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Re: Devers already a problem in San Fran
Posted: 09 Jul 2025 13:10 pm
by nighthawk
hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 12:15 pm
nighthawk wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 10:20 am
rbirules wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:31 am
nighthawk wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:26 am
rbirules wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:10 am
nighthawk wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:00 am
What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?
Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.
Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runner bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???
I didn't say it was extraordinarily difficult, but it's a very clear and obvious thing that 1B do many more times every single game than any other position. A team certainly isn't going to move a player to a position without giving him some practice there to make sure they are up to speed. Maybe it takes one or two practice sessions, maybe it takes longer, but you still have to actually show up and practice it to show the team you can handle a key component of 1B before they trot you out there.
Countless infielders have switched to first base quite easily because it is the least challenging position to play. They don't need frigging Will Clark to give them lessons. Devers has the skills, but for whatever reason, he just doesn't want to play first base.
It doesn't make sense to me to blow off an offer from Will Clark to work on the position.
Sure it does, if you are simply obstinant about not playing first base. You've logged more than 8200 innings at third base, a much tougher position and clearly have the skills to play first base. What do you need with Will Clark, Keith Hernandez, Eddie Murray or Hal Chase's mentoring?
I don't know if its ego or just sheer stupidity, but if you were his agent you wouldn't be counseling in favor of the obstinance. You'd recognize that he has the skills to play first and adding that position to your reptoire would only increase your value.
Re: Devers already a problem in San Fran
Posted: 09 Jul 2025 13:32 pm
by RunSup
82birds wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:12 am
imadangman wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 07:53 am
Maybe Will Clark scared him.
LOL
he IS/WAS kinda scary
Not to Ozzie Smith and Jose Oquendo.
Harry and Ron took down a Cave Troll as first years
Re: Devers already a problem in San Fran
Posted: 09 Jul 2025 13:42 pm
by Rojo Johnson
nighthawk wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:26 am
rbirules wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:10 am
nighthawk wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:00 am
What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?
Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.
Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???
Ask Ron Washington what he told Scott Hatteberg
Re: Devers already a problem in San Fran
Posted: 10 Jul 2025 21:16 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Will Clark disagrees with people framing Devers as a bad guy for this one incident and has some words for the guy who blabbed about it.
"And Will Flemming, you can go [fork] off, (buzz)."
https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/will-cl ... um=bluesky
Re: Devers already a problem in San Fran
Posted: 10 Jul 2025 23:06 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
The only problem with Devers in SF is that he hasn't hit well so far.
Re: Devers already a problem in San Fran
Posted: 11 Jul 2025 07:46 am
by The Nard
nighthawk wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 09:00 am
What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?
Primarily, positioning on each and every play.