Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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Melville wrote: 09 Oct 2025 09:24 am
Horseradish wrote: 09 Oct 2025 09:11 am
Melville wrote: 09 Oct 2025 09:08 am I suspect the D' Backs are currently the most likely landing spot for N/A.
Will you guarantee a trade again? :lol:
Too soon.
Last year, STL traded N/A within the precise 4-day window I predicted weeks in advance.
And the team will unquestionably maintain my accuracy rate which has exceeded 90% over the past decade.
But, we must first pass the QA and non-tender deadlines before we can analyze how the post-season will develop from there.
Patience.
Melville, what would you recommend Bloom do with the current catcher depth? I believe you don't want Herrera catching. Is that correct? He'll need to probably DH then with Burleson as a regular corner outfielder.
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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Midrange Jay wrote: 08 Oct 2025 14:26 pm
RunSup wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:16 pm Arenado contract: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id ... an-arenado

Manea Contract: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id ... ean-manaea

Manea 2025 injuries: https://sports.yahoo.com/article/mets-s ... 57464.html

Manea started the season on the IL with an oblique strain that kept him out til mid season. Then "loose bodies" diagnosed in his arm

They claim now he doesn't need off-season surgery. But yeah right. He'll need surgery.

According to Sportrac, Manea is owed ~$39M through 2027. With additional $23.25M deferred over 10 years beginning in 2035.

Arenado is owed $31M through 2027. With additional -$42M of deferrals continuing from 2026 thru 2041

Both teams would be just dumping contracts. Questionable whether Manea pitches effectively again. Arenado at least can play the field. Optimistically, he recovers doubles power and a .750 OPS. But that's looking through rose colored glasses.. Both probably need off-season arm surgery.

The additional prospect returned is middling. But Nado was never going to return a top prospect.
It’s a relatively even trade. I could see the Cardinals using Manea’s salary as an excuse not to sign an SP.
Yeah. They aren't going to sign a significant FA. Manea would be another body if healthy. Which is not saying much.
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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Melville wrote: 09 Oct 2025 09:24 am
Horseradish wrote: 09 Oct 2025 09:11 am
Melville wrote: 09 Oct 2025 09:08 am I suspect the D' Backs are currently the most likely landing spot for N/A.
Will you guarantee a trade again? :lol:
Too soon.
Last year, STL traded N/A within the precise 4-day window I predicted weeks in advance.
And the team will unquestionably maintain my accuracy rate which has exceeded 90% over the past decade.
But, we must first pass the QA and non-tender deadlines before we can analyze how the post-season will develop from there.
Patience.
Hahahaha, you still pushing that bull[shirt] that he was traded? I get it, you’re just a parody account. No way anyone serious would continue to act like what didn’t happen actually happened. It’s really quite disturbing that your mental health is such that you believe your own fairy tales.
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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They should hold onto NA unless they get a favorable return (unlikely).
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 08 Oct 2025 10:01 am
sdaltons wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:48 am Not sure the Mets will want to deal with us again after the Helsley fiasco :lol:
That was my first thought too lol!
That trade will have no impact on future discussions. NYM knew who Helsley was and what form he was in and the risks. They dealt knowing everything STL knew. They are big boys and gambled.
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 11 Oct 2025 07:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 08 Oct 2025 10:01 am
sdaltons wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:48 am Not sure the Mets will want to deal with us again after the Helsley fiasco :lol:
That was my first thought too lol!
That trade will have no impact on future discussions. NYM knew who Helsley was and what form he was in and the risks. They dealt knowing everything STL knew. They are big boys and gambled.
We were both laughing about it. We realize it won’t stop the two teams from dealing if they see a fit that improves their businesses….but the harmless and passing thought would have to cross their (and the fans) minds because that trade was a disaster.

That said, do you really think the Mets thought they were getting anything close to the version of RH they got?
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:26 am
NYCardsFan wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:24 am Another day, another Shady thread about a purely speculative MSN/SI/Fansided clickbait article, wrapped in an intentionally misleading thread title in order to get more clicks/attention.
Seems a beggar man done found himself some wine.
October wine. I prefer April wine
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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Cards’ Talk whine usually ages poorly.
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 11 Oct 2025 08:38 am
AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 11 Oct 2025 07:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 08 Oct 2025 10:01 am
sdaltons wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:48 am Not sure the Mets will want to deal with us again after the Helsley fiasco :lol:
That was my first thought too lol!
That trade will have no impact on future discussions. NYM knew who Helsley was and what form he was in and the risks. They dealt knowing everything STL knew. They are big boys and gambled.
We were both laughing about it. We realize it won’t stop the two teams from dealing if they see a fit that improves their businesses….but the harmless and passing thought would have to cross their (and the fans) minds because that trade was a disaster.

That said, do you really think the Mets thought they were getting anything close to the version of RH they got?
I suspect they were hoping for something more in line with his 2024 performance in the second half. That going to a contender and used as a closer type would re-energize him. But I'm also certain their scouts warned management he wasn't throwing with as much control and stuff and wasn't that guy. Sure, they were disappointed. It happens.
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 11 Oct 2025 12:13 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 11 Oct 2025 08:38 am
AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 11 Oct 2025 07:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 08 Oct 2025 10:01 am
sdaltons wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:48 am Not sure the Mets will want to deal with us again after the Helsley fiasco :lol:
That was my first thought too lol!
That trade will have no impact on future discussions. NYM knew who Helsley was and what form he was in and the risks. They dealt knowing everything STL knew. They are big boys and gambled.
We were both laughing about it. We realize it won’t stop the two teams from dealing if they see a fit that improves their businesses….but the harmless and passing thought would have to cross their (and the fans) minds because that trade was a disaster.

That said, do you really think the Mets thought they were getting anything close to the version of RH they got?
I suspect they were hoping for something more in line with his 2024 performance in the second half. That going to a contender and used as a closer type would re-energize him. But I'm also certain their scouts warned management he wasn't throwing with as much control and stuff and wasn't that guy. Sure, they were disappointed. It happens.
Not that I feel sorry for the Mets, but I do like Helsley. Thought he was about the best homegrown we’ve produced in a decade. Maybe he hurt his value and will come back home on the cheap!
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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ok, the party animals that just won the banana ball championship, unless this is a replay on now, have a 3b who just made the smoothest super short hop grab and throw in the last inning of the championship against the firefighters. Maybe he can coach up Gorman.
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Re: Could Arenado be heading to the Mets?

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Clubmaker2 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 00:41 am ok, the party animals that just won the banana ball championship, unless this is a replay on now, have a 3b who just made the smoothest super short hop grab and throw in the last inning of the championship against the firefighters. Maybe he can coach up Gorman.
Not only that, a couple pitchers were good and the hitters took real cuts.
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