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3dender wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:08 am Did anyone here actually listen to the interview? Brown and Marmol didn't sound angry at all. Seemed like they were trying to be pretty diplomatic but also transparent. It did not appear pre-meditated or calculated, and it acually felt like they had not considered at all how this might be portrayed in the media.

My overarching takeaway is not actually at all about JW, it's about how thoughtless and dumb Marmol/Brown are to say things like this without any apparent care for the consequences. It literally cannot accomplish one productive thing, and will likely lead to multiple downsides both for the player and the team. Cause most human beings simply don't respond to well to public humiliation.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:26 am

3dender wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:08 am Did anyone here actually listen to the interview? Brown and Marmol didn't sound angry at all. Seemed like they were trying to be pretty diplomatic but also transparent. It did not appear pre-meditated or calculated, and it acually felt like they had not considered at all how this might be portrayed in the media.

My overarching takeaway is not actually at all about JW, it's about how thoughtless and dumb Marmol/Brown are to say things like this without any apparent care for the consequences. It literally cannot accomplish one productive thing, and will likely lead to multiple downsides both for the player and the team. Cause most human beings simply don't respond to well to public humiliation.

What did Marmol say?

rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:29 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:26 am

3dender wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:08 am Did anyone here actually listen to the interview? Brown and Marmol didn't sound angry at all. Seemed like they were trying to be pretty diplomatic but also transparent. It did not appear pre-meditated or calculated, and it acually felt like they had not considered at all how this might be portrayed in the media.

My overarching takeaway is not actually at all about JW, it's about how thoughtless and dumb Marmol/Brown are to say things like this without any apparent care for the consequences. It literally cannot accomplish one productive thing, and will likely lead to multiple downsides both for the player and the team. Cause most human beings simply don't respond to well to public humiliation.

What did Marmol say?

From Bernie:

OLI MARMOL: “Because there's a combination of talent, but also I do feel, to what Brownie said earlier, there's going to be buy-in, and there's a level of aptitude there that will allow for it.

“He's young, and when you first get here, it's easy to have success. That's why I love when talking to Yadi [Molina] and Albert [Pujols) and these guys have been around for a while, man, like they'll tell you, getting to the big leagues isn't the hard part as staying at the big league level. Because once these [pitchers] start to figure you out, it's very difficult to continue to flip the script and prove that you can stay.

“So Walker did have a little bit of success when he first came up here, and once they know how to pitch you, they just double down on that until you prove that you can combat it, and he hasn't shown the ability to do that yet.

“So I feel like there's enough talent there where I'm nowhere close to giving up on Jordan Walker".

Melville wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:29 am

3dender wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:08 am Did anyone here actually listen to the interview? Brown and Marmol didn't sound angry at all. Seemed like they were trying to be pretty diplomatic but also transparent. It did not appear pre-meditated or calculated, and it acually felt like they had not considered at all how this might be portrayed in the media.

My overarching takeaway is not actually at all about JW, it's about how thoughtless and dumb Marmol/Brown are to say things like this without any apparent care for the consequences. It literally cannot accomplish one productive thing, and will likely lead to multiple downsides both for the player and the team. Cause most human beings simply don't respond to well to public humiliation.

Brown did not say one word without prior knowledge, planning, and approval from The Marmot.
Incredibly stupid on their part.
Funny thing is that in trying to back the bus over Walker, they exposed their own incompetence behind the wheel.
Walker may or may not be on his way out the door - but they certainly are.
Easiest decision Bloom will make all off-season.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:29 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:26 am

3dender wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:08 am Did anyone here actually listen to the interview? Brown and Marmol didn't sound angry at all. Seemed like they were trying to be pretty diplomatic but also transparent. It did not appear pre-meditated or calculated, and it acually felt like they had not considered at all how this might be portrayed in the media.

My overarching takeaway is not actually at all about JW, it's about how thoughtless and dumb Marmol/Brown are to say things like this without any apparent care for the consequences. It literally cannot accomplish one productive thing, and will likely lead to multiple downsides both for the player and the team. Cause most human beings simply don't respond to well to public humiliation.

What did Marmol say?

From Bernie:

OLI MARMOL: “Because there's a combination of talent, but also I do feel, to what Brownie said earlier, there's going to be buy-in, and there's a level of aptitude there that will allow for it.

“He's young, and when you first get here, it's easy to have success. That's why I love when talking to Yadi [Molina] and Albert [Pujols) and these guys have been around for a while, man, like they'll tell you, getting to the big leagues isn't the hard part as staying at the big league level. Because once these [pitchers] start to figure you out, it's very difficult to continue to flip the script and prove that you can stay.

“So Walker did have a little bit of success when he first came up here, and once they know how to pitch you, they just double down on that until you prove that you can combat it, and he hasn't shown the ability to do that yet.

“So I feel like there's enough talent there where I'm nowhere close to giving up on Jordan Walker".

Gee, some on here have been saying this since the (censored) on CT have claimed the Cards ruined him.



Absolutely nothing wrong with what Oli said...

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:25 am

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 07:17 am

imadangman wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 23:20 pm Maybe Walker is just kind of a stupid guy

On the contrary, Jordan Walker is highly intelligent.

How the [fork] do you know?

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:48 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:25 am

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 07:17 am

imadangman wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 23:20 pm Maybe Walker is just kind of a stupid guy

On the contrary, Jordan Walker is highly intelligent.

How the [fork] do you know?

Walker has maintained a 3.98 GPA in the classroom. He has signed a National Letter of Intent to play baseball on scholarship at Duke University, but is projected as an early round selection in June’s Major League Baseball draft. A member of the National Honor Society, Walker has donated his time as a peer tutor and has volunteered as a youth baseball coach.

https://playeroftheyear.gatorade.com/wi ... lker/37792

It is all at your fingertips, buddy.

cardstatman wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 22:14 pm If it is true, and has been going on for quite some time, then he absolutely should say it.

Brant Brown's job is on the line, too. If Walker isn't doing his part, why should Brown be fired for it?

On the other hand, if it is not true, then Brown's job should be on the line.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:27 am Good for him, I'm an even bigger fan of BBnow for telling it like it is.

J. Walker got to the majors based on his raw talent.

BUT

It appears from reading BB's comments he's not open to coaching and may even be a bit hard headed (surprising from such a smart person).

He's not going to make it in MLB w/that attitude.

ramfandan wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:59 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:27 am Good for him, I'm an even bigger fan of BBnow for telling it like it is.

J. Walker got to the majors based on his raw talent.

BUT

It appears from reading BB's comments he's not open to coaching and may even be a bit hard headed (surprising from such a smart person).

He's not going to make it in MLB w/that attitude.

I have encountered several people in my long lifetime who are 'smart' meaning intelligent but who displayed stubbornness . They thought they always knew what was best for themselves . He may be that type.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 08:25 am

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 07:17 am

imadangman wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 23:20 pm Maybe Walker is just kind of a stupid guy

On the contrary, Jordan Walker is highly intelligent.

How the [fork] do you know?

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025 09:14 am Being highly educated doesn’t guarantee real world smarts. Walker looks like a deer in the headlights on the field and he was that same no confidence doe eyed kid when I met him.