Cranny wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
The Cohens of the world are ruining baseball.
Cranny, was the Yankees payroll in the ‘20’s the same as the Browns?
The spread over the years has widened.
The teams didn’t make payroll public like they do today….but from the 20’s-60’s there was a 2-3x difference from bottom to top and that was only 16 teams
So it’s not much different today perhaps a bit more extended at the very top.
Dodgers payroll in 2025 - $350 million
Miami payroll in 2025 - $69 million
The 10 ten payrolls account for about 2.5 billion
The bottom 20 payrolls around 2.5 billion
So 5 billion split among 30 teams = 170 million per team
Easily attainable with revenue sharing - it’s the NFL model
But the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs don’t want to split the pie and the MLBPA doesn’t want a cap
The Mets debunked the “Big Boys Spend TOO Much for anyone else to compete” narrative…….See Reds
Actually, the Brewers and Guardians did
Exactly……Cranny’s great Canard is full of holes every year.
A competent Baseball eye and practitioner would have used the 180mil payroll to dominate the NL Central and possibly win another WS since ‘11
But Mo was a failure and BDW just let him burn the city to the ground….not sure who is worse
Cranny wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
The Cohens of the world are ruining baseball.
Cranny, was the Yankees payroll in the ‘20’s the same as the Browns?
The spread over the years has widened.
The teams didn’t make payroll public like they do today….but from the 20’s-60’s there was a 2-3x difference from bottom to top and that was only 16 teams
So it’s not much different today perhaps a bit more extended at the very top.
Dodgers payroll in 2025 - $350 million
Miami payroll in 2025 - $69 million
The 10 ten payrolls account for about 2.5 billion
The bottom 20 payrolls around 2.5 billion
So 5 billion split among 30 teams = 170 million per team
Easily attainable with revenue sharing - it’s the NFL model
But the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs don’t want to split the pie and the MLBPA doesn’t want a cap
The Mets debunked the “Big Boys Spend TOO Much for anyone else to compete” narrative…….See Reds
Actually, the Brewers and Guardians did
Exactly……Cranny’s great Canard is full of holes every year.
A competent Baseball eye and practitioner would have used the 180mil payroll to dominate the NL Central and possibly win another WS since ‘11
But Mo was a failure and BDW just let him burn the city to the ground….not sure who is worse
It was a perfect storm that no one could predict.
I know it and you know it.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
The Cohens of the world are ruining baseball.
Cranny, was the Yankees payroll in the ‘20’s the same as the Browns?
The spread over the years has widened.
The teams didn’t make payroll public like they do today….but from the 20’s-60’s there was a 2-3x difference from bottom to top and that was only 16 teams
So it’s not much different today perhaps a bit more extended at the very top.
Dodgers payroll in 2025 - $350 million
Miami payroll in 2025 - $69 million
The 10 ten payrolls account for about 2.5 billion
The bottom 20 payrolls around 2.5 billion
So 5 billion split among 30 teams = 170 million per team
Easily attainable with revenue sharing - it’s the NFL model
But the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs don’t want to split the pie and the MLBPA doesn’t want a cap
The Mets debunked the “Big Boys Spend TOO Much for anyone else to compete” narrative…….See Reds
Actually, the Brewers and Guardians did
Exactly……Cranny’s great Canard is full of holes every year.
A competent Baseball eye and practitioner would have used the 180mil payroll to dominate the NL Central and possibly win another WS since ‘11
But Mo was a failure and BDW just let him burn the city to the ground….not sure who is worse
It was a perfect storm that no one could predict.
I know it and you know it.
Hurricane MO and his cat 5 incompetency. Cranny we’ve gone over all the Gory trades and signings before …..Please don’t act like it never happened and some dark outside voodoo caused this.
Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:30 pm
Mets fans everywhere. I owe you an apology . You did your part by showing up and supporting the team. We didn’t do our part. We will do a post-mortem and figure out the obvious and less obvious reasons why the team didn’t perform up to your and my expectations
We are all feeling raw emotions today. I know how much time and effort you have put into this team. The result was unacceptable. Your emotions tell me how much you care and continues to motivate the organization to do better. Thank You to the best fans in sports.
Steve Cohen
You will never hear anything close to that from the BDWs. They don't seem to give a s*** bout the fans. Their proxy, Mozeliak, stated that clearly when he extended Marmol because he didn't want him to feel pressure to win. Say WTAF?!
Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:30 pm
Mets fans everywhere. I owe you an apology . You did your part by showing up and supporting the team. We didn’t do our part. We will do a post-mortem and figure out the obvious and less obvious reasons why the team didn’t perform up to your and my expectations
We are all feeling raw emotions today. I know how much time and effort you have put into this team. The result was unacceptable. Your emotions tell me how much you care and continues to motivate the organization to do better. Thank You to the best fans in sports.
Steve Cohen
You will never hear anything close to that from the BDWs. They don't seem to give a s*** bout the fans. Their proxy, Mozeliak, stated that clearly when he extended Marmol because he didn't want him to feel pressure to win. Say WTAF?!
One of the most telling and greatest Mo quotes
“We extended him so he doesn’t have pressure to win” when he extended Oli
And
“Winning isn’t Everything” when he fired Schildty
Obviously this Buffoon cares little about WINNING
Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:30 pm
Mets fans everywhere. I owe you an apology . You did your part by showing up and supporting the team. We didn’t do our part. We will do a post-mortem and figure out the obvious and less obvious reasons why the team didn’t perform up to your and my expectations
We are all feeling raw emotions today. I know how much time and effort you have put into this team. The result was unacceptable. Your emotions tell me how much you care and continues to motivate the organization to do better. Thank You to the best fans in sports.
Steve Cohen
You will never hear anything close to that from the BDWs. They don't seem to give a s*** bout the fans. Their proxy, Mozeliak, stated that clearly when he extended Marmol because he didn't want him to feel pressure to win. Say WTAF?!
One of the most telling and greatest Mo quotes
“We extended him so he doesn’t have pressure to win” when he extended Oli
And
“Winning isn’t Everything” when he fired Schildty
Obviously this Buffoon cares little about WINNING
He should have been fired. But then he was just reflecting what ownership believes. Profits aren't everything, they're the only thing. That is "obviously" the case. But the BDWs also seem to believe that making their product worse will increase profits.
Horseradish wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Not sure these types of messages from ownership really move the needle for me, but I guess some fans feel like they’re owned lip service. Results are all that matters to me.
Would you prefer
“The team played well”
“We have some talent”
“We won’t be active much this Offseason”
“We extended our manager so he doesn’t have pressure to win”
“See what we’ve got” “Keep our powder dry” “Payroll muscle” “Runway” “Reset” “Winning isn’t everything” “low-hanging fruit” “payroll correlates with attendance” “revisit our model” ….the jargon/Mo-speak was limitless.
It truly was something to behold. Obviously (couldn't resist using that), Johnny bow ties spent more time developing catch phrases than he did improving the team.
Horseradish wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Not sure these types of messages from ownership really move the needle for me, but I guess some fans feel like they’re owned lip service. Results are all that matters to me.
Would you prefer
“The team played well”
“We have some talent”
“We won’t be active much this Offseason”
“We extended our manager so he doesn’t have pressure to win”
“See what we’ve got” “Keep our powder dry” “Payroll muscle” “Runway” “Reset” “Winning isn’t everything” “low-hanging fruit” “payroll correlates with attendance” “revisit our model” ….the jargon/Mo-speak was limitless.
It truly was something to behold. Obviously (couldn't resist using that), Johnny bow ties spent more time developing catch phrases than he did improving the team.
A PRO SPORT POBO Says
“Winning isn’t everything”
Leads you to wonder what our Mo thought his job was???
Horseradish wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Not sure these types of messages from ownership really move the needle for me, but I guess some fans feel like they’re owned lip service. Results are all that matters to me.
Would you prefer
“The team played well”
“We have some talent”
“We won’t be active much this Offseason”
“We extended our manager so he doesn’t have pressure to win”
“See what we’ve got” “Keep our powder dry” “Payroll muscle” “Runway” “Reset” “Winning isn’t everything” “low-hanging fruit” “payroll correlates with attendance” “revisit our model” ….the jargon/Mo-speak was limitless.
It truly was something to behold. Obviously (couldn't resist using that), Johnny bow ties spent more time developing catch phrases than he did improving the team.
Horseradish wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Not sure these types of messages from ownership really move the needle for me, but I guess some fans feel like they’re owned lip service. Results are all that matters to me.
Would you prefer
“The team played well”
“We have some talent”
“We won’t be active much this Offseason”
“We extended our manager so he doesn’t have pressure to win”
“See what we’ve got” “Keep our powder dry” “Payroll muscle” “Runway” “Reset” “Winning isn’t everything” “low-hanging fruit” “payroll correlates with attendance” “revisit our model” ….the jargon/Mo-speak was limitless.
It truly was something to behold. Obviously (couldn't resist using that), Johnny bow ties spent more time developing catch phrases than he did improving the team.
A PRO SPORT POBO Says
“Winning isn’t everything”
Leads you to wonder what our Mo thought his job was???
Horseradish wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Not sure these types of messages from ownership really move the needle for me, but I guess some fans feel like they’re owned lip service. Results are all that matters to me.
Would you prefer
“The team played well”
“We have some talent”
“We won’t be active much this Offseason”
“We extended our manager so he doesn’t have pressure to win”
“See what we’ve got” “Keep our powder dry” “Payroll muscle” “Runway” “Reset” “Winning isn’t everything” “low-hanging fruit” “payroll correlates with attendance” “revisit our model” ….the jargon/Mo-speak was limitless.
It truly was something to behold. Obviously (couldn't resist using that), Johnny bow ties spent more time developing catch phrases than he did improving the team.
A PRO SPORT POBO Says
“Winning isn’t everything”
Leads you to wonder what our Mo thought his job was???
Making money for DeWitt.
I'm so glad he's finally history... Mo-ran, go home to your 'beautiful family ' and take your (donkey)(pit) front office (donkey) kissers with you.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
The Cohens of the world are ruining baseball.
Cranny, was the Yankees payroll in the ‘20’s the same as the Browns?
The spread over the years has widened.
The teams didn’t make payroll public like they do today….but from the 20’s-60’s there was a 2-3x difference from bottom to top and that was only 16 teams
So it’s not much different today perhaps a bit more extended at the very top.
Dodgers payroll in 2025 - $350 million
Miami payroll in 2025 - $69 million
The 10 ten payrolls account for about 2.5 billion
The bottom 20 payrolls around 2.5 billion
So 5 billion split among 30 teams = 170 million per team
Easily attainable with revenue sharing - it’s the NFL model
But the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs don’t want to split the pie and the MLBPA doesn’t want a cap
The Mets debunked the “Big Boys Spend TOO Much for anyone else to compete” narrative…….See Reds
Actually, the Brewers and Guardians did
Exactly……Cranny’s great Canard is full of holes every year.
A competent Baseball eye and practitioner would have used the 180mil payroll to dominate the NL Central and possibly win another WS since ‘11
But Mo was a failure and BDW just let him burn the city to the ground….not sure who is worse
It was a perfect storm that no one could predict.
I know it and you know it.
That is a complete crock of [shirt] Cranny.
I know it and you know it.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
The Cohens of the world are ruining baseball.
Cranny, was the Yankees payroll in the ‘20’s the same as the Browns?
The spread over the years has widened.
The teams didn’t make payroll public like they do today….but from the 20’s-60’s there was a 2-3x difference from bottom to top and that was only 16 teams
So it’s not much different today perhaps a bit more extended at the very top.
Dodgers payroll in 2025 - $350 million
Miami payroll in 2025 - $69 million
The 10 ten payrolls account for about 2.5 billion
The bottom 20 payrolls around 2.5 billion
So 5 billion split among 30 teams = 170 million per team
Easily attainable with revenue sharing - it’s the NFL model
But the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs don’t want to split the pie and the MLBPA doesn’t want a cap
The Mets debunked the “Big Boys Spend TOO Much for anyone else to compete” narrative…….See Reds
Actually, the Brewers and Guardians did
Exactly……Cranny’s great Canard is full of holes every year.
A competent Baseball eye and practitioner would have used the 180mil payroll to dominate the NL Central and possibly win another WS since ‘11
But Mo was a failure and BDW just let him burn the city to the ground….not sure who is worse
It was a perfect storm that no one could predict.
I know it and you know it.
That is a complete crock of [shirt] Cranny.
I know it and you know it.
Well, Bomber, I’m sure glad you could predict Goldy and Arenado going backward so quickly, Gorman and Walker sliding badly, and those pitchers we got at the deadline all going down with arm problems. You’re an absolute savant.
Horseradish wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Not sure these types of messages from ownership really move the needle for me, but I guess some fans feel like they’re owned lip service. Results are all that matters to me.
Would you prefer
“The team played well”
“We have some talent”
“We won’t be active much this Offseason”
“We extended our manager so he doesn’t have pressure to win”
Who cares what they say. I only care about the results on the field. This "message to Mets fans" is worthless.
I’m guessing Mets fans are feeling much better about the collapse of the team, and missing the playoffs, now that the owner has taken the blame.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
The Cohens of the world are ruining baseball.
Cranny, was the Yankees payroll in the ‘20’s the same as the Browns?
The spread over the years has widened.
The teams didn’t make payroll public like they do today….but from the 20’s-60’s there was a 2-3x difference from bottom to top and that was only 16 teams
So it’s not much different today perhaps a bit more extended at the very top.
Dodgers payroll in 2025 - $350 million
Miami payroll in 2025 - $69 million
The 10 ten payrolls account for about 2.5 billion
The bottom 20 payrolls around 2.5 billion
So 5 billion split among 30 teams = 170 million per team
Easily attainable with revenue sharing - it’s the NFL model
But the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs don’t want to split the pie and the MLBPA doesn’t want a cap
The Mets debunked the “Big Boys Spend TOO Much for anyone else to compete” narrative…….See Reds
Actually, the Brewers and Guardians did
Exactly……Cranny’s great Canard is full of holes every year.
A competent Baseball eye and practitioner would have used the 180mil payroll to dominate the NL Central and possibly win another WS since ‘11
But Mo was a failure and BDW just let him burn the city to the ground….not sure who is worse
It was a perfect storm that no one could predict.
I know it and you know it.
That is a complete crock of [shirt] Cranny.
I know it and you know it.
Well, Bomber, I’m sure glad you could predict Goldy and Arenado going backward so quickly, Gorman and Walker sliding badly, and those pitchers we got at the deadline all going down with arm problems. You’re an absolute savant.
Mozeliak is a moron and had made one bad deal after another - trades, FA signings, stupid extensions - for years.
Gorman and Walker are just 2 of the latest examples of Mozeliak’s buffoonery - first round failures.
You act like this all began in 2023.
It didn’t.
“Perfect storm”.
More like the culmination of 8 years of Mozeliak doing things his way.
Horseradish wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Not sure these types of messages from ownership really move the needle for me, but I guess some fans feel like they’re owned lip service. Results are all that matters to me.
Would you prefer
“The team played well”
“We have some talent”
“We won’t be active much this Offseason”
“We extended our manager so he doesn’t have pressure to win”
neither statements do anything for me one way or the other
