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Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

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Kyrou, Leddy, Texier

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Wright, Dunn, Schwartz
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TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:18 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:01 am
Nublues69 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:38 am That ship has sailed man. I will say they have like so many talented young centers its crazy
yes they do..they are absolutely loaded at center.
They were rumored to be looking to move McCann a couple weeks ago. While Beniers would be the real win, what would you think about a deal around Wright, McCann, a 2026
1st or 2nd and a RD prospect like Dragicevic or Fiddler??

If no future picks included, could Bolduc, Jiricek and a cap dump like Leddy get that done? If Kyrou going, not sure I’d accept less than a combination of the 4 pieces above. Thoughts??
Personally, I would trade Kyrou straight up for Wright or Berniers.
Berniers is the better center at this point, but he costs 6 million more than wright does. Berniers is 22 and Wright is 21.
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Zizzle1297 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 05:04 am Beniers or Wright, RFA rights to KK, and Lukas Dragicevic

Kyrou, Faulk, Texier, Jirichek
Texier has a negative value. Faulk is fair value but the Kraken still would need to have a "need" for an average defenseman being paid 6.5 million for the next 2 years. Jiricek is a throw in lottery ticket.
Your deal will never happen IMO.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:37 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:18 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:01 am
Nublues69 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:38 am That ship has sailed man. I will say they have like so many talented young centers its crazy
yes they do..they are absolutely loaded at center.
They were rumored to be looking to move McCann a couple weeks ago. While Beniers would be the real win, what would you think about a deal around Wright, McCann, a 2026
1st or 2nd and a RD prospect like Dragicevic or Fiddler??

If no future picks included, could Bolduc, Jiricek and a cap dump like Leddy get that done? If Kyrou going, not sure I’d accept less than a combination of the 4 pieces above. Thoughts??
Personally, I would trade Kyrou straight up for Wright or Berniers.
Berniers is the better center at this point, but he costs 6 million more than wright does. Berniers is 22 and Wright is 21.
I was just thinking that Wright and McCann fill two holes. Wright can be the 2C we need, and McCann can fill in some of the scoring loss we incur by dealing Kyrou, putting less pressure on Bolduc/Snuggs to have to step up. Also moves us toward Army’s goal of three scoring lines.

He is still only 29, signed for 2 more seasons at $5.0m AAV and has scored 22,29,40,27 goals over the past 4 seasons. Also has been over 60 points the last three and can play center if needed in a pinch. Would need another LW to play on their offside though, as JK is one of the few right shot wingers we have. Just spitballing. Personally, I think Kyrou stays.
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Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

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TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:55 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:37 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:18 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:01 am
Nublues69 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:38 am That ship has sailed man. I will say they have like so many talented young centers its crazy
yes they do..they are absolutely loaded at center.
They were rumored to be looking to move McCann a couple weeks ago. While Beniers would be the real win, what would you think about a deal around Wright, McCann, a 2026
1st or 2nd and a RD prospect like Dragicevic or Fiddler??

If no future picks included, could Bolduc, Jiricek and a cap dump like Leddy get that done? If Kyrou going, not sure I’d accept less than a combination of the 4 pieces above. Thoughts??
Personally, I would trade Kyrou straight up for Wright or Berniers.
Berniers is the better center at this point, but he costs 6 million more than wright does. Berniers is 22 and Wright is 21.
I was just thinking that Wright and McCann fill two holes. Wright can be the 2C we need, and McCann can fill in some of the scoring loss we incur by dealing Kyrou, putting less pressure on Bolduc/Snuggs to have to step up. Also moves us toward Army’s goal of three scoring lines.

He is still only 29, signed for 2 more seasons at $5.0m AAV and has scored 22,29,40,27 goals over the past 4 seasons. Also has been over 60 points the last three and can play center if needed in a pinch. Would need another LW to play on their offside though, as JK is one of the few right shot wingers we have. Just spitballing. Personally, I think Kyrou stays.
If you are Seattle, why include McCann? Statwise, Kyrou vs Mccann is almost a wash.... The point (if you are Seattle) is to increase your scoring...so why give up a very similar player to what you are trying to obtain.
We are heavy on the wing...they are heavy at center. I think if something happens between these to teams...it'll be a 1 for 1 deal, maybe a draft pick gets swapped but that's it. Adding Faulk, Leddy, Texier.....detracts from the deal if you are Seattle. If I'm Seattle, I look to make a deal for good players on "Good to Great" contracts.
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I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
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seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
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Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

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TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
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seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Don't forget Morrison and Molgaard.
Seattle has the chips to get a Kyrou deal done. But they'd have to be willing to part with them.
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skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
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kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
Ok we'll add leddy
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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 30 Jun 2025 11:08 am
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
Ok we'll add leddy
Well, I'm fairly convinced that Francis and Botterill are moron's so they might go for Wright AND Beniers(plus a prospect) for Kyrou and Leddy.
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Trading Kyrou 1 for 1 for a young center with big upside ... I wouldn't be upset. Either Wright or Beniers works for me. I'd love to see our wings playing with Thomas, a young center who could become elite with Dvorsky knocking on the door in a year.
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kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Don't forget Morrison and Molgaard.
Seattle has the chips to get a Kyrou deal done. But they'd have to be willing to part with them.
What about those two moves the needle for you?
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seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Are you saying that Seattle would need to add to Wright or Beniers straight up for Kyrou or are you just coveting some of their other prospects in a more expanded transaction?
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Having a hard time seeing Seattle moving Bernier. He's better on face-offs than Wright; 1st P.P.; 2nd P.K.; and likes to shoot more. plus he's their 1st line (4mins more than Wright- who was on their 3rd line). They've made some sneaky good improvement over the past week (Marchment, Gaudreau), but I can't see them moving out Bernier for Kyrou.


guessing it's for Wright; if it does materialize.



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