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Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:17 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.

You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.

I referenced that in my post.
Perhaps you missed that?
I understand it with perfection - which is why I am opposed to it.
This is the 2025 ASG - and Kershaw has not earned it.
"Legacy" recognition belongs in the HOF.
Not on the field.

Bad14 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 19:00 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:17 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.

You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.

I referenced that in my post.
Perhaps you missed that?
I understand it with perfection - which is why I am opposed to it.
This is the 2025 ASG - and Kershaw has not earned it.
"Legacy" recognition belongs in the HOF.
Not on the field.

This is one of the many things that makes you annoying. You clearly didn't think it was a legacy pick. If you had, you would not have said quite a few pitchers are far, far more worthy including Gray. Gray and those pitchers wouldn't be legacy picks at this point in their careers. But rather than admit you made a mistake you lie and act like you knew it was a legacy pick all along. Clearly you didn't or you would have referenced it in your original post.

Bad14 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 19:00 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:17 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.

You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.

I referenced that in my post.
Perhaps you missed that?
I understand it with perfection - which is why I am opposed to it.
This is the 2025 ASG - and Kershaw has not earned it.
"Legacy" recognition belongs in the HOF.
Not on the field.

This is one of the many things that makes you annoying. You clearly didn't think it was a legacy pick. If you had, you would not have said quite a few pitchers are far, far more worthy including Gray. Gray and those pitchers wouldn't be legacy picks at this point in their careers. But rather than admit you made a mistake you lie and act like you knew it was a legacy pick all along. Clearly you didn't or you would have referenced it in your original post.

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 19:16 pm

Bad14 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 19:00 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:17 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.

You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.

I referenced that in my post.
Perhaps you missed that?
I understand it with perfection - which is why I am opposed to it.
This is the 2025 ASG - and Kershaw has not earned it.
"Legacy" recognition belongs in the HOF.
Not on the field.

This is one of the many things that makes you annoying. You clearly didn't think it was a legacy pick. If you had, you would not have said quite a few pitchers are far, far more worthy including Gray. Gray and those pitchers wouldn't be legacy picks at this point in their careers. But rather than admit you made a mistake you lie and act like you knew it was a legacy pick all along. Clearly you didn't or you would have referenced it in your original post.

I refuse to say unkind things of others, regardless of how often they repeat the same false claim.
This post shall be no exception to my high personal standard of conduct.
From my original post:
"Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred)."
So, with an abundance of patience and graciousness, I will again point out the fact that it was I who first mentioned this was an appointment by Manfred.
I will kindly leave it to you as to whether you have simply failed to comprehend that fact or are denying that fact for whatever your reasons may be.
I will not ascribe motive or malice on your part.
That Manfred appointed Kershaw for marketing reasons, rather than for being a member of the 2025 squad based on merit this season, is the very point of the thread and has been from the first post.

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 19:16 pm

Bad14 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 19:00 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:17 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm

Melville wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.

You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.

I referenced that in my post.
Perhaps you missed that?
I understand it with perfection - which is why I am opposed to it.
This is the 2025 ASG - and Kershaw has not earned it.
"Legacy" recognition belongs in the HOF.
Not on the field.

This is one of the many things that makes you annoying. You clearly didn't think it was a legacy pick. If you had, you would not have said quite a few pitchers are far, far more worthy including Gray. Gray and those pitchers wouldn't be legacy picks at this point in their careers. But rather than admit you made a mistake you lie and act like you knew it was a legacy pick all along. Clearly you didn't or you would have referenced it in your original post.

I refuse to say unkind things of others, regardless of how often they repeat the same false claim.
This post shall be no exception to my high personal standard of conduct.
From my original post:
"Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred)."
So, with an abundance of patience and graciousness, I will again point out the fact that it was I who first mentioned this was an appointment by Manfred.
I will kindly leave it to you as to whether you have simply failed to comprehend that fact or are denying that fact for whatever your reasons may be.
I will not ascribe motive or malice on your part.
That Manfred appointed Kershaw for marketing reasons, rather than for being a member of the 2025 squad based on merit this season, is the very point of the thread and has been from the first post.

Adam2 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 10:11 am the whole selection process has become a washed out joke. There have now been 80 players selected (appointed) to this all star game if you count the players who were selected and can't play due to injury, or pitchers who were selected and cannot pitch due to pitching games right before the all star game and needed replacements to fill out the active player roster

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 10:21 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 10:11 am the whole selection process has become a washed out joke. There have now been 80 players selected (appointed) to this all star game if you count the players who were selected and can't play due to injury, or pitchers who were selected and cannot pitch due to pitching games right before the all star game and needed replacements to fill out the active player roster

Way too diluted. You’re down to regular players at this point, especially pitchers.

sp25 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 10:43 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 10:21 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 10:11 am the whole selection process has become a washed out joke. There have now been 80 players selected (appointed) to this all star game if you count the players who were selected and can't play due to injury, or pitchers who were selected and cannot pitch due to pitching games right before the all star game and needed replacements to fill out the active player roster

Way too diluted. You’re down to regular players at this point, especially pitchers.

And watch the Circus as they try to get as many players into the game as possible.

I was recently looking up the 15 inning All Star game from 1967 and saw that Bill Freehan caught the entire game in spite of the fact that there were two other catchers on the AL roster. Incredible.

Melville wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 09:24 am And now Misiorowski.
One pitcher named for reasons of nostalgia.
Another named for the reason of hyping a kid.
Neither have any business being on the squad.
Such a disservice to those who have actually earned a spot this year.
Society - including MLB - continues to abandon merit.