This team is in contention for the wild card

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

It's true, and it was fun at the time, but the aftermath has had a terrible effect on the team's standards and approach to roster building. They saw it happen once so they know it CAN happen- never mind that it is unlikely. It's baked into the formula now. Just get in and anything can happen. What an awful approach.

Better get used to it. Cardinals have a poor TV deal and mediocre attendance. They can't afford to absorb big contracts now.

Good.

Force them to develop internal. The really need to get the right people
In place to develop these younger players.

[scoutyjones2]

Since the implementation of MLB's expanded Wild Card format, 86 wins has been the average number to get a team into the postseason. The wild card system has undergone several changes since its introduction, including the addition of a second wild card team in each league in 2012. In its history, a total of 8 wildcard teams have won the World Series, while another 8 teams appeared in the World Series as a Wild Card team. The Major League Baseball Wild Card Game is a one-game, winner take all, postseason event that was added to Major League Baseball in 2012. Introduced in 1994, the wild card allows three teams from both the American and National Leagues to qualify for the playoffs, even if they didn't win their division.

The system was changed in 2022 to add a third wild card team from each league (expanding the playoffs to 12 teams), along with replacing the play-in game with an 8 team best-of-three Wild Card Series featuring the 3 wild cards from each league and the lowest-seeded division winner in each league, with winners of each league's wild card series advance to face the two best record division winners in that league's Division Series.

In its history after being implemented, a total of 8 wildcard teams have won the World Series, while another 8 teams appeared in the World Series as a Wild Card team. As of the 2024 season, the 2002, 2014, and 2023 World Series are only editions of the World Series to have featured two Wild Card teams.

[stormtime]

Doesn't seem like a playoff team over the last 4 games but still in contention.

Next 4 series Nationals, Braves, Diamondbacks, Rockies. 3 very poor teams and 1 mediocre. We will likely be in contention for the wild card at the end of July. I doubt we add and I doubt we subtract. We ride this out to the end of the season.

I realize anything can happen, but I have little hope for more than getting bounced in the first round even if we are a WC team. There is no good excuse to pass up a golden opportunity to add potential impact prospects for Helsley at the very least. Most likely marginal prospects at best for anyone else, unless BDW decides to shock the world and eat quite a bit of Arenado's contract.

Either way, the focus should be on Chaim and the future....not this season.

[ScotchMIrish]

Doesn't seem like a playoff team over the last 4 games but still in contention.

Next 4 series Nationals, Braves, Diamondbacks, Rockies. 3 very poor teams and 1 mediocre. We will likely be in contention for the wild card at the end of July. I doubt we add and I doubt we subtract. We ride this out to the end of the season.

I realize anything can happen, but I have little hope for more than getting bounced in the first round even if we are a WC team. There is no good excuse to pass up a golden opportunity to add potential impact prospects for Helsley at the very least. Most likely marginal prospects at best for anyone else, unless BDW decides to shock the world and eat quite a bit of Arenado's contract.

Either way, the focus should be on Chaim and the future....not this season.

I could see them moving Helsley if they don't think they can re-sign him but most teams in contention for a playoff spot don't dump and rebuild.

[ScotchMIrish]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

It's true, and it was fun at the time, but the aftermath has had a terrible effect on the team's standards and approach to roster building. They saw it happen once so they know it CAN happen- never mind that it is unlikely. It's baked into the formula now. Just get in and anything can happen. What an awful approach.

Better get used to it. Cardinals have a poor TV deal and mediocre attendance. They can't afford to absorb big contracts now.

Good.

Force them to develop internal. The really need to get the right people
In place to develop these younger players.

They definitely need to do a better job of developing players in their system and in theory bloom is the guy who can do that but it's easier said than done. Look at the Pirates.

[rockondlouie]

Given the next four series should allow them to fatten up, I wonder what the strategy will be as we near the end of the trading deadline?

That said, given how beat up this team is you have to wonder if they can even take advantage of the upcoming weak schedule.

[stormtime]

Most teams lol....you said all that needs to be said.

I would site the recent Brewers situation at the deadline when they had the best closer in the game and traded Hader. It's an unfair game to be sure, but small market teams are forced into decisions such as this.

Zero chance they resign him anyway. He's now over 30 and what are the real chances he maintains dominance worthy of the $100M or so he will get from someone?

[ClassicO]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

No, it wasn't. Your own post shows that this team was coming off two 100-win seasons, but it had pitching issues that they addressed by the WS (Mulder and Marquis were replaced by Weaver and Reyes) and some injuries.
They had three HOF players, Edmonds and a Cy Young-type year from Carpenter:

Pujols - HOF - hit 49 HRs and 137 RBI and GG (.331/.431/.671/1.102)
Molina - HOF-to-be - had a bad year offensively but showed up when it counted - .358/.424/.547/.971 in 16 post-season games
Rolen - HOF - very good year and GG
Edmonds - stud but only 400 ABs with injuries (.822 OPS)
Encarnacion was good and Scott Spezio came off the bench with .862 OPS in 321 PAs.

[ScotchMIrish]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

No, it wasn't. Your own post shows that this team was coming off two 100-win seasons, but it had pitching issues that they addressed by the WS (Mulder and Marquis were replaced by Weaver and Reyes) and some injuries.
They had three HOF players, Edmonds and a Cy Young-type year from Carpenter:

Pujols - HOF - hit 49 HRs and 137 RBI and GG (.331/.431/.671/1.102)
Molina - HOF-to-be - had a bad year offensively but showed up when it counted - .358/.424/.547/.971 in 16 post-season games
Rolen - HOF - very good year and GG
Edmonds - stud but only 400 ABs with injuries (.822 OPS)
Encarnacion was good and Scott Spezio came off the bench with .862 OPS in 321 PAs.

Not me saying it. The good news we won the world series.

https://www.google.com/search?q=worst+t ... e&ie=UTF-8

The 2006 St. Louis Cardinals are often cited as the worst team to win the World Series, having finished the regular season with a record of 83-78. This is the worst record for any World Series champion since 1946. The 2006 Cardinals also had the worst record for any league champion since the 1973 New York Mets, who finished 82-79.
Here's why they are considered the "worst":
Worst Regular Season Record:
.
Their 83-78 record was the worst among all teams that made the playoffs that year, according to Bleacher Report.
Weak Division:
.
The National League Central was weak that year, with the Cardinals being the only team to finish with a winning record.
Low Run Differential:
.
The 1987 Minnesota Twins had a negative run differential while winning the World Series, but the 2006 Cardinals also had a relatively low run differential.
Postseason Performance:
.
While they won the World Series, their postseason performance was not dominant, and they benefited from some close series.

[ClassicO]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

No, it wasn't. Your own post shows that this team was coming off two 100-win seasons, but it had pitching issues that they addressed by the WS (Mulder and Marquis were replaced by Weaver and Reyes) and some injuries.
They had three HOF players, Edmonds and a Cy Young-type year from Carpenter:

Pujols - HOF - hit 49 HRs and 137 RBI and GG (.331/.431/.671/1.102)
Molina - HOF-to-be - had a bad year offensively but showed up when it counted - .358/.424/.547/.971 in 16 post-season games
Rolen - HOF - very good year and GG
Edmonds - stud but only 400 ABs with injuries (.822 OPS)
Encarnacion was good and Scott Spezio came off the bench with .862 OPS in 321 PAs.

Not me saying it. The good news we won the world series.

https://www.google.com/search?q=worst+t ... e&ie=UTF-8

The 2006 St. Louis Cardinals are often cited as the worst team to win the World Series, having finished the regular season with a record of 83-78. This is the worst record for any World Series champion since 1946. The 2006 Cardinals also had the worst record for any league champion since the 1973 New York Mets, who finished 82-79.
Here's why they are considered the "worst":
Worst Regular Season Record:
.
Their 83-78 record was the worst among all teams that made the playoffs that year, according to Bleacher Report.
Weak Division:
.
The National League Central was weak that year, with the Cardinals being the only team to finish with a winning record.
Low Run Differential:
.
The 1987 Minnesota Twins had a negative run differential while winning the World Series, but the 2006 Cardinals also had a relatively low run differential.
Postseason Performance:
.
While they won the World Series, their postseason performance was not dominant, and they benefited from some close series.

The link is dumb - those words are from an AI-generated summary that only cites the record. Of course, the WL record was bad, but it was NOT "the worst team" to win a WS. That is ridiculous. HAve this dufus look at the team and what I cited above and compare it to some much worse "teams" with rings in history.

[rockondlouie]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

No, it wasn't. Your own post shows that this team was coming off two 100-win seasons, but it had pitching issues that they addressed by the WS (Mulder and Marquis were replaced by Weaver and Reyes) and some injuries.
They had three HOF players, Edmonds and a Cy Young-type year from Carpenter:

Pujols - HOF - hit 49 HRs and 137 RBI and GG (.331/.431/.671/1.102)
Molina - HOF-to-be - had a bad year offensively but showed up when it counted - .358/.424/.547/.971 in 16 post-season games
Rolen - HOF - very good year and GG
Edmonds - stud but only 400 ABs with injuries (.822 OPS)
Encarnacion was good and Scott Spezio came off the bench with .862 OPS in 321 PAs.

+1 CO

How can some supposedly educated fans be so stupid making statements like that.

IF they were Cardinals fans in 2006, then they know:

-Eckstein only played 123 games due to injuries
-Edmonds only played 110 games due to injuries
*Albert (limited to 143 games) missed games due to a muscle strain
*Albert was an ironmen, playing in about 158 games a year prior to 2006
-Rolen (limited to 142 games) missed multiple games too
-Mulder only made 17 starts
-Izzy was out from 9/7 to seasons end

If they had better health, then that's a 100 win team and NOT even close to the "worst team" to win a World Series.

[ScotchMIrish]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

No, it wasn't. Your own post shows that this team was coming off two 100-win seasons, but it had pitching issues that they addressed by the WS (Mulder and Marquis were replaced by Weaver and Reyes) and some injuries.
They had three HOF players, Edmonds and a Cy Young-type year from Carpenter:

Pujols - HOF - hit 49 HRs and 137 RBI and GG (.331/.431/.671/1.102)
Molina - HOF-to-be - had a bad year offensively but showed up when it counted - .358/.424/.547/.971 in 16 post-season games
Rolen - HOF - very good year and GG
Edmonds - stud but only 400 ABs with injuries (.822 OPS)
Encarnacion was good and Scott Spezio came off the bench with .862 OPS in 321 PAs.

Not me saying it. The good news we won the world series.

https://www.google.com/search?q=worst+t ... e&ie=UTF-8

The 2006 St. Louis Cardinals are often cited as the worst team to win the World Series, having finished the regular season with a record of 83-78. This is the worst record for any World Series champion since 1946. The 2006 Cardinals also had the worst record for any league champion since the 1973 New York Mets, who finished 82-79.
Here's why they are considered the "worst":
Worst Regular Season Record:
.
Their 83-78 record was the worst among all teams that made the playoffs that year, according to Bleacher Report.
Weak Division:
.
The National League Central was weak that year, with the Cardinals being the only team to finish with a winning record.
Low Run Differential:
.
The 1987 Minnesota Twins had a negative run differential while winning the World Series, but the 2006 Cardinals also had a relatively low run differential.
Postseason Performance:
.
While they won the World Series, their postseason performance was not dominant, and they benefited from some close series.

The link is dumb - those words are from an AI-generated summary that only cites the record. Of course, the WL record was bad, but it was NOT "the worst team" to win a WS. That is ridiculous. HAve this dufus look at the team and what I cited above and compare it to some much worse "teams" with rings in history.

Hate the link. Don't hate the linker.

[ClassicO]

only because the league is so bad

MLB has bottomed out, it's really mediocre

There are some bad teams but...

2004 Cardinals 105 wins
2005 Cardinals 100 wins
2006 Cardinals 83 win + world series champions.

Worst team in the history of baseball to win the world series 2006 Cardinals.

No, it wasn't. Your own post shows that this team was coming off two 100-win seasons, but it had pitching issues that they addressed by the WS (Mulder and Marquis were replaced by Weaver and Reyes) and some injuries.
They had three HOF players, Edmonds and a Cy Young-type year from Carpenter:

Pujols - HOF - hit 49 HRs and 137 RBI and GG (.331/.431/.671/1.102)
Molina - HOF-to-be - had a bad year offensively but showed up when it counted - .358/.424/.547/.971 in 16 post-season games
Rolen - HOF - very good year and GG
Edmonds - stud but only 400 ABs with injuries (.822 OPS)
Encarnacion was good and Scott Spezio came off the bench with .862 OPS in 321 PAs.

Not me saying it. The good news we won the world series.

https://www.google.com/search?q=worst+t ... e&ie=UTF-8

The 2006 St. Louis Cardinals are often cited as the worst team to win the World Series, having finished the regular season with a record of 83-78. This is the worst record for any World Series champion since 1946. The 2006 Cardinals also had the worst record for any league champion since the 1973 New York Mets, who finished 82-79.
Here's why they are considered the "worst":
Worst Regular Season Record:
.
Their 83-78 record was the worst among all teams that made the playoffs that year, according to Bleacher Report.
Weak Division:
.
The National League Central was weak that year, with the Cardinals being the only team to finish with a winning record.
Low Run Differential:
.
The 1987 Minnesota Twins had a negative run differential while winning the World Series, but the 2006 Cardinals also had a relatively low run differential.
Postseason Performance:
.
While they won the World Series, their postseason performance was not dominant, and they benefited from some close series.

The link is dumb - those words are from an AI-generated summary that only cites the record. Of course, the WL record was bad, but it was NOT "the worst team" to win a WS. That is ridiculous. HAve this dufus look at the team and what I cited above and compare it to some much worse "teams" with rings in history.

Hate the link. Don't hate the linker.

Ha. Agree.