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Re: If we don't get offered exactly what we want/need for Helsley - keep him and give a QO
Posted: 25 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
by Bomber1
riff raff wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:26 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:01 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 14:06 pm
ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 13:42 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 12:01 pm
I can't see 1) BDWJr agreeing to a $21+M or 2) Helsley accepting it given he's going to get a solid LT deal from someone at $15-18M AAV.
Last year the Brewers did not want to retain SS Willy Adames (for they did not wish to pay the big $$$ ) so rather than trade him at last year's trade deadline, they kept him and then gave the QO to him (figuring he was gong to get a much bigger payday elsewhere ) .
One of these analytic sites (was it Spotrac) determined Helsley would get in neighborhood of $81 M multi-year deal.
According to the rules, if a player leaving signs for more than $50 M contract , the team losing the player gets a comp. pick after the 1st round .
Adames did and Brewers got added draft choice .. No. 32 in this past draft . The selected HS SS Brady Ebel Pretty nice player!
Could Helsley just take the 1 yr. deal at $21 M .. I guess but to turn down a bundle for multi-year would be quite risky. He could decline some next year OR God forbid get some elbow injury and he would be toast for a big day after 2026. Pretty big gamble if you ask me.
Some think better haul in a trade as some expert thinks Helsley is worth a Top100 prospect type guy .
Yea I read that Spotrac projection too RFD
Odds are even w/Helsley desperate to stay here his agent (wife?) wouldn't let him accept the $21+M QO if he could get that $81M from some team (BTW they also said it was a six year deal too).
This is going to be a moot point thought, (IMO) he's going to be traded.
Name a reliever that has gotten a 6 year deal.
Y'all are on crack regarding Helsley's market. Not surprising though considering you're the same guy who calls Juan Soto "injury prone"
Hels will be lucky to get a three year deal. Six years is laughable.
And anybody that thinks he’ll get $ 81 million is mistaken.
Re: If we don't get offered exactly what we want/need for Helsley - keep him and give a QO
Posted: 25 Jul 2025 20:38 pm
by Carp4Cy
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:01 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 14:06 pm
ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 13:42 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 12:01 pm
I can't see 1) BDWJr agreeing to a $21+M or 2) Helsley accepting it given he's going to get a solid LT deal from someone at $15-18M AAV.
Last year the Brewers did not want to retain SS Willy Adames (for they did not wish to pay the big $$$ ) so rather than trade him at last year's trade deadline, they kept him and then gave the QO to him (figuring he was gong to get a much bigger payday elsewhere ) .
One of these analytic sites (was it Spotrac) determined Helsley would get in neighborhood of $81 M multi-year deal.
According to the rules, if a player leaving signs for more than $50 M contract , the team losing the player gets a comp. pick after the 1st round .
Adames did and Brewers got added draft choice .. No. 32 in this past draft . The selected HS SS Brady Ebel Pretty nice player!
Could Helsley just take the 1 yr. deal at $21 M .. I guess but to turn down a bundle for multi-year would be quite risky. He could decline some next year OR God forbid get some elbow injury and he would be toast for a big day after 2026. Pretty big gamble if you ask me.
Some think better haul in a trade as some expert thinks Helsley is worth a Top100 prospect type guy .
Yea I read that Spotrac projection too RFD
Odds are even w/Helsley desperate to stay here his agent (wife?) wouldn't let him accept the $21+M QO if he could get that $81M from some team (BTW they also said it was a six year deal too).
This is going to be a moot point thought, (IMO) he's going to be traded.
Name a reliever that has gotten a 6 year deal.
Y'all are on crack regarding Helsley's market. Not surprising though considering you're the same guy who calls Juan Soto "injury prone"
Hader got 6 year money on a 5 year deal, so....
Re: If we don't get offered exactly what we want/need for Helsley - keep him and give a QO
Posted: 25 Jul 2025 20:40 pm
by An Old Friend
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:38 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:01 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 14:06 pm
ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 13:42 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 12:01 pm
I can't see 1) BDWJr agreeing to a $21+M or 2) Helsley accepting it given he's going to get a solid LT deal from someone at $15-18M AAV.
Last year the Brewers did not want to retain SS Willy Adames (for they did not wish to pay the big $$$ ) so rather than trade him at last year's trade deadline, they kept him and then gave the QO to him (figuring he was gong to get a much bigger payday elsewhere ) .
One of these analytic sites (was it Spotrac) determined Helsley would get in neighborhood of $81 M multi-year deal.
According to the rules, if a player leaving signs for more than $50 M contract , the team losing the player gets a comp. pick after the 1st round .
Adames did and Brewers got added draft choice .. No. 32 in this past draft . The selected HS SS Brady Ebel Pretty nice player!
Could Helsley just take the 1 yr. deal at $21 M .. I guess but to turn down a bundle for multi-year would be quite risky. He could decline some next year OR God forbid get some elbow injury and he would be toast for a big day after 2026. Pretty big gamble if you ask me.
Some think better haul in a trade as some expert thinks Helsley is worth a Top100 prospect type guy .
Yea I read that Spotrac projection too RFD
Odds are even w/Helsley desperate to stay here his agent (wife?) wouldn't let him accept the $21+M QO if he could get that $81M from some team (BTW they also said it was a six year deal too).
This is going to be a moot point thought, (IMO) he's going to be traded.
Name a reliever that has gotten a 6 year deal.
Y'all are on crack regarding Helsley's market. Not surprising though considering you're the same guy who calls Juan Soto "injury prone"
Hader got 6 year money on a 5 year deal, so....
So... he got a 5 year deal, and not a 6 year deal. What is "6 year money"? That isn't a thing.
No reliever gets a 6 year deal.