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Re: Fedde to Braves

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:57 pm
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:06 pm Cards traded Fedde to Braves not sure what we got back yet.
Chicken and waffles?
50% off Lemon Pepper Wings at Magic City through the end of Fedde's time in Atlanta. 8)
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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cardstatman wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:14 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
This was no trade. It was a release of an asset which had about $10M of value 8 months ago.

Another $10M of assets down the tube on Mo's watch plus we lost 15 of the 20 games pitched by Fedde. That could have happened to another team instead of us.
By MLB transaction standard it was a trade, so mo did trade him. Lol

Your larger point is founded though. A salary dump officially being designated a trade.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
Someone would likely have picked him up for major league minimum. I have no doubt of that
as pitching is depleted. 280K for around 60 games is nothing. So the question is how much of a premium did the Braves pay to ensure they got him?
Their words,

"As part of the deal, the Cardinals will cover the majority of what remains of Fedde's $7.5 million salary for 2025, a source told ESPN."

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They will either get a little additional over prorated minimum of 280K or they will get a scrub player.

That's a far cry from a prospect who projects to maybe a utility player or reliever.

Either
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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Every nickel counts. Got as much production from Fedde as Edman on IL.

Another awesome job Mo.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:35 pm
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
Someone would likely have picked him up for major league minimum. I have no doubt of that
as pitching is depleted. 280K for around 60 games is nothing. So the question is how much of a premium did the Braves pay to ensure they got him?
Their words,

"As part of the deal, the Cardinals will cover the majority of what remains of Fedde's $7.5 million salary for 2025, a source told ESPN."

----
They will either get a little additional over prorated minimum of 280K or they will get a scrub player.

That's a far cry from a prospect who projects to maybe a utility player or reliever.

Either
Yep, I figured it out there are 63 days left in the season, so the minimum salary would come out to $257,419. I wonder how much the return would be from the Braves in cash. Unfortunately if it is less than $1 million, they don't have to disclose the amount from what I have heard.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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swatski wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:32 pm Player coming back is to be named “Worthless.”
Tell me MO’s not a game changer at GM!
Mel did say cards should keep Fedde and try to win easy obvious correct then if not they could trade him at the deadline for a better return than they could have in the offseason lol
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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LewisL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
jcgmoi wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:34 pm Per MLBTR and ESPN, the Cards will pick up the approximately $2.7M left on Fedde's salary.

Fedde will replace Grant Holmes, who was placed on the 60-day IL. Holmes gave up 4 runs in 4 innings last night. That's how hard up the Braves are for pitching.
Yeah, I was wondering why the Braves would even want Fedde, since they're practically out of the race.
would anyone be surprised if the braves flip him to either the cubs or brewers before 7/31?? not sure it really matters as fedde has shown what he is but it would be funny if that happened and he performed decently for the remainder of the season.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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If "cash considerations" means the Cardinals got some International Signing Pool money back from the Braves, this is about as good as the Cardinals were going to get for Fedde.

Maybe Mo/Bloom showed a hint of shrewdness in making the best of the debacle.

Per MLBTR
... the Cards will be covering the approximately $2.7MM remaining on Fedde’s $7.5MM salary for the 2025 season. The deal has been officially announced by the Braves, including the detail that the Cards will receive cash considerations or a player to be named later in return

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/ ... fedde.html
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
"ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez reporting the Cards will be covering the approximately $2.7MM remaining on Fedde’s $7.5MM salary for the 2025 season."
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals
https://x.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1949593907630834047

"The #Braves today acquired RHP Erick Fedde and cash considerations from the St. Louis Cardinals..."
https://x.com/Braves/status/1949590632579932546

"The Braves, who announced the trade on Sunday, will also receive cash considerations in the trade."
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/eric ... he%20trade.

STL has already paid what Fedde is owed up to this point of the season.
They are paying the Braves for the approximate balance remaining, according to current reporting.

Cleared up.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 21:26 pm
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
"ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez reporting the Cards will be covering the approximately $2.7MM remaining on Fedde’s $7.5MM salary for the 2025 season."
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals
https://x.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1949593907630834047

"The #Braves today acquired RHP Erick Fedde and cash considerations from the St. Louis Cardinals..."
https://x.com/Braves/status/1949590632579932546

"The Braves, who announced the trade on Sunday, will also receive cash considerations in the trade."
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/eric ... he%20trade.

STL has already paid what Fedde is owed up to this point of the season.
They are paying the Braves for the approximate balance remaining, according to current reporting.

Cleared up.
Do you even read the links you posted? Thought you were supposed to so smart. The link on Gonzalez, which is the link this all came from, says THE MAJORITY...NOT THE FULL AMOUNT. Like I already stated and explained thoroughly before.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 22:04 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 21:26 pm
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
"ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez reporting the Cards will be covering the approximately $2.7MM remaining on Fedde’s $7.5MM salary for the 2025 season."
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals
https://x.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1949593907630834047

"The #Braves today acquired RHP Erick Fedde and cash considerations from the St. Louis Cardinals..."
https://x.com/Braves/status/1949590632579932546

"The Braves, who announced the trade on Sunday, will also receive cash considerations in the trade."
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/eric ... he%20trade.

STL has already paid what Fedde is owed up to this point of the season.
They are paying the Braves for the approximate balance remaining, according to current reporting.

Cleared up.
Do you even read the links you posted? Thought you were supposed to so smart. The link on Gonzalez, which is the link this all came from, says THE MAJORITY...NOT THE FULL AMOUNT. Like I already stated and explained thoroughly before.
Aren’t the Braves very close to the tax?
This would help them and Fedde gets a shot. The money was gone anyway.
The PTBNL allows both flexibility with the 40 man
and the actual player coming back.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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renostl wrote: 27 Jul 2025 22:40 pm
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 22:04 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 21:26 pm
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
"ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez reporting the Cards will be covering the approximately $2.7MM remaining on Fedde’s $7.5MM salary for the 2025 season."
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals
https://x.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1949593907630834047

"The #Braves today acquired RHP Erick Fedde and cash considerations from the St. Louis Cardinals..."
https://x.com/Braves/status/1949590632579932546

"The Braves, who announced the trade on Sunday, will also receive cash considerations in the trade."
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/eric ... he%20trade.

STL has already paid what Fedde is owed up to this point of the season.
They are paying the Braves for the approximate balance remaining, according to current reporting.

Cleared up.
Do you even read the links you posted? Thought you were supposed to so smart. The link on Gonzalez, which is the link this all came from, says THE MAJORITY...NOT THE FULL AMOUNT. Like I already stated and explained thoroughly before.
Aren’t the Braves very close to the tax?
This would help them and Fedde gets a shot. The money was gone anyway.
The PTBNL allows both flexibility with the 40 man
and the actual player coming back.
The PTBNL probably can't even sniff the 40 man roster. It is probably a pick of a bunch of low A guys or DSL guys that are probably more suspect than prospect. The Braves probably will be saving money by putting Fedde on the payroll becuase he will be making league minimum only and the guy going back to the minors is probably making more than that or it will break even.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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If Fedde does well with Atlanta, will that then turn attention to Cardinals' coaching? Is there something the Braves scouts saw in Fedde that the Cardinals failed to notice and fix? Will that then turn attention to Gray? Tuesday's Atlanta start will be telling.

Opti
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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opti mist wrote: 28 Jul 2025 06:46 am If Fedde does well with Atlanta, will that then turn attention to Cardinals' coaching? Is there something the Braves scouts saw in Fedde that the Cardinals failed to notice and fix? Will that then turn attention to Gray? Tuesday's Atlanta start will be telling.

Opti
Fedde is a journeyman pitcher who had a career 3/4 of a season last year. He will not turn it around in Atlanta. But like many have said should have traded him in the off season.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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opti mist wrote: 28 Jul 2025 06:46 am If Fedde does well with Atlanta, will that then turn attention to Cardinals' coaching? Is there something the Braves scouts saw in Fedde that the Cardinals failed to notice and fix? Will that then turn attention to Gray? Tuesday's Atlanta start will be telling.

Opti
Fair point.
The next 2 months should be interesting either way.
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