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Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:14 am
by Basil Shabazz
OldRed wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 09:10 am
Lack of range the ability to come in on bunts was displayed in the Padres series.
Two things that you need to understand.
1. He needs reps at 3B
2. He will never be Nado defensively.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:25 am
by JuanAgosto
butsir01 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 07:31 am
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 00:15 am
Chitownredbird wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 22:34 pm
And play him where?
We have a plethora of DHs. He isn’t a 3B. He’s less of a liability at 2B but has negative range. Best position is probably LF but if the choice there is him or Herrera, I don’t think it’s him.
Course if we trade him, he’ll turn into Garcia.
Who is Garcia?
Adolis Garcia or Garcia y Vega little cigars.
Thanks. I was drawing a blank.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 10:49 am
by rightthinker4
southernblues wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm
Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
He has to play third base almost every day, the rest of this year. A rebuilding team needs to know which players to keep and which ones won’t be in their future plans,
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 10:53 am
by bccardsfan
rightthinker4 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 10:49 am
southernblues wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm
Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
He has to play third base almost every day, the rest of this year. A rebuilding team needs to know which players to keep and which ones won’t be in their future plans,
If his back is OK and he can do it, then I agree. We need to know if he is in the long-term plan or should be traded if possible.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 12:47 pm
by Lightning Rod
bccardsfan wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 10:53 am
rightthinker4 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 10:49 am
southernblues wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm
Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
He has to play third base almost every day, the rest of this year. A rebuilding team needs to know which players to keep and which ones won’t be in their future plans,
If his back is OK and he can do it, then I agree. We need to know if he is in the long-term plan or should be traded if possible.
What exactly is wrong with his back? If you've ever had back problems they are usually something that doesn't go away, many require surgery before they improve.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 14:31 pm
by Melville
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 09:14 am
OldRed wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 09:10 am
Lack of range the ability to come in on bunts was displayed in the Padres series.
Two things that you need to understand.
1. He needs reps at 3B
2. He will never be Nado defensively.
Coincidentally, Gorman is very much like Muncy.
Muncy has always been adequate defensively, big time LH power, .230 BA.
Gorman, of course, has the far better arm.
And Gorman is a vastly superior hitter at age 25 the Muncy was.
In Muncy is good enough to garner over 3500 PA's with the powerhouse Dodgers over the past 8 seasons, Gorman is more than good enough to fill a huge area of need in STL.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 14:50 pm
by Basil Shabazz
Well done, Mel. Muncy is an excellent upside comp for Gorman. If Gorman learns to work a count like Muncy, he would be an .800+ OPS force. No reason he couldn't play a comparable 3B to Muncy either.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 14:59 pm
by butsir01
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 09:25 am
butsir01 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 07:31 am
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 00:15 am
Chitownredbird wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 22:34 pm
And play him where?
We have a plethora of DHs. He isn’t a 3B. He’s less of a liability at 2B but has negative range. Best position is probably LF but if the choice there is him or Herrera, I don’t think it’s him.
Course if we trade him, he’ll turn into Garcia.
Who is Garcia?
Adolis Garcia or Garcia y Vega little cigars.
Thanks. I was drawing a blank.
Por nada, Juan. It was one of the few answers to anything relevant that I know.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 15:23 pm
by ecleme22
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 14:50 pm
Well done, Mel. Muncy is an excellent upside comp for Gorman. If Gorman learns to work a count like Muncy, he would be an .800+ OPS force. No reason he couldn't play a comparable 3B to Muncy either.
A good thing about Gorman is he walks.
That being said, I doubt he ever gets close to muncys elite walk rate.
Re: Gorman
Posted: 06 Aug 2025 15:42 pm
by Cardinals1964
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 08:22 am
Melville wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 08:14 am
Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 00:12 am
Gorman is only 25 years old. Cardinals only potential 30 HR guy on a Punch and Judy team.
If given 600 PA's, Gorman is a 25+ HR, 80 runs scored, 80+RBI, .240/.310 LH power hitter - with a lot of swing and miss.
Zero question about that.
My personal, impartial, agenda free, bias free guarantee - which is the best guarantee available anywhere.
Super Slo Mo said before the year began that Gorman would receive 500+ PA's this season.
Not going to happen.
Incredibly stupid mismanagement on his part.
I thought he was a UniKKKorn? 40 HRs at 2b?
He can't even play without hurting back year in, year out. He's not nimble enough at 3b. Never will see 600 ABs.
If Winn is still here, he's not playing 2b because Hurdy and JJ.
Look how Smellville capitulates on the KKKorn's expectations
Who is Hurdy?