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Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 12:26 pm
by Mort Gage
rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:13 pm
Since June 1st:
Gorman
201 PA's
12 HR
33 RBI
.249 .353 .491 .845
Burly
303 PA
12 HR
44 RBI
.298 .350 .489 .839
Other than BA Gorman has been the slightly more productive hitter since June 1st so I'd drop him as your comp and just stick to Walker.
I'm taking Burly over any Cardinals hitter other than maybe Donovan in a high leverage, game on the line, situation. Whom would you take on the Cardinals?
You might want to take:
WillyC High Leverage
.313 .352 .513 .865
over
Burly High Leverage
.288 .352 .363 .714
But.....but......but still!
If you don't agree with me about Burleson I'll get really sad and start another five threads about him tomorrow as revenge!
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 12:27 pm
by rockondlouie
Mort Gage wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:26 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:13 pm
Since June 1st:
Gorman
201 PA's
12 HR
33 RBI
.249 .353 .491 .845
Burly
303 PA
12 HR
44 RBI
.298 .350 .489 .839
Other than BA Gorman has been the slightly more productive hitter since June 1st so I'd drop him as your comp and just stick to Walker.
I'm taking Burly over any Cardinals hitter other than maybe Donovan in a high leverage, game on the line, situation. Whom would you take on the Cardinals?
You might want to take:
WillyC High Leverage
.313 .352 .513 .865
over
Burly High Leverage
.288 .352 .363 .714
But.....but......but still!
If you don't agree with me about Burleson I'll get really sad and start another five threads about him tomorrow as revenge!
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 12:46 pm
by Absolut
Mort Gage wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:26 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 12:13 pm
Since June 1st:
Gorman
201 PA's
12 HR
33 RBI
.249 .353 .491 .845
Burly
303 PA
12 HR
44 RBI
.298 .350 .489 .839
Other than BA Gorman has been the slightly more productive hitter since June 1st so I'd drop him as your comp and just stick to Walker.
I'm taking Burly over any Cardinals hitter other than maybe Donovan in a high leverage, game on the line, situation. Whom would you take on the Cardinals?
You might want to take:
WillyC High Leverage
.313 .352 .513 .865
over
Burly High Leverage
.288 .352 .363 .714
But.....but......but still!
If you don't agree with me about Burleson I'll get really sad and start another five threads about him tomorrow as revenge!
Foe no you didn’t
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 15:08 pm
by JDW
Haven't read thru (why would I) but someone the other day said something along the line of, "where would the Cards be without Burly," to which my guess would be just about the same exact place they are now or possibly better.
Why? Well, a +1.7 bWAR to this point in the season might have also been done or exceeded if Church had been in place of Burly all season. We don't know, but my guess is JJW would currently have better than a +1.7 bWAR if he'd have been with the Cards all year instead of Burly.
Cut down WAR all you want, be it takes into account much more than just BA which is what some still seem to gravitate to.
Actually IF the Cards hadn't given Walker the leash all season to once again struggle, and would have started the season with 2 more competent SP's than Mikolas and Fedde, it's quite possible they're right in the middle of the current playoff push.
Kinda funny, but before Sunday's game, they mentioned how the Cards were 5.5 games behind the Wild Card, while on the same date in 2011, the Cards were 10.5 games back of the Wild Card.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 15:35 pm
by Shady
JDW wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 15:08 pm
Haven't read thru (why would I) but someone the other day said something along the line of, "where would the Cards be without Burly," to which my guess would be just about the same exact place they are now or possibly better.
Why? Well, a +1.7 bWAR to this point in the season might have also been done or exceeded if Church had been in place of Burly all season. We don't know, but my guess is JJW would currently have better than a +1.7 bWAR if he'd have been with the Cards all year instead of Burly.
Cut down WAR all you want, be it takes into account much more than just BA which is what some still seem to gravitate to.
Actually IF the Cards hadn't given Walker the leash all season to once again struggle, and would have started the season with 2 more competent SP's than Mikolas and Fedde, it's quite possible they're right in the middle of the current playoff push.
Kinda funny, but before Sunday's game, they mentioned how the Cards were 5.5 games behind the Wild Card, while on the same date in 2011, the Cards were 10.5 games back of the Wild Card.
" or possibly better". A totally asinine comment. By the way, JJW just might have some growing pains, initially, at the MLB level.