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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:14 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Old_Goat wrote: 24 Sep 2025 17:21 pm I agree. Neighbors, Tucker & Schenn bring enough of a physical protection for the youngsters in today's modern NHL.
They're all small dudes (6'1 200ish); and the Captain doesn't need to be fighting much, Neighbours doesn't need to risk an injury in a fight (concussion, broken hand, etc). They need a large heavyweight or at least a capable middleweight.
This is the important part. If the Blues truly want to push for the playoffs, they need a regular season guy to take the lead on this stuff. Army said it pretty flat out, there aren't many teams that can shove the Blues around, but there are 3-4 that aren't necessarily worried about the physical side when playing the Blues. Lucic is there to possibly cover those basis. If that is the truth, then playing Lucic sparingly like in a Reeves role isn't the worst thing, assuming Lucic is on board with that and he isn't a Reeves level anchor. If the Blues are going to be a playoff team, they have 2 challenges in front of them. Getting the young guys to make big strides, and getting the team to be relatively healthy at the end. I don't want to hear that Schenn had to play in the playoffs again with broken ribs because he's our wake the F up guy on the ice. Tucker seemed to take some of that responsibility last year, but we don't need to see his face caved in either. And Neighbours is approaching the too valuable to risk injury category.
I agree with this. Lucic brings an element we don’t currently have.

And it’s not just fighting. It’s big hits, scrums, board play and the occasional goal.

My question is if he has enough in his legs to keep up. As of now, I say…probably not. But I’d like to see him recover from the groin strain and then be given a fair shot. If he can skate well enough, I’d be fine with him taking a spot from either Texier or Joseph.
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those who have watched practices, say he brings nothing that you cant get from a younger player. he'd be taking a players spot, if part of opening roster.
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dhsux wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:10 pm
Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:14 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Old_Goat wrote: 24 Sep 2025 17:21 pm I agree. Neighbors, Tucker & Schenn bring enough of a physical protection for the youngsters in today's modern NHL.
They're all small dudes (6'1 200ish); and the Captain doesn't need to be fighting much, Neighbours doesn't need to risk an injury in a fight (concussion, broken hand, etc). They need a large heavyweight or at least a capable middleweight.
This is the important part. If the Blues truly want to push for the playoffs, they need a regular season guy to take the lead on this stuff. Army said it pretty flat out, there aren't many teams that can shove the Blues around, but there are 3-4 that aren't necessarily worried about the physical side when playing the Blues. Lucic is there to possibly cover those basis. If that is the truth, then playing Lucic sparingly like in a Reeves role isn't the worst thing, assuming Lucic is on board with that and he isn't a Reeves level anchor. If the Blues are going to be a playoff team, they have 2 challenges in front of them. Getting the young guys to make big strides, and getting the team to be relatively healthy at the end. I don't want to hear that Schenn had to play in the playoffs again with broken ribs because he's our wake the F up guy on the ice. Tucker seemed to take some of that responsibility last year, but we don't need to see his face caved in either. And Neighbours is approaching the too valuable to risk injury category.

This is the most reasonable thoughts on Lucic. He isn’t taking anybody’s spot. He would be the last man on the roster, probably instead of a Joseph/Texier. Unless he is way more than we think, he’s would play 25-30 games a year. Guys like Wilson, Olivier, Rempe, Stanley etc run amuck and we don’t need Schenn and Neighbours stepping up and taking that on.

The Blues could get through 60 games without him but the other 20, Lucic would have a role. 25 games, 10-12 minutes a game, would be a good break for our stand up, middle weight guys.

If Lucic doesn’t have that game in him any more, I would hope Army finds someone else for that role.
Please don't lessen the importance of the last spot.

Nobody is lessening the importance of anyone. DA and Monty must have seen a need for a Lucic type or why in the heck would they have signed him to the PTO. Whatever those two decide is fine with me. I don’t care if Lucic is here or not. I do see a limited need for him. Let’s just see what happens.
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theograce wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:20 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:18 pm
theograce wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:08 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:05 pm
theograce wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:55 pm Guys are gonna be skating around calling him a drunk washed up woman beater.

His ego is gonna get pounded lol
NHL players respect fellow NHLers private lives, no one is gonna do that.
Like when Tkachuk recently mocked Kane on the ice for his money stuff?

You understand the game so well lol
You think chirping someone spending money foolishly versus chirping a fellow NHLer about spousal abuse and/or alcoholism is comparable? You understand life and NHL camaraderie so well "lol".
Yes of course. It was a very painful time for Kane. After the game Kane publicly said Tkachuk crossed the line. He was very upset

Get a clue on the game within the game
Aww poor boy, he's just thin-skinned. Crocodile tears. :lol:

Get a clue on NHL player respect and decorum.
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Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:27 pm
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:21 pm Tom Wilson had 4 or 5 fights in '24-'25 in 81 games (depending on the site). Nathan Walker had 5 fights in 73 games. You gotta wonder how many fights Lucic would have in 25 or 30 games most likely playing maybe 10 minutes per game. DA and Monty can decide if that roster spot is worth it.

They will. There’s a reason they asked Lucic to try out. They must feel there’s a need for his “abilities”. Whatever they decide is fine with me.
Whatever they decide is fine with me too. They hadn't seen Lucic play in 2 years when they invited him though. Nobody had. I don't think he is what they were hoping. Doesn't mean that they won't find that guy if they really think that player is needed.
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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:34 pm Get a clue on NHL player respect and decorum.
You can’t be this dumb

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b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:35 pm
Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:27 pm
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:21 pm Tom Wilson had 4 or 5 fights in '24-'25 in 81 games (depending on the site). Nathan Walker had 5 fights in 73 games. You gotta wonder how many fights Lucic would have in 25 or 30 games most likely playing maybe 10 minutes per game. DA and Monty can decide if that roster spot is worth it.

They will. There’s a reason they asked Lucic to try out. They must feel there’s a need for his “abilities”. Whatever they decide is fine with me.
Whatever they decide is fine with me too. They hadn't seen Lucic play in 2 years when they invited him though. Nobody had. I don't think he is what they were hoping. Doesn't mean that they won't find that guy if they really think that player is needed.

I agree. If they think they have a need for that type of player, they will find him. Lucic or someone else.
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From what I saw in the last game, granted I couldn't see it all, Lucic got better as the game went on. Positioning, making the smart play, etc. Still slow, but you sure notice when he's out there.

The hope is that he can be somewhat of a guy that Corey Perry is, without the team parties. :lol: And he certainly isn't at Perry's level of scoring, but he could bring that vet experience and dirtiness...er toughness. The Blues lack that element currently.
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somni wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:47 pm From what I saw in the last game, granted I couldn't see it all, Lucic got better as the game went on. Positioning, making the smart play, etc.
That was Jim Montgomery's take as well.
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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:15 pm Also worth noting is that Mailloux can now be in the mix of those who can drop the mitts.
Yeah I heard that, he might have some sneaky frenchy toughness like a Marc Bergevin.
Mailloux is willing to drop the mitts but isn't very good at it up until now. The Blues best fighter might be Parayko. Lucic would be a nice addition if he has any hockey left in him.
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Sudsy 11 wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:52 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:15 pm Also worth noting is that Mailloux can now be in the mix of those who can drop the mitts.
Yeah I heard that, he might have some sneaky frenchy toughness like a Marc Bergevin.
Mailloux is willing to drop the mitts but isn't very good at it up until now. The Blues best fighter might be Parayko. Lucic would be a nice addition if he has any hockey left in him.
Parayko isn’t very good at fighting. He’s ok
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Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:33 pm
dhsux wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:10 pm
Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:14 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Old_Goat wrote: 24 Sep 2025 17:21 pm I agree. Neighbors, Tucker & Schenn bring enough of a physical protection for the youngsters in today's modern NHL.
They're all small dudes (6'1 200ish); and the Captain doesn't need to be fighting much, Neighbours doesn't need to risk an injury in a fight (concussion, broken hand, etc). They need a large heavyweight or at least a capable middleweight.
This is the important part. If the Blues truly want to push for the playoffs, they need a regular season guy to take the lead on this stuff. Army said it pretty flat out, there aren't many teams that can shove the Blues around, but there are 3-4 that aren't necessarily worried about the physical side when playing the Blues. Lucic is there to possibly cover those basis. If that is the truth, then playing Lucic sparingly like in a Reeves role isn't the worst thing, assuming Lucic is on board with that and he isn't a Reeves level anchor. If the Blues are going to be a playoff team, they have 2 challenges in front of them. Getting the young guys to make big strides, and getting the team to be relatively healthy at the end. I don't want to hear that Schenn had to play in the playoffs again with broken ribs because he's our wake the F up guy on the ice. Tucker seemed to take some of that responsibility last year, but we don't need to see his face caved in either. And Neighbours is approaching the too valuable to risk injury category.

This is the most reasonable thoughts on Lucic. He isn’t taking anybody’s spot. He would be the last man on the roster, probably instead of a Joseph/Texier. Unless he is way more than we think, he’s would play 25-30 games a year. Guys like Wilson, Olivier, Rempe, Stanley etc run amuck and we don’t need Schenn and Neighbours stepping up and taking that on.

The Blues could get through 60 games without him but the other 20, Lucic would have a role. 25 games, 10-12 minutes a game, would be a good break for our stand up, middle weight guys.

If Lucic doesn’t have that game in him any more, I would hope Army finds someone else for that role.
Please don't lessen the importance of the last spot.

Nobody is lessening the importance of anyone. DA and Monty must have seen a need for a Lucic type or why in the heck would they have signed him to the PTO. Whatever those two decide is fine with me. I don’t care if Lucic is here or not. I do see a limited need for him. Let’s just see what happens.
That's fine.

Just don't tell me he's not taking a spot.

He is.
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If he would agree to it, sign him to a league minimum contract and send him down to really try to get up to game speed. He will pass through waivers and not count against the cap unless he's called up. If nothing else he can teach the kids how to party and keep their pimp hand strong.
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dhsux wrote: 24 Sep 2025 20:01 pm
Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:33 pm
dhsux wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:10 pm
Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:14 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Old_Goat wrote: 24 Sep 2025 17:21 pm I agree. Neighbors, Tucker & Schenn bring enough of a physical protection for the youngsters in today's modern NHL.
They're all small dudes (6'1 200ish); and the Captain doesn't need to be fighting much, Neighbours doesn't need to risk an injury in a fight (concussion, broken hand, etc). They need a large heavyweight or at least a capable middleweight.
This is the important part. If the Blues truly want to push for the playoffs, they need a regular season guy to take the lead on this stuff. Army said it pretty flat out, there aren't many teams that can shove the Blues around, but there are 3-4 that aren't necessarily worried about the physical side when playing the Blues. Lucic is there to possibly cover those basis. If that is the truth, then playing Lucic sparingly like in a Reeves role isn't the worst thing, assuming Lucic is on board with that and he isn't a Reeves level anchor. If the Blues are going to be a playoff team, they have 2 challenges in front of them. Getting the young guys to make big strides, and getting the team to be relatively healthy at the end. I don't want to hear that Schenn had to play in the playoffs again with broken ribs because he's our wake the F up guy on the ice. Tucker seemed to take some of that responsibility last year, but we don't need to see his face caved in either. And Neighbours is approaching the too valuable to risk injury category.

This is the most reasonable thoughts on Lucic. He isn’t taking anybody’s spot. He would be the last man on the roster, probably instead of a Joseph/Texier. Unless he is way more than we think, he’s would play 25-30 games a year. Guys like Wilson, Olivier, Rempe, Stanley etc run amuck and we don’t need Schenn and Neighbours stepping up and taking that on.

The Blues could get through 60 games without him but the other 20, Lucic would have a role. 25 games, 10-12 minutes a game, would be a good break for our stand up, middle weight guys.

If Lucic doesn’t have that game in him any more, I would hope Army finds someone else for that role.
Please don't lessen the importance of the last spot.

Nobody is lessening the importance of anyone. DA and Monty must have seen a need for a Lucic type or why in the heck would they have signed him to the PTO. Whatever those two decide is fine with me. I don’t care if Lucic is here or not. I do see a limited need for him. Let’s just see what happens.
That's fine.

Just don't tell me he's not taking a spot.

He is.
He’s not taking any spot of importance. Lucic is a Monty want without a doubt. Monty is not a fan of a couple the guys that Lucic is battling with so as long as he shows a pulse, even with the current groin issue it might be enough for Monty.
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dhsux wrote: 24 Sep 2025 20:01 pm
Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:33 pm
dhsux wrote: 24 Sep 2025 19:10 pm
Whatashame wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:14 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 24 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Old_Goat wrote: 24 Sep 2025 17:21 pm I agree. Neighbors, Tucker & Schenn bring enough of a physical protection for the youngsters in today's modern NHL.
They're all small dudes (6'1 200ish); and the Captain doesn't need to be fighting much, Neighbours doesn't need to risk an injury in a fight (concussion, broken hand, etc). They need a large heavyweight or at least a capable middleweight.
This is the important part. If the Blues truly want to push for the playoffs, they need a regular season guy to take the lead on this stuff. Army said it pretty flat out, there aren't many teams that can shove the Blues around, but there are 3-4 that aren't necessarily worried about the physical side when playing the Blues. Lucic is there to possibly cover those basis. If that is the truth, then playing Lucic sparingly like in a Reeves role isn't the worst thing, assuming Lucic is on board with that and he isn't a Reeves level anchor. If the Blues are going to be a playoff team, they have 2 challenges in front of them. Getting the young guys to make big strides, and getting the team to be relatively healthy at the end. I don't want to hear that Schenn had to play in the playoffs again with broken ribs because he's our wake the F up guy on the ice. Tucker seemed to take some of that responsibility last year, but we don't need to see his face caved in either. And Neighbours is approaching the too valuable to risk injury category.

This is the most reasonable thoughts on Lucic. He isn’t taking anybody’s spot. He would be the last man on the roster, probably instead of a Joseph/Texier. Unless he is way more than we think, he’s would play 25-30 games a year. Guys like Wilson, Olivier, Rempe, Stanley etc run amuck and we don’t need Schenn and Neighbours stepping up and taking that on.

The Blues could get through 60 games without him but the other 20, Lucic would have a role. 25 games, 10-12 minutes a game, would be a good break for our stand up, middle weight guys.

If Lucic doesn’t have that game in him any more, I would hope Army finds someone else for that role.
Please don't lessen the importance of the last spot.

Nobody is lessening the importance of anyone. DA and Monty must have seen a need for a Lucic type or why in the heck would they have signed him to the PTO. Whatever those two decide is fine with me. I don’t care if Lucic is here or not. I do see a limited need for him. Let’s just see what happens.
That's fine.

Just don't tell me he's not taking a spot.

He is.
Not a very desirable spot, I don't really care if he gets the last spot or not but if we fill that spot its not going to be with anyone good or young probably. Likely nobody good and/or young even wants that spot.

If he does get the spot the biggest change would be in cap space as he would hold down the press box spot for cheaper unless he plays so well they can't not play him in which case that is a win.
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dhsux wrote: 24 Sep 2025 17:51 pm
skilles wrote: 24 Sep 2025 17:39 pm The spot Lucic would get has nothing to do with youngsters, If it is thought one of our young players/prospects was best served playing NHL games then they will/would be Lucic or no Lucic.
OK....But he's taking SOMEBODIES spot. You do agree?

Hey if the powers to be feel his "presence' is this important I'll defer.

I do not.
Spots are earned, not "taken."

Competition will bring out the best, especially for those fighting for the bottom few positions.
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