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moose-and-squirrel
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Re: Question Gorman IL then rehab

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woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 12:14 pm
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 12:09 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 11:06 am
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 10:36 am
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 25 Jul 2025 20:32 pm
woofy25 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 14:00 pm
IndCard75 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 13:58 pm Pending a trade I feel like last nights line up is kind of set right now. Gorman is still young and needs to play every day imo. So my question is, when he comes back from IL can he be sent down on rehab assignment? And for how long? At least that would get him some regular at bats.
Just have Herrera catch.
Not serious are you?
If you believe the Cardinals aren’t that good of a team, as I believe, then the goal should be to get guys ABs. Since they’re not chasing a WS, Herreras defensive abilities behind the plate don’t matter as much as getting Gorman 200 more ABs. This way, Gorman can DH, Donovan plays 2B, Walker plays RF and either Burleson or Noot ends up getting traded, either at the deadline or in the offseason. Noot could also play some CF. Neither the nor Scott have been all that good. Neither deserves to start ever day. There’s my logic.
I’ll also add that Pages behind the plate, is not gold glove caliber by any measure. He needs no further runway
honestly, the combination of Herrera not being good behind the plate and his leg issues, I pretty much think that ship has sailed
Have never seen a 26 man roster with so many catchers who can’t catch. This has to be some kind of symbolism for the state of the entire organization.
I’d still have him catch and risk another IL stint. Then figure out his full-time position in the offseason.
and I think you'll get your wish at some point, but don't think it'll be on a regular basis. the only reason we have so many on the big league roster is due to him not being able to do it very well
Nor can contreras
I don't think Contreras was a 'bad' catcher, just couldn't stay healthy back there
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Re: Question Gorman IL then rehab

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CardsBest wrote: 25 Jul 2025 21:58 pm
Melville wrote: 25 Jul 2025 21:50 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 14:00 pm Anyone else think this is weird and going to be a huge issue. Go into the ASB and have a bad back and it's still not rectified a week later???

Sell
His back is fine.
That's not why he is on the IL.
If needed, he would be active.
Team simply needs to create space.
He is being stashed - just as Walker and Mootbaar have recently been - to buy a little time.
You are just trying to defend your idiotic stance of how great Gorman was. He should have been traded long before now. You were wrong about him. He is an oft injured and often pathetic hitter. Donovan is an All-Star second baseman and they have Wetherholt knocking on the door.
Yes. Mel has been dead wrong on Gorman but also Donovan, as he said before the 2022 season: "relying on him (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching ... would be utter foolishness." Fool.
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Re: Question Gorman IL then rehab

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 13:51 pm
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 12:14 pm
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 12:09 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 11:06 am
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 10:36 am
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 25 Jul 2025 20:32 pm
woofy25 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 14:00 pm
IndCard75 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 13:58 pm Pending a trade I feel like last nights line up is kind of set right now. Gorman is still young and needs to play every day imo. So my question is, when he comes back from IL can he be sent down on rehab assignment? And for how long? At least that would get him some regular at bats.
Just have Herrera catch.
Not serious are you?
If you believe the Cardinals aren’t that good of a team, as I believe, then the goal should be to get guys ABs. Since they’re not chasing a WS, Herreras defensive abilities behind the plate don’t matter as much as getting Gorman 200 more ABs. This way, Gorman can DH, Donovan plays 2B, Walker plays RF and either Burleson or Noot ends up getting traded, either at the deadline or in the offseason. Noot could also play some CF. Neither the nor Scott have been all that good. Neither deserves to start ever day. There’s my logic.
I’ll also add that Pages behind the plate, is not gold glove caliber by any measure. He needs no further runway
honestly, the combination of Herrera not being good behind the plate and his leg issues, I pretty much think that ship has sailed
Have never seen a 26 man roster with so many catchers who can’t catch. This has to be some kind of symbolism for the state of the entire organization.
I’d still have him catch and risk another IL stint. Then figure out his full-time position in the offseason.
and I think you'll get your wish at some point, but don't think it'll be on a regular basis. the only reason we have so many on the big league roster is due to him not being able to do it very well
Nor can contreras
I don't think Contreras was a 'bad' catcher, just couldn't stay healthy back there
The Cardinals pitching staff would say otherwise. He had a stigma of being bad defensively when they signed him too. Hes not that good
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Re: Question Gorman IL then rehab

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woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 14:45 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 13:51 pm
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 12:14 pm
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 12:09 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jul 2025 11:06 am
woofy25 wrote: 26 Jul 2025 10:36 am
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 25 Jul 2025 20:32 pm
woofy25 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 14:00 pm
IndCard75 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 13:58 pm Pending a trade I feel like last nights line up is kind of set right now. Gorman is still young and needs to play every day imo. So my question is, when he comes back from IL can he be sent down on rehab assignment? And for how long? At least that would get him some regular at bats.
Just have Herrera catch.
Not serious are you?
If you believe the Cardinals aren’t that good of a team, as I believe, then the goal should be to get guys ABs. Since they’re not chasing a WS, Herreras defensive abilities behind the plate don’t matter as much as getting Gorman 200 more ABs. This way, Gorman can DH, Donovan plays 2B, Walker plays RF and either Burleson or Noot ends up getting traded, either at the deadline or in the offseason. Noot could also play some CF. Neither the nor Scott have been all that good. Neither deserves to start ever day. There’s my logic.
I’ll also add that Pages behind the plate, is not gold glove caliber by any measure. He needs no further runway
honestly, the combination of Herrera not being good behind the plate and his leg issues, I pretty much think that ship has sailed
Have never seen a 26 man roster with so many catchers who can’t catch. This has to be some kind of symbolism for the state of the entire organization.
I’d still have him catch and risk another IL stint. Then figure out his full-time position in the offseason.
and I think you'll get your wish at some point, but don't think it'll be on a regular basis. the only reason we have so many on the big league roster is due to him not being able to do it very well
Nor can contreras
I don't think Contreras was a 'bad' catcher, just couldn't stay healthy back there
The Cardinals pitching staff would say otherwise. He had a stigma of being bad defensively when they signed him too. Hes not that good
I believe his 'stigma' was his game calling and general lack of knowledge of the pitching staff. and if that's true, that's definitely a problem.

but his catching, blocking, throwing..etc.. seemed fine. BUT.. not knowing the staff is a big deal
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Re: Question Gorman IL then rehab

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Melville wrote: 25 Jul 2025 21:50 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 14:00 pm Anyone else think this is weird and going to be a huge issue. Go into the ASB and have a bad back and it's still not rectified a week later???

Sell
His back is fine.
That's not why he is on the IL.
If needed, he would be active.
Team simply needs to create space.
He is being stashed - just as Walker and Mootbaar have recently been - to buy a little time.
Absolute perfect analysis.
Again.
Gorman's back - and right on time.
Stashed until the deadline passed.
Folks, this stuff ain't hard.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
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Re: Question Gorman IL then rehab

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Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2025 18:58 pm
Melville wrote: 25 Jul 2025 21:50 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 25 Jul 2025 14:00 pm Anyone else think this is weird and going to be a huge issue. Go into the ASB and have a bad back and it's still not rectified a week later???

Sell
His back is fine.
That's not why he is on the IL.
If needed, he would be active.
Team simply needs to create space.
He is being stashed - just as Walker and Mootbaar have recently been - to buy a little time.
Absolute perfect analysis.
Again.
Gorman's back - and right on time.
Stashed until the deadline passed.
Folks, this stuff ain't hard.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
:lol: oh man, good one
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