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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:03 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
Just reference math. Four to one chance the Blues end up with a forward. Or reference Armstrong and every other GM who has said you don’t draft for today’s need.

Easy. Keep trying.
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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:03 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
The Blues did NOT "lose" Bolduc, they traded him for another player. You posts are overloaded with bias.
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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:03 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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I'll say this given the longer lead time to develop a defenseman, it should have been a focus earlier in the rebuild process. Also, how many LD's have we drafted in the last 4-5 years vs RDs which are harder to find/replace in the NHL. RD should have been more of a focus especially given the age of CP and Faulk. I know best player available is a good idea, but you can't tell me when you're in the late 1st/2nd round that there aren't 5-10 players that are closely ranked and one of them probably was a RD.
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LGB73 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 09:49 am I'll say this given the longer lead time to develop a defenseman, it should have been a focus earlier in the rebuild process. Also, how many LD's have we drafted in the last 4-5 years vs RDs which are harder to find/replace in the NHL. RD should have been more of a focus especially given the age of CP and Faulk. I know best player available is a good idea, but you can't tell me when you're in the late 1st/2nd round that there aren't 5-10 players that are closely ranked and one of them probably was a RD.
Blues are fine with CP, Faulk, Mailloux, Kessel and Jiricek now no worries
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LGB73 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 09:49 am I'll say this given the longer lead time to develop a defenseman, it should have been a focus earlier in the rebuild process. Also, how many LD's have we drafted in the last 4-5 years vs RDs which are harder to find/replace in the NHL. RD should have been more of a focus especially given the age of CP and Faulk. I know best player available is a good idea, but you can't tell me when you're in the late 1st/2nd round that there aren't 5-10 players that are closely ranked and one of them probably was a RD.
Bingo. And the truth glides in like a cool breeze through the screen door.

Army's attempts at replacing Petro all misfired, culminating with the biggest mistake of them all, Jiricek in Round 1 of 2024. Jiricek is a poor man's TOP5 pick. All the tools, but great injury/bust risk. At the time of drafting, he was at least 2 years away given his injury status. One year later, he is still 2 years away--and there is large doubt that he makes it at all.

BluesTalker's think that we don't need a TOP5 pick. We don't need that talent because we are already locked and loaded, they think. As we ALL NOW SEE, Army doesn't agree.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:00 am
LGB73 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 09:49 am I'll say this given the longer lead time to develop a defenseman, it should have been a focus earlier in the rebuild process. Also, how many LD's have we drafted in the last 4-5 years vs RDs which are harder to find/replace in the NHL. RD should have been more of a focus especially given the age of CP and Faulk. I know best player available is a good idea, but you can't tell me when you're in the late 1st/2nd round that there aren't 5-10 players that are closely ranked and one of them probably was a RD.
Blues are fine with CP, Faulk, Mailloux, Kessel and Jiricek now no worries
Multiple worries. Faulk is finishing up/declining. Kessel looks like a tweener and Jiricek is a longshot. Parayko is nearing 750 games and Maillous has played 8. The RHD is not a contender's RHD and for it to become one major developments that haven't ensued, must ensue
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Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:20 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:03 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
Just reference math. Four to one chance the Blues end up with a forward. Or reference Armstrong and every other GM who has said you don’t draft for today’s need.

Easy. Keep trying.
Now increase that to being a RHD man and those numbers get even worse.

It's one of the hardest positions to fill in the NHL because of its scarcity.

Even having a top 5/10 pick doesn't guarantee it.
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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 11:04 am
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:20 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:03 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
Just reference math. Four to one chance the Blues end up with a forward. Or reference Armstrong and every other GM who has said you don’t draft for today’s need.

Easy. Keep trying.
Now increase that to being a RHD man and those numbers get even worse.

It's one of the hardest positions to fill in the NHL because of its scarcity.

Even having a top 5/10 pick doesn't guarantee it.
If you don't like the odds of a TOP 5 or TOP 10 pick, you are going to 1000% despise the chances of a
-- TOP 20 pick,
-- A TRADE
-- A Free Agent

And the odds are just as bad for an elite Center. Anybody remember how ugly the Kevin Hayes experiment was?
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For those that are thinking we are close to going far..., I recommend that you pay close attention to what our wonderful GM has said....

-- Many teams need a 2C.
-- We need an elite RHD that we can't get in the draft because they go TOP5.

Army is telling us that these 2 components are NECESSITIES, and we don't have one currently. We certainly don't have a 2C advantage over the other teams.

Before you start dreaming about a Cup, start asking what your GM is doing to land the missing pieces. That would be much better time spent.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 14 Jul 2025 11:33 am For those that are thinking we are close to going far..., I recommend that you pay close attention to what our wonderful GM has said....

-- Many teams need a 2C.
-- We need an elite RHD that we can't get in the draft because they go TOP5.

Army is telling us that these 2 components are NECESSITIES, and we don't have one currently. We certainly don't have a 2C advantage over the other teams.

Before you start dreaming about a Cup, start asking what your GM is doing to land the missing pieces. That would be much better time spent.
he is not your GM. We have all decided that you are not a blues fan just a troll looking for attention
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Nublues69 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 11:48 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 14 Jul 2025 11:33 am For those that are thinking we are close to going far..., I recommend that you pay close attention to what our wonderful GM has said....

-- Many teams need a 2C.
-- We need an elite RHD that we can't get in the draft because they go TOP5.

Army is telling us that these 2 components are NECESSITIES, and we don't have one currently. We certainly don't have a 2C advantage over the other teams.

Before you start dreaming about a Cup, start asking what your GM is doing to land the missing pieces. That would be much better time spent.
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Re: A Reason This Team Will Go Far In the Next Couple Years

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a smell of green grass wrote: 14 Jul 2025 11:27 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 11:04 am
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:20 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:03 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
Just reference math. Four to one chance the Blues end up with a forward. Or reference Armstrong and every other GM who has said you don’t draft for today’s need.

Easy. Keep trying.
Now increase that to being a RHD man and those numbers get even worse.

It's one of the hardest positions to fill in the NHL because of its scarcity.

Even having a top 5/10 pick doesn't guarantee it.
If you don't like the odds of a TOP 5 or TOP 10 pick, you are going to 1000% despise the chances of a
-- TOP 20 pick,
-- A TRADE
-- A Free Agent

And the odds are just as bad for an elite Center. Anybody remember how ugly the Kevin Hayes experiment was?
So now you are arguing that just because there wasn't a RD among the top 5 prospects in a given draft year, the odds of there being one in the top 20 get worse? That is not how math works.

Also what does bringing Kevin Hayes in to be a bottom-6 center have to do with acquiring an "elite center" ? Because no one, including Doug Armstrong, ever suggested Hayes was here to man the top line. Another nonsense argument?
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Old_Goat wrote: 14 Jul 2025 09:12 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:03 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 13 Jul 2025 20:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:40 pm
dhsux wrote: 13 Jul 2025 19:32 pm If you believe DA & Company had GOOD REASON to make the Mailloux for Bolduc trade, like truly, then you might as well relax to find out.

If you believe they were fooled, or goaded or somehow sucked into it on their own end then yeah....I'd be very nervous right now.

There might not be certainty on all of this, but there certainly is likely hood.

Pretty much the same with the rest of it. The staff is either good and accurate and have done the right work on most of the players or they have missed their assignments and evaluations and have blown most of their picks.

DA and his entire staff will be the reason this team goes far or not. I am liking the odds for a very good run and i am not nervous.
I recommend asking yourself why this happened.

Answer: Montreal wanted Bolduc for the same reasons that the fans love him. Army has been attempting to land an elite RHD since Petro left. There is. generally no way to ever get an elIte RHD when you draft after 10. So because of that circumstance, Bolduc is gone. Bolduc is a casualty of not having a TOP 5 pick.
Only the top overall pick was a defender, last year only the 2nd overall pick was a defender. Only one out of five the year before as well, and the year before that. Had we had a top 5 pick any year Bolduc may have been gone even sooner.

You guys make this so easy.
Just reference what Army said about the Bolduc/Mailloux trade. Army told us directly that we don't select high enough in the draft to select an elite RHD. That is exactly why we lost Bolduc.
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