Giving him [shirt] line mates. Benching him or yelling at him for being in a good offensive position, or taking the puck to the net.

Imo those not fans were Schenn and Neighbours. Whos only chance of success is to go to the net and hope a shot bounces off of them, or the puck drops in front of their sticks.

By playoff time Bolduc was the only guy who had a tail. His shots were finding net and Our two garbage men were more then jelly, they were (upset).
Quick fact. I still haven't got over the waaa. I want to be a center.
That has kept Schenn in our top 6 playing with our only top three players.

So far this year. We are back to running to the front of the net and throwing pucks towards(hence the reason so many go right into the logo on the goalies uniform)
This is how Army and his buddies wants to play.
And Bolduc wanted to play the skilled game he knew.

Mailx. Is not a NHLer. He should be in the A. But like EVERY trade army has made. He will play until he has enough games under his belt. That the forums ball ticks can point to that as a reason the trade wasn't that bad.

Like most of the trades where Army does the evaluation of the talent. It sucks as bad as ALL the others.

I detect realization of the truth creeping into your rant. Read your last sentence again, "most" and "ALL" don't quite fit together.

Have fun, it's a LONG season and Bolduc is not likely to come back.

Morning rants are the greatest.
And you are right. There's a bunch of truth in it.
How does a guy with third line winger talent get top line talent.
This didn't just start. But has been a thing Since Schenn changed agents, during that time Army was crying about agents, Tarasenko, and contracts.

We are back to running to the front of the net and throwing pucks towards

Watch more hockey this where goals are scored, EVERY NHL coach says the same thing

[St. Charles Bronson]

Bolduc is a fine player, but I trust the paid experts when it comes to evaluating talent, potential, and what they need on the roster to win games. The idea that Schenn and Neighbours do nothing more for the team that stand in front of the net or that they were jealous of Bolduc is silly.

[Army's Mom]

Kiss the ring, bbq boys!

[a smell of green grass]

My hope is that the fans realize 2 things relative to the Bolduc and Mailloux trade.

1. Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

2. If Mailloux does not work out, the reason for the desperation does NOT go away. If anything, it will get worse, and the desperate moves will also get worse.

So the evaluation of Mailloux should not stop at Mailloux. The evaluation needs to be much bigger than that. Has the desperation been solved? Has the itch been scratched? What was the itch exactly? To me, it appears as though Army is trying to find the next Pietrangelo without a TOP10 draft pick.

Just wait till Army tries to replace Fowler and the 2C. First and foremost, Dvorsky better be it, or total hell is coming.

I guess I am not sure why you are saying Zack Bolduc was "proven". Up until last season and for a majority of it he was not showing that he was going to turn out. He had a lot to work on over the past couple of seasons and even after Monty got in here you'd have to wonder why a greener player in Snuggerud was able to beat out "proven" guys like Bolduc, Texier, Joseph, etc for a top six role.

I think anyone with eyes could see that they were attempting to trade for Dobson and that fell through so Army pivoted and went after Mailloux. I wouldn't call that desperation. I also am still fine with the fact that they did not give up Jake Neighbours or Jordan Kyrou in any deal that added to their defense.

Bolduc will likely go on to have a good career in Montreal....but the writing was on the wall for him here. There was no way he was going to fit into the mix going forward especially after seeing some of these guys they have coming through the pipeline in the next couple of years.

I get you have an infatuation with wanting the Blues to tank for a Top 10 pick but again as said over and over.....the Ownership did not want this team to flounder in the bottom rungs of the league to try and get lucky on a top draft pick. They need the team to be competitive and profitable to a degree to maintain things here.

Do you think they would be able to keep supporting the team if something like what's happening to the Cardinals happens to the Blues? They would put the team up for sale.

Do you think that the Cardinals would be what they are without
- Pujols
- Musial
- Gibson

These were players that STOOD OUT WAY ABOVE.. A HOFer's HOF.

Blues Management is committing to NEVER HAVING THOSE SORT OF PLAYERS here. Those players will ALWAYS be in other cities. Always.

And you think that the big payoff for this bottom-scraping skillet lineup is that we will win Stanley Cups instead?

The sure way to kill a franchise is to do what the Blues are doing now. The kids in our town don't even know what name to put on their jersey. And when they do, the player is often traded away 2 years later.

[a smell of green grass]

Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

Because RD is a premium position and LW is not.

To get a RD as proven as Bolduc was, it would’ve cost more than Bolduc as RD is a premium position and LW is probably the least premium position.

RD's are easy enough. Let's not oversimplify. The Blues need an YOUNG ELITE RD to backfill Parayko, and those are very hard to find. Just ask Army, he's been trying to backfill Pietrangelo for 6 years now.

So what happens if the raffle chance (Mailloux) on a RD doesn't hit? What if Mailloux stays Mailloux? Does that mean that in another 2 year's our best young W prospect will get traded away for the next raffle chance?

Everyone is hopeful that Mailloux is it, but let's not forget... Army has misfired many times already on this position. I'm not hopeful on it.

[somni]

My hope is that the fans realize 2 things relative to the Bolduc and Mailloux trade.

1. Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

2. If Mailloux does not work out, the reason for the desperation does NOT go away. If anything, it will get worse, and the desperate moves will also get worse.

So the evaluation of Mailloux should not stop at Mailloux. The evaluation needs to be much bigger than that. Has the desperation been solved? Has the itch been scratched? What was the itch exactly? To me, it appears as though Army is trying to find the next Pietrangelo without a TOP10 draft pick.

Just wait till Army tries to replace Fowler and the 2C. First and foremost, Dvorsky better be it, or total hell is coming.

I guess I am not sure why you are saying Zack Bolduc was "proven". Up until last season and for a majority of it he was not showing that he was going to turn out. He had a lot to work on over the past couple of seasons and even after Monty got in here you'd have to wonder why a greener player in Snuggerud was able to beat out "proven" guys like Bolduc, Texier, Joseph, etc for a top six role.

I think anyone with eyes could see that they were attempting to trade for Dobson and that fell through so Army pivoted and went after Mailloux. I wouldn't call that desperation. I also am still fine with the fact that they did not give up Jake Neighbours or Jordan Kyrou in any deal that added to their defense.

Bolduc will likely go on to have a good career in Montreal....but the writing was on the wall for him here. There was no way he was going to fit into the mix going forward especially after seeing some of these guys they have coming through the pipeline in the next couple of years.

I get you have an infatuation with wanting the Blues to tank for a Top 10 pick but again as said over and over.....the Ownership did not want this team to flounder in the bottom rungs of the league to try and get lucky on a top draft pick. They need the team to be competitive and profitable to a degree to maintain things here.

Do you think they would be able to keep supporting the team if something like what's happening to the Cardinals happens to the Blues? They would put the team up for sale.

Do you think that the Cardinals would be what they are without
- Pujols
- Musial
- Gibson

These were players that STOOD OUT WAY ABOVE.. A HOFer's HOF.

Blues Management is committing to NEVER HAVING THOSE SORT OF PLAYERS here. Those players will ALWAYS be in other cities. Always.

And you think that the big payoff for this bottom-scraping skillet lineup is that we will win Stanley Cups instead?

The sure way to kill a franchise is to do what the Blues are doing now. The kids in our town don't even know what name to put on their jersey. And when they do, the player is often traded away 2 years later.

You are naming two players of more than 50 years ago. At a time when players were the property of their teams. They never had free agency due to the reserve clause.

This is what we call...grasping at straws. You need a life preserver.

[a smell of green grass]

My hope is that the fans realize 2 things relative to the Bolduc and Mailloux trade.

1. Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

2. If Mailloux does not work out, the reason for the desperation does NOT go away. If anything, it will get worse, and the desperate moves will also get worse.

So the evaluation of Mailloux should not stop at Mailloux. The evaluation needs to be much bigger than that. Has the desperation been solved? Has the itch been scratched? What was the itch exactly? To me, it appears as though Army is trying to find the next Pietrangelo without a TOP10 draft pick.

Just wait till Army tries to replace Fowler and the 2C. First and foremost, Dvorsky better be it, or total hell is coming.

I guess I am not sure why you are saying Zack Bolduc was "proven". Up until last season and for a majority of it he was not showing that he was going to turn out. He had a lot to work on over the past couple of seasons and even after Monty got in here you'd have to wonder why a greener player in Snuggerud was able to beat out "proven" guys like Bolduc, Texier, Joseph, etc for a top six role.

I think anyone with eyes could see that they were attempting to trade for Dobson and that fell through so Army pivoted and went after Mailloux. I wouldn't call that desperation. I also am still fine with the fact that they did not give up Jake Neighbours or Jordan Kyrou in any deal that added to their defense.

Bolduc will likely go on to have a good career in Montreal....but the writing was on the wall for him here. There was no way he was going to fit into the mix going forward especially after seeing some of these guys they have coming through the pipeline in the next couple of years.

I get you have an infatuation with wanting the Blues to tank for a Top 10 pick but again as said over and over.....the Ownership did not want this team to flounder in the bottom rungs of the league to try and get lucky on a top draft pick. They need the team to be competitive and profitable to a degree to maintain things here.

Do you think they would be able to keep supporting the team if something like what's happening to the Cardinals happens to the Blues? They would put the team up for sale.

Do you think that the Cardinals would be what they are without
- Pujols
- Musial
- Gibson

These were players that STOOD OUT WAY ABOVE.. A HOFer's HOF.

Blues Management is committing to NEVER HAVING THOSE SORT OF PLAYERS here. Those players will ALWAYS be in other cities. Always.

And you think that the big payoff for this bottom-scraping skillet lineup is that we will win Stanley Cups instead?

The sure way to kill a franchise is to do what the Blues are doing now. The kids in our town don't even know what name to put on their jersey. And when they do, the player is often traded away 2 years later.

You are naming two players of more than 50 years ago. At a time when players were the property of their teams. They never had free agency due to the reserve clause.

This is what we call...grasping at straws. You need a life preserver.

Take a look at every list of the elite players in the NHL. Every list, every day.

In the last 5 years, those players are never wearing a Blues jersey.

Despite this, some believe that Army is doing a good job.

[somni]

My hope is that the fans realize 2 things relative to the Bolduc and Mailloux trade.

1. Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

2. If Mailloux does not work out, the reason for the desperation does NOT go away. If anything, it will get worse, and the desperate moves will also get worse.

So the evaluation of Mailloux should not stop at Mailloux. The evaluation needs to be much bigger than that. Has the desperation been solved? Has the itch been scratched? What was the itch exactly? To me, it appears as though Army is trying to find the next Pietrangelo without a TOP10 draft pick.

Just wait till Army tries to replace Fowler and the 2C. First and foremost, Dvorsky better be it, or total hell is coming.

I guess I am not sure why you are saying Zack Bolduc was "proven". Up until last season and for a majority of it he was not showing that he was going to turn out. He had a lot to work on over the past couple of seasons and even after Monty got in here you'd have to wonder why a greener player in Snuggerud was able to beat out "proven" guys like Bolduc, Texier, Joseph, etc for a top six role.

I think anyone with eyes could see that they were attempting to trade for Dobson and that fell through so Army pivoted and went after Mailloux. I wouldn't call that desperation. I also am still fine with the fact that they did not give up Jake Neighbours or Jordan Kyrou in any deal that added to their defense.

Bolduc will likely go on to have a good career in Montreal....but the writing was on the wall for him here. There was no way he was going to fit into the mix going forward especially after seeing some of these guys they have coming through the pipeline in the next couple of years.

I get you have an infatuation with wanting the Blues to tank for a Top 10 pick but again as said over and over.....the Ownership did not want this team to flounder in the bottom rungs of the league to try and get lucky on a top draft pick. They need the team to be competitive and profitable to a degree to maintain things here.

Do you think they would be able to keep supporting the team if something like what's happening to the Cardinals happens to the Blues? They would put the team up for sale.

Do you think that the Cardinals would be what they are without
- Pujols
- Musial
- Gibson

These were players that STOOD OUT WAY ABOVE.. A HOFer's HOF.

Blues Management is committing to NEVER HAVING THOSE SORT OF PLAYERS here. Those players will ALWAYS be in other cities. Always.

And you think that the big payoff for this bottom-scraping skillet lineup is that we will win Stanley Cups instead?

The sure way to kill a franchise is to do what the Blues are doing now. The kids in our town don't even know what name to put on their jersey. And when they do, the player is often traded away 2 years later.

You are naming two players of more than 50 years ago. At a time when players were the property of their teams. They never had free agency due to the reserve clause.

This is what we call...grasping at straws. You need a life preserver.

Take a look at every list of the elite players in the NHL. Every list, every day.

In the last 5 years, those players are never wearing a Blues jersey.

Despite this, some believe that Army is doing a good job.

So start looking at players the year after the Blues won the Stanley Cup??

[a smell of green grass]

My hope is that the fans realize 2 things relative to the Bolduc and Mailloux trade.

1. Army made the move out of desperation. Why else give up a young proven player for a young unproven one?

2. If Mailloux does not work out, the reason for the desperation does NOT go away. If anything, it will get worse, and the desperate moves will also get worse.

So the evaluation of Mailloux should not stop at Mailloux. The evaluation needs to be much bigger than that. Has the desperation been solved? Has the itch been scratched? What was the itch exactly? To me, it appears as though Army is trying to find the next Pietrangelo without a TOP10 draft pick.

Just wait till Army tries to replace Fowler and the 2C. First and foremost, Dvorsky better be it, or total hell is coming.

I guess I am not sure why you are saying Zack Bolduc was "proven". Up until last season and for a majority of it he was not showing that he was going to turn out. He had a lot to work on over the past couple of seasons and even after Monty got in here you'd have to wonder why a greener player in Snuggerud was able to beat out "proven" guys like Bolduc, Texier, Joseph, etc for a top six role.

I think anyone with eyes could see that they were attempting to trade for Dobson and that fell through so Army pivoted and went after Mailloux. I wouldn't call that desperation. I also am still fine with the fact that they did not give up Jake Neighbours or Jordan Kyrou in any deal that added to their defense.

Bolduc will likely go on to have a good career in Montreal....but the writing was on the wall for him here. There was no way he was going to fit into the mix going forward especially after seeing some of these guys they have coming through the pipeline in the next couple of years.

I get you have an infatuation with wanting the Blues to tank for a Top 10 pick but again as said over and over.....the Ownership did not want this team to flounder in the bottom rungs of the league to try and get lucky on a top draft pick. They need the team to be competitive and profitable to a degree to maintain things here.

Do you think they would be able to keep supporting the team if something like what's happening to the Cardinals happens to the Blues? They would put the team up for sale.

Do you think that the Cardinals would be what they are without
- Pujols
- Musial
- Gibson

These were players that STOOD OUT WAY ABOVE.. A HOFer's HOF.

Blues Management is committing to NEVER HAVING THOSE SORT OF PLAYERS here. Those players will ALWAYS be in other cities. Always.

And you think that the big payoff for this bottom-scraping skillet lineup is that we will win Stanley Cups instead?

The sure way to kill a franchise is to do what the Blues are doing now. The kids in our town don't even know what name to put on their jersey. And when they do, the player is often traded away 2 years later.

You are naming two players of more than 50 years ago. At a time when players were the property of their teams. They never had free agency due to the reserve clause.

This is what we call...grasping at straws. You need a life preserver.

Take a look at every list of the elite players in the NHL. Every list, every day.

In the last 5 years, those players are never wearing a Blues jersey.

Despite this, some believe that Army is doing a good job.

So start looking at players the year after the Blues won the Stanley Cup??

In Pittsburg, they have an unbroken chain of stardom for 30 years. Lemiux, Crosby, Malkin, Jagr, etc.
In St Louis, 10-year droughts are acceptable.

I bet Army loves being a GM here. There is zero accountability.