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ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 23:07 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

I think it is more complicated than that. I think they also need to add, Bernal, Hjerpe, Blaze Jordan and Thompson when he comes off the 60 day IL as well. Since both Crooks and Church have to be added anyway this winter, it seems like they make the most sense to bring up this September. But, anyone that doesn't need to be added is unlikely to come up because they won't want to use the roster spot for that player, i.e. Wetherholdt. He will get added to the roster next spring when they can move one of Roby or Hjerpe back onto the 60 day IL.

Since they have at least 6 players to add, 3 open spots and plus Mikolas takes care of 4 of them. So they need at least 2 more to get to 40 but really 4 more to create room. Sianni, Hampson and Koperniak are obvious ones to get 3 of the 4 open. There are several pitchers that could go. But, if they put Wetherholdt on now, it creates another spot they lose this winter. I don't think they will do that, no matter how much we all want to see Wetherholdt.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

HorseTrader wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 19:13 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

Pages won't happen. Pages and Pozo will be the catchers coming out of ST next year. Now once they are sure that one of the minor leagues is ready, they will change. Neither one is even arby eligible and I'd think they both have options left, so why cut one of them.

Clubmaker2 wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 09:13 am mlb playing time is a resource. Cards have Crooks and Bernal time table coming at them. If you dont get Crooks at bats asap you will have them stacked on top of each other. And you would cause this because of Pages? lol. No, Crooks needs at bats in 2026 because you hopefully are having to give mlb at bats to Bernal beginning of 2027.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 08:52 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 19:13 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

Pages won't happen. Pages and Pozo will be the catchers coming out of ST next year. Now once they are sure that one of the minor leagues is ready, they will change. Neither one is even arby eligible and I'd think they both have options left, so why cut one of them.

Disagree HT

I think they move on from the useless Pages (.210 .255 .330 .585) who's also overrated defensively and in calling a game.

Crooks/Pozo should be catchers in 2026, holding down the fort until Bernal is ready.

StlMike1969 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 12:40 pm

HorseTrader wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 12:27 pm They will have to keep some 40 man slots open for players who they need to protect from the Rule 5 draft. I don't believe any of the players you named are on the 40 man roster. So I doubt any of them will come up in Sept UNLESS they are among those who will need to be Rule 5 protected this year

This. They are not going to do anything other than roll with what they have until the Bloom conference announcing full control. Afterwards, we will have to see how the off season plays out. With the lockout looming I think teams are going to be very frugal and conservative on what they ahve and what they let go. The new guys will just have to wait until ST to get a look see.

HorseTrader wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 12:42 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 08:52 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 19:13 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

Pages won't happen. Pages and Pozo will be the catchers coming out of ST next year. Now once they are sure that one of the minor leagues is ready, they will change. Neither one is even arby eligible and I'd think they both have options left, so why cut one of them.

Disagree HT

I think they move on from the useless Pages (.210 .255 .330 .585) who's also overrated defensively and in calling a game.

Crooks/Pozo should be catchers in 2026, holding down the fort until Bernal is ready.

You could be right, I just don't seem them dumping him until mid to late ST at the earlies. Now as an add into a trade this winter, maybe

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 08:52 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 19:13 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

Pages won't happen. Pages and Pozo will be the catchers coming out of ST next year. Now once they are sure that one of the minor leagues is ready, they will change. Neither one is even arby eligible and I'd think they both have options left, so why cut one of them.

Disagree HT

I think they move on from the useless Pages (.210 .255 .330 .585) who's also overrated defensively and in calling a game.

Crooks/Pozo should be catchers in 2026, holding down the fort until Bernal is ready.

82birds wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 13:16 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 08:52 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 19:13 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

Pages won't happen. Pages and Pozo will be the catchers coming out of ST next year. Now once they are sure that one of the minor leagues is ready, they will change. Neither one is even arby eligible and I'd think they both have options left, so why cut one of them.

Disagree HT

I think they move on from the useless Pages (.210 .255 .330 .585) who's also overrated defensively and in calling a game.

Crooks/Pozo should be catchers in 2026, holding down the fort until Bernal is ready.

that would be my preference also

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 14:37 pm

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 14:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

Agree.
Bernie recently did a podcast and mocked "the 40-man roster issue" as a red herring. I was glad, as every time I see it raised, there are numerous players that aren't part of the future plan on that roster. It's another "the sun was in my eyes."

It's a friggin joke when they use that "40 man" bullshildt excuse.

I'd bet the majority of the players I listed will be long gone once C. Bloom takes over.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 07:08 am

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 23:07 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

I think it is more complicated than that. I think they also need to add, Bernal, Hjerpe, Blaze Jordan and Thompson when he comes off the 60 day IL as well. Since both Crooks and Church have to be added anyway this winter, it seems like they make the most sense to bring up this September. But, anyone that doesn't need to be added is unlikely to come up because they won't want to use the roster spot for that player, i.e. Wetherholdt. He will get added to the roster next spring when they can move one of Roby or Hjerpe back onto the 60 day IL.

Since they have at least 6 players to add, 3 open spots and plus Mikolas takes care of 4 of them. So they need at least 2 more to get to 40 but really 4 more to create room. Sianni, Hampson and Koperniak are obvious ones to get 3 of the 4 open. There are several pitchers that could go. But, if they put Wetherholdt on now, it creates another spot they lose this winter. I don't think they will do that, no matter how much we all want to see Wetherholdt.

Look at the 40 man roster. It won't be that hard to come up with 2 spots- or more if that's what is needed.

Cusecards wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 15:20 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 07:08 am

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 23:07 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

I think it is more complicated than that. I think they also need to add, Bernal, Hjerpe, Blaze Jordan and Thompson when he comes off the 60 day IL as well. Since both Crooks and Church have to be added anyway this winter, it seems like they make the most sense to bring up this September. But, anyone that doesn't need to be added is unlikely to come up because they won't want to use the roster spot for that player, i.e. Wetherholdt. He will get added to the roster next spring when they can move one of Roby or Hjerpe back onto the 60 day IL.

Since they have at least 6 players to add, 3 open spots and plus Mikolas takes care of 4 of them. So they need at least 2 more to get to 40 but really 4 more to create room. Sianni, Hampson and Koperniak are obvious ones to get 3 of the 4 open. There are several pitchers that could go. But, if they put Wetherholdt on now, it creates another spot they lose this winter. I don't think they will do that, no matter how much we all want to see Wetherholdt.

Look at the 40 man roster. It won't be that hard to come up with 2 spots- or more if that's what is needed.

Agree!
MM for certain with Roby going to the 60 day IL.
The others should be pretty obvious.

icon wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 15:37 pm

Cusecards wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 15:20 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 07:08 am

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 23:07 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

I think it is more complicated than that. I think they also need to add, Bernal, Hjerpe, Blaze Jordan and Thompson when he comes off the 60 day IL as well. Since both Crooks and Church have to be added anyway this winter, it seems like they make the most sense to bring up this September. But, anyone that doesn't need to be added is unlikely to come up because they won't want to use the roster spot for that player, i.e. Wetherholdt. He will get added to the roster next spring when they can move one of Roby or Hjerpe back onto the 60 day IL.

Since they have at least 6 players to add, 3 open spots and plus Mikolas takes care of 4 of them. So they need at least 2 more to get to 40 but really 4 more to create room. Sianni, Hampson and Koperniak are obvious ones to get 3 of the 4 open. There are several pitchers that could go. But, if they put Wetherholdt on now, it creates another spot they lose this winter. I don't think they will do that, no matter how much we all want to see Wetherholdt.

Look at the 40 man roster. It won't be that hard to come up with 2 spots- or more if that's what is needed.

Agree!
MM for certain with Roby going to the 60 day IL.
The others should be pretty obvious.

So tired of hearing about the "sacred" 40-man roster being tainted by some undeserving newcomer. If dead weight is sacred...

Cusecards wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 16:12 pm

icon wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 15:37 pm

Cusecards wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 15:20 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 07:08 am

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 23:07 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

I think it is more complicated than that. I think they also need to add, Bernal, Hjerpe, Blaze Jordan and Thompson when he comes off the 60 day IL as well. Since both Crooks and Church have to be added anyway this winter, it seems like they make the most sense to bring up this September. But, anyone that doesn't need to be added is unlikely to come up because they won't want to use the roster spot for that player, i.e. Wetherholdt. He will get added to the roster next spring when they can move one of Roby or Hjerpe back onto the 60 day IL.

Since they have at least 6 players to add, 3 open spots and plus Mikolas takes care of 4 of them. So they need at least 2 more to get to 40 but really 4 more to create room. Sianni, Hampson and Koperniak are obvious ones to get 3 of the 4 open. There are several pitchers that could go. But, if they put Wetherholdt on now, it creates another spot they lose this winter. I don't think they will do that, no matter how much we all want to see Wetherholdt.

Look at the 40 man roster. It won't be that hard to come up with 2 spots- or more if that's what is needed.

Agree!
MM for certain with Roby going to the 60 day IL.
The others should be pretty obvious.

So tired of hearing about the "sacred" 40-man roster being tainted by some undeserving newcomer. If dead weight is sacred...

Most teams have multiple borderline players on the 40 man roster.