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Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
by Cranny
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
by Mort Gage
FrankTheTank wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 17:45 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/ca ... 04697.html
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
Remaining home series are against the Pirates, As, Giants, Reds, and Brewers. They might end up around 2.2 million paid.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
by Cranny
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
by Cranny
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 13:46 pm
by Rojo Johnson
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
That is your best post of the year, Cranny.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:08 pm
by rezero
FrankTheTank wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 17:45 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/ca ... 04697.html
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
Can’t have too many articles on this topic, eh.
https://interact.stltoday.com/forums/v ... ?t=1515624
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
by Cranny
Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:46 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
That is your best post of the year, Cranny.
Got it, Rojo. The plan is to shrink the revenue to send a message to ownership and management. So they don't have as much money to invest in players. They'll have to improve with players coming through the system. Makes sense.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:18 pm
by desertrat23
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?
People are turning their backs on Bill DeWitt and John Mozeliak, who (despite what they think) are NOT the organization.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:27 pm
by desertrat23
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:46 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
That is your best post of the year, Cranny.
Got it, Rojo. The plan is to shrink the revenue to send a message to ownership and management. So they don't have as much money to invest in players. They'll have to improve with players coming through the system. Makes sense.
They’ll be fine. They can invest out of their three decades of profit and show the customers that it’s worth time and investment.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:39 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?
We boycott to send a message to the ownership, because it is very clear that money is the only-only- thing that they think about. Tens of thousands of Cardinals fans have done exactly that this year. We’ll see if they got the message or not.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm
by BrummerStealsHome
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?
Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:58 pm
by Cranny
BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?
Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.
Got it. Stay away from supporting the players on the field
who are working hard trying to win and be a wild card team.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 14:59 pm
by desertrat23
BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.
That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.
So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?
Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.
That’s reality. In Crannyworld Bill DeWitt IS the franchise, and we must show our loyalty for his accomplishments decades ago.
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 15:01 pm
by 45s
This business of “support” is not applicable.
One supports their alma mater, perhaps their former high school…certainly the kids/grandkids little league……..things with a personal connection…
Professional sports is transactional……there is no personal connection
The customer gives the organization money….the organization provides entertainment
when the entertainment is not worth the cost……the customer chooses not to spend
No one is “turning their back “ on anything…….it’s merely a consumer decision, like other consumer decisions that we all make everyday…
Re: Cardinals on pace for attendance futility not seen in 30 years
Posted: 23 Aug 2025 15:55 pm
by Cranny
45s wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 15:01 pm
This business of “support” is not applicable.
One supports their alma mater, perhaps their former high school…certainly the kids/grandkids little league……..things with a personal connection…
Professional sports is transactional……there is no personal connection
The customer gives the organization money….the organization provides entertainment
when the entertainment is not worth the cost……the customer chooses not to spend
No one is “turning their back “ on anything…….it’s merely a consumer decision, like other consumer decisions that we all make everyday…
The problem, 45s, is that there IS a personal connection by many fans to the St. Louis Cardinals. People are passionate about their home team. They're passionate about baseball. Look at the number of fans on CT, even in a "down" year. Some fans take it personally when they don't think the Cardinals spend enough on players. One poster even wanted to punch the POBO in the face. So it seems like more than just your favorite restaurant, your favorite store, etc. More than just a
"product".