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Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 13:35 pm
by Goldfan
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:33 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:10 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?
That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..
Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.
I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago??? :lol: :lol:
Say something positive, Goldfan. Anything. Come on, you can do it. One….Two….Three…
Cranny, didn’t your FO throw in the towel on the season?? They even gave up. If they were concerned about winning and getting back into WC contention would they have not brought in some much needed talent?? So I’m confused about what your motivation is?? Seeing the youngsters in a Cards uniform on the ole ball diamond?? You admit you don’t care about what the manager does. You don’t care about winning so much. You don’t care that Busch stadium has less fans in it than the 30 wins Rockies home stadium. So why do you watch this team??
Perhaps reading/comprehension not your strong point. HAVE BP ACTIVE IN 7TH INNING WITH MILES PITCHING. If you don’t need them, you don’t need them. Assume you’ll need a reliever at some point to finish game…….. ::crazya:: ::crazya::

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 13:43 pm
by Cranny
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:33 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:10 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?
That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..
Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.
I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago??? :lol: :lol:
Say something positive, Goldfan. Anything. Come on, you can do it. One….Two….Three…
Cranny, didn’t your FO throw in the towel on the season?? They even gave up. If they were concerned about winning and getting back into WC contention would they have not brought in some much needed talent?? So I’m confused about what your motivation is?? Seeing the youngsters in a Cards uniform on the ole ball diamond?? You admit you don’t care about what the manager does. You don’t care about winning so much. You don’t care that Busch stadium has less fans in it than the 30 wins Rockies home stadium. So why do you watch this team??
Because I enjoy watching good pitching performances, good batting performances, good defensive performances, good base-running performances, etc. And there are some of those in every game.

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 14:19 pm
by Goldfan
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:33 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:10 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?
That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..
Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.
I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago??? :lol: :lol:
Say something positive, Goldfan. Anything. Come on, you can do it. One….Two….Three…
Cranny, didn’t your FO throw in the towel on the season?? They even gave up. If they were concerned about winning and getting back into WC contention would they have not brought in some much needed talent?? So I’m confused about what your motivation is?? Seeing the youngsters in a Cards uniform on the ole ball diamond?? You admit you don’t care about what the manager does. You don’t care about winning so much. You don’t care that Busch stadium has less fans in it than the 30 wins Rockies home stadium. So why do you watch this team??
Because I enjoy watching good pitching performances, good batting performances, good defensive performances, good base-running performances, etc. And there are some of those in every game.
Those are all performed by a team within a game to produce a winning outcome…..with the winning outcome being the pursuit of the team and just about every fan I known. If you just like watching someone make a play, pitch, or hit…..why come here and talk about Cardinals Baseball?

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
by LCA1951
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
by Cardinals4Life
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 15:16 pm
by hullie
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!
Nah. You would suck

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 15:18 pm
by hullie
This is the worst roster Oli has had since he’s been here. Hes above .500. He’s doing a good job

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 15:29 pm
by Cranny
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:19 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:33 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:10 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?
That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..
Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.
I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago??? :lol: :lol:
Say something positive, Goldfan. Anything. Come on, you can do it. One….Two….Three…
Cranny, didn’t your FO throw in the towel on the season?? They even gave up. If they were concerned about winning and getting back into WC contention would they have not brought in some much needed talent?? So I’m confused about what your motivation is?? Seeing the youngsters in a Cards uniform on the ole ball diamond?? You admit you don’t care about what the manager does. You don’t care about winning so much. You don’t care that Busch stadium has less fans in it than the 30 wins Rockies home stadium. So why do you watch this team??
Because I enjoy watching good pitching performances, good batting performances, good defensive performances, good base-running performances, etc. And there are some of those in every game.
Those are all performed by a team within a game to produce a winning outcome…..with the winning outcome being the pursuit of the team and just about every fan I known. If you just like watching someone make a play, pitch, or hit…..why come here and talk about Cardinals Baseball?
Because sometimes there's a post or two about those types of plays. Plus it's a great place to look for player movements.

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 15:33 pm
by JohnnyMO
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!
Surely you don’t actually believe that?

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 16:03 pm
by ramfandan
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
Actually in that scenario , I can think of a possible reason he didn’t have s guy up and throwing.
A. Oli’s pen had his top 3 guys unavailable due to recent use.
Thus he was limited . B. Miles was rolling along well so if you warm up a guy and Fon’t use him that inning, he maybe I’d toast too. Warming up a guy and then sitting him often doesn’t work to get him up a 2nd time. So Oli may have factored both into his decision to hold off there.
Limited guys plus Miles not being shaky. It was Gorman’s errant throw that messed up the inning not Miles pitching.

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 16:22 pm
by Cardinals4Life
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:33 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!
Surely you don’t actually believe that?
I do. And don't call me Shirley! :D :wink:

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 16:23 pm
by Cardinals4Life
hullie wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:16 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!
Nah. You would suck
Thanks

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 18:54 pm
by JohnnyMO
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 16:22 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:33 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!
Surely you don’t actually believe that?
I do. And don't call me Shirley! :D :wink:
Do you have an experience coaching or leading people?

You read this place, right? Not even most of the posters here could manage an mlb game.

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 18:56 pm
by Cranny
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 18:54 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 16:22 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:33 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!
Surely you don’t actually believe that?
I do. And don't call me Shirley! :D :wink:
Do you have an experience coaching or leading people?

You read this place, right? Not even most of the posters here could manage an mlb game.
Very true. Not even close. Although some actually think they could, and that's what's funny.

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 20:08 pm
by LCA1951
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 15:05 pm
LCA1951 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:22 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.
Exciting win, though!
Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though
That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.
Why don't YOU apply? :lol: :lol: :lol: Team's response
I promise you I would be a better manager than Marmol. Most people would!

Don't embarrass yourself.

Re: Forever handicapped by Oli

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 20:13 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Hopefully not after this season. Forever is a long time.
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