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Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 20:59 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Excellent post.
Thanks.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 21:18 pm
by ramfandan
82birds wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 18:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:09 am
Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am
A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
S. Gray's issues w/the heat is he can't get a good grip.
His decline is due to this ....36 yrs old in Nov.
Gray should say yes to a trade to a team with a roofed stadium.
air conditioned 70 degrees.
Then scratch Milwaukee from your wish list for Gray.
While it does have retractable roof, it is not air-conditioned. Can be hit/muggy inside when roof closed.
Overall summer temps less than St. Louis . Plus for a pitcher like Gray is he would not miss a start or be delayed due to rain.
So no rainouts. If a game is started with roof open , it can be closed in 10 min if unforeseen rain moved into area.
Doubt Brewers in market with a couple young starters in titration now plus rare for intra-divusion trades.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 22:30 pm
by 82birds
ramfandan wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 21:18 pm
82birds wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 18:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:09 am
Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am
A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
S. Gray's issues w/the heat is he can't get a good grip.
His decline is due to this ....36 yrs old in Nov.
Gray should say yes to a trade to a team with a roofed stadium.
air conditioned 70 degrees.
Then scratch Milwaukee from your wish list for Gray.
While it does have retractable roof, it is not air-conditioned. Can be hit/muggy inside when roof closed.
Overall summer temps less than St. Louis . Plus for a pitcher like Gray is he would not miss a start or be delayed due to rain.
So no rainouts. If a game is started with roof open , it can be closed in 10 min if unforeseen rain moved into area.
Doubt Brewers in market with a couple young starters in titration now plus rare for intra-divusion trades.
I didn't say Milwaukee.
there are others
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 22:35 pm
by icon
82birds wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 22:30 pm
ramfandan wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 21:18 pm
82birds wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 18:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:09 am
Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am
A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
S. Gray's issues w/the heat is he can't get a good grip.
His decline is due to this ....36 yrs old in Nov.
Gray should say yes to a trade to a team with a roofed stadium.
air conditioned 70 degrees.
Then scratch Milwaukee from your wish list for Gray.
While it does have retractable roof, it is not air-conditioned. Can be hit/muggy inside when roof closed.
Overall summer temps less than St. Louis . Plus for a pitcher like Gray is he would not miss a start or be delayed due to rain.
So no rainouts. If a game is started with roof open , it can be closed in 10 min if unforeseen rain moved into area.
Doubt Brewers in market with a couple young starters in titration now plus rare for intra-divusion trades.
I didn't say Milwaukee.
there are others
His brain is hardwired to the Brewers. Can't stop talking about them or the roof on their ugly ballpark.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 22:44 pm
by Quincy Varnish
Makes me wonder what the conditions will be like in the Vegas stadium… I’ll be surprised if they can get it under 85 degrees when it’s 115 outside.
Somehow the A’s AAA Vegas affiliate sells out every game with no roof, so I doubt attendance will suffer.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 22:49 pm
by scoutyjones2
DwaininAztec wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 19:54 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 10:35 am
And they walked up hill to school, both ways, without shoes.
Actually, I did. It was 1 mile to school. I lived on a long and steep hill which ran down to the "city" branch. Then went back up hill to the school I attended. We did wear shoes, but preferred that walk to taking the bus.
The conditioning being discussed here is entirely different forms of conditioning. When I was working with my father as a plumber or with the Natural Gas company as a laborer, I could handle the heat, hated the cold, but I was not powerfully built and strong for quick action power. Different kinds of strength. Also we tended to go to work earlier (5:00 a.m.) in extremely hot weather and get done about 2:00 p.m.
No one cares
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 08:02 am
by Absolut
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 22:44 pm
Makes me wonder what the conditions will be like in the Vegas stadium… I’ll be surprised if they can get it under 85 degrees when it’s 115 outside.
Somehow the A’s AAA Vegas affiliate sells out every game with no roof, so I doubt attendance will suffer.
Works in Phoenix.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 09:20 am
by rockondlouie
82birds wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 18:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:09 am
Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am
A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
S. Gray's issues w/the heat is he can't get a good grip.
His decline is due to this ....36 yrs old in Nov.
Gray should say yes to a trade to a team with a roofed stadium.
air conditioned 70 degrees.
Agreed
But he wants to stay close to home and no domes (Stl, Cinncy, Stl).
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 09:59 am
by JDW
Worldwide, the ten hottest years on record have all occurred in the last decade, with 2024 leading the way. I'd be very surprised if 2025 doesn't make it 11 for the last 11. What is considered accurate global records just go back to the 1880's, so just around 140 some years to go by, which if those were AB's, we'd considered it small sample size, ha.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 11:16 am
by General
HOUCARD wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 11:13 am
Conditioning is the key. If one is in top physical condition and hydrated, heat and humidity are irrelevant.
This is ridiculously wrong. Some people are do better in the heat and humidity than others. I am unable to function well in STL summers with the performance of my athletic activities being much worse and I’m going out early in the mornings. Meanwhile, my 62 yr old neighbor loves it and cuts his grass in the middle of the afternoon and has has for years.
Point is, some people are naturally able to thrive in these terrible conditions and some aren’t. No level of condition or hydration will make this weather “irrelevant” for many.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 11:32 am
by nebfan
Mikolas should never start on the road and Gray should never pitch on hot days especially day games. Those starts should go to someone from AAA like Mathews