No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Goot play ' em to hit 'em.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Cards have hit 121 rank 27 in MLB
Cards pitchers have given up 125 —also rank 27 ( only two teams have given up fewer.
——surprising balance. I expected it to be more lopsided.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Carp4Cy wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:26 pm Over 30 MLB players on pace to hit 30 HRs

Meanwhile
Burly isn't a 20 HR guy, neither is Noot
Gorman isn't even a 15 HR guy anymore. Neither is Winn, Herrera, Donny, Pages, Pozo etc. Walker and Scott barely hit any. We are 25th in HRs. None of those teams ahead of us in the HR rankings got shutout at Coors.

Willson is the only one with a decent shot to hit 20. And some of y'all want to dump his salary too. Where is the power and RBI hitting going to come from. Its not like the rest of the league doesn't have HR/RBI talent.
This whole roster is a joke at this level. And there is another thread I was just reading about who should be starting the next few years with almost the same roster. Which is likely. The St. Louis Pirates.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:55 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 20 Aug 2025 22:06 pm This team needs a complete overhaul.
Not a complete overhaul.

Winn is a keeper, we have a couple of decent young starters, some promising catchers, and Donovan is a good guy to have. But we do need to stop talking about 26 and rebuild for the long haul.

If things go well, the Cards might be worth watching in 2027 or 28.
Who are the decent young starters. The pitching staff is flat horrendous.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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JDW wrote: 21 Aug 2025 18:03 pm buuuuut, they sure are ahead of the Cards with team speed and SB's.
Adding Wetherholt and later Baez next year could go a long way to help the Cards close the gap. Maybe Church also to a lesser degree.
Have balanced power up and down the lineup with a good % of them that can force the issue on the bases.tals,
Last two games, Noot or Church on base. Guys with good speed.

Two batters later, they're still on first and have not made one attempt to steal second. It boggled my mind.

This team must run to manufacture runs but they play the station to station game instead.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Braund241 wrote: 21 Aug 2025 19:55 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:55 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 20 Aug 2025 22:06 pm This team needs a complete overhaul.
Not a complete overhaul.

Winn is a keeper, we have a couple of decent young starters, some promising catchers, and Donovan is a good guy to have. But we do need to stop talking about 26 and rebuild for the long haul.

If things go well, the Cards might be worth watching in 2027 or 28.
Who are the decent young starters. The pitching staff is flat horrendous.
Matthew Liberatore & Michael McGreevy.

No, they're not top of the rotation guys, but they're talented enough to be part of a good rotation. Add two top-notch starters, and a couple of power bats who can playin the outfield corners, and (Provided they don't lose any of their young contributors) this team could be good in 2027.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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alw80 wrote: 21 Aug 2025 08:36 am
CCard wrote: 21 Aug 2025 07:14 am
Carp4Cy wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:26 pm Over 30 MLB players on pace to hit 30 HRs

Meanwhile
Burly isn't a 20 HR guy, neither is Noot
Gorman isn't even a 15 HR guy anymore. Neither is Winn, Herrera, Donny, Pages, Pozo etc. Walker and Scott barely hit any. We are 25th in HRs. None of those teams ahead of us in the HR rankings got shutout at Coors.

Willson is the only one with a decent shot to hit 20. And some of y'all want to dump his salary too. Where is the power and RBI hitting going to come from. Its not like the rest of the league doesn't have HR/RBI talent.
Not to make excuses but they do play at Busch which tends to suppress homeruns somewhat. Plus other ballparks where some of them play that are homerun friendly.
Right, Busch hurts our bats but our SPs benefit which is why they are all having such great seasons.
LOL...not much gonna help this pitching staff.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Carp4Cy wrote: 21 Aug 2025 08:30 am
CCard wrote: 21 Aug 2025 07:14 am
Carp4Cy wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:26 pm Over 30 MLB players on pace to hit 30 HRs

Meanwhile
Burly isn't a 20 HR guy, neither is Noot
Gorman isn't even a 15 HR guy anymore. Neither is Winn, Herrera, Donny, Pages, Pozo etc. Walker and Scott barely hit any. We are 25th in HRs. None of those teams ahead of us in the HR rankings got shutout at Coors.

Willson is the only one with a decent shot to hit 20. And some of y'all want to dump his salary too. Where is the power and RBI hitting going to come from. Its not like the rest of the league doesn't have HR/RBI talent.
Not to make excuses but they do play at Busch which tends to suppress homeruns somewhat. Plus other ballparks where some of them play that are homerun friendly.
Our pitchers pitch in the exact same ballpark. How many home runs have they given up?
I don't know but you could look it up and post it instead of posting a question.
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Re: No one can even hit 20 HRs? Meanwhile Raleigh could hit 60, Judge, Ohtani, Schwarb 50

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Carp4Cy wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:26 pm Over 30 MLB players on pace to hit 30 HRs

Meanwhile
Burly isn't a 20 HR guy, neither is Noot
Gorman isn't even a 15 HR guy anymore. Neither is Winn, Herrera, Donny, Pages, Pozo etc. Walker and Scott barely hit any. We are 25th in HRs. None of those teams ahead of us in the HR rankings got shutout at Coors.

Willson is the only one with a decent shot to hit 20. And some of y'all want to dump his salary too. Where is the power and RBI hitting going to come from. Its not like the rest of the league doesn't have HR/RBI talent.
Many of the Cards recent HR hitting prospects have been high K guys. Gomez, Garcia, Gorman. I think some of the Cards current MiLB HR hitters are also high K guys. Power plus contact equals success.
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