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Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 19:31 pm
by Melville
russellhammond wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:54 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
Well, yeah...except for the fact that he hasn't been playing 2B, especially during this good period. So there's that....
Using your "logic", Albert Pujols was NOT the RH hitting 1B with the highest HR power ceiling in STL history because only 484 of his 705 career HR came as a first baseman, and of that smaller pool of 484 HR just 354 came while playing 1b for the Cardinals. So there's that...
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 19:34 pm
by Melville
dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:26 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
ME-ville - where have you been ?
Travel nationwide quite a bit with my work.
I go where my clients are and work a lot of hours when advising them.
Sometimes, that means depriving my followers here for stretches of time.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 19:36 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
russellhammond wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 17:35 pm
Gorman is proving to be what he's always been....a player who can have short stints where he hits well, but longer stints when he doesn't hit at all. Nothing new here....except he's 25 instead of 21.
This is exactly how I see it. IMO they are using him precisely how they should.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 19:48 pm
by russellhammond
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:31 pm
russellhammond wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:54 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
Well, yeah...except for the fact that he hasn't been playing 2B, especially during this good period. So there's that....
Using your "logic", Albert Pujols was NOT the RH hitting 1B with the highest HR power ceiling in STL history because only 484 of his 705 career HR came as a first baseman, and of that smaller pool of 484 HR just 354 came while playing 1b for the Cardinals. So there's that...
I'm sorry...I thought the post was about Gorman. I must have missed the Pujols part of the thread. But, regardless, you still can't talk about Gorman as a 2B because he isn't one.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 20:47 pm
by Melville
russellhammond wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:48 pm
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:31 pm
russellhammond wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:54 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
Well, yeah...except for the fact that he hasn't been playing 2B, especially during this good period. So there's that....
Using your "logic", Albert Pujols was NOT the RH hitting 1B with the highest HR power ceiling in STL history because only 484 of his 705 career HR came as a first baseman, and of that smaller pool of 484 HR just 354 came while playing 1b for the Cardinals. So there's that...
I'm sorry...I thought the post was about Gorman. I must have missed the Pujols part of the thread. But, regardless, you still can't talk about Gorman as a 2B because he isn't one.
Which of course means Pujols was not a RH hitting 1b who hit 705 career homeruns.
Simply trying to keep your thinking consistent.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 21:10 pm
by Cusecards
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:34 pm
dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:26 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
ME-ville - where have you been ?
Travel nationwide quite a bit with my work.
I go where my clients are and work a lot of hours when advising them.
Sometimes, that means depriving my followers here for stretches of time.
LMFAO
You don’t travel anywhere, manage anyone, or do squat!
Give us a break Sideshow.
You sit in your bedroom and type away.
But....you are amusing! LOL
Your “act” needs new material. Getting stale.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 21:19 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:10 pm
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:34 pm
dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:26 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
ME-ville - where have you been ?
Travel nationwide quite a bit with my work.
I go where my clients are and work a lot of hours when advising them.
Sometimes, that means depriving my followers here for stretches of time.
LMFAO
You don’t travel anywhere, manage anyone, or do squat!
Give us a break Sideshow.
You sit in your bedroom and type away.
But....you are amusing! LOL
Your “act” needs new material. Getting stale.
He’s a one trick pony
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 21:31 pm
by Cusecards
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:10 pm
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:34 pm
dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:26 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
ME-ville - where have you been ?
Travel nationwide quite a bit with my work.
I go where my clients are and work a lot of hours when advising them.
Sometimes, that means depriving my followers here for stretches of time.
LMFAO
You don’t travel anywhere, manage anyone, or do squat!
Give us a break Sideshow.
You sit in your bedroom and type away.
But....you are amusing! LOL
Your “act” needs new material. Getting stale.
He’s a one trick pony
People who are genuinely accomplished don’t need to constantly blow their own horn.
Their accomplishments speak for themselves.
And they certainly don’t brag and babble on an anonymous message board to complete strangers.
He’s a complete fraud and a pathological liar.
Besides anyone claiming to do what he does would NOT waste their time coming up with childish nicknames for people.
But...he does provide daily laughs which is a plus.
He is the Sideshow Clown.
Easy
Obvious
Correct
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 22:02 pm
by bccardsfan
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:10 pm
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:34 pm
dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:26 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
ME-ville - where have you been ?
Travel nationwide quite a bit with my work.
I go where my clients are and work a lot of hours when advising them.
Sometimes, that means depriving my followers here for stretches of time.
LMFAO
You don’t travel anywhere, manage anyone, or do squat!
Give us a break Sideshow.
You sit in your bedroom and type away.
But....you are amusing! LOL
Your “act” needs new material. Getting stale.
He’s a one trick pony
People who are genuinely accomplished don’t need to constantly blow their own horn.
Their accomplishments speak for themselves.
And they certainly don’t brag and babble on an anonymous message board to complete strangers.
He’s a complete fraud and a pathological liar.
Besides anyone claiming to do what he does would NOT waste their time coming up with childish nicknames for people.
But...he does provide daily laughs which is a plus.
He is the Sideshow Clown.
Easy
Obvious
Correct
I miss Maaarrrgie...much more entertaining schtick
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 22:37 pm
by icon
bccardsfan wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 22:02 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:10 pm
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:34 pm
dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:26 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
ME-ville - where have you been ?
Travel nationwide quite a bit with my work.
I go where my clients are and work a lot of hours when advising them.
Sometimes, that means depriving my followers here for stretches of time.
LMFAO
You don’t travel anywhere, manage anyone, or do squat!
Give us a break Sideshow.
You sit in your bedroom and type away.
But....you are amusing! LOL
Your “act” needs new material. Getting stale.
He’s a one trick pony
People who are genuinely accomplished don’t need to constantly blow their own horn.
Their accomplishments speak for themselves.
And they certainly don’t brag and babble on an anonymous message board to complete strangers.
He’s a complete fraud and a pathological liar.
Besides anyone claiming to do what he does would NOT waste their time coming up with childish nicknames for people.
But...he does provide daily laughs which is a plus.
He is the Sideshow Clown.
Easy
Obvious
Correct
I miss Maaarrrgie...much more entertaining schtick
Yeah, reading Margie was like an acid trip. Really made me think, I think.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 23:12 pm
by bccardsfan
icon wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 22:37 pm
bccardsfan wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 22:02 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 21:10 pm
Melville wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:34 pm
dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 19:26 pm
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
ME-ville - where have you been ?
Travel nationwide quite a bit with my work.
I go where my clients are and work a lot of hours when advising them.
Sometimes, that means depriving my followers here for stretches of time.
LMFAO
You don’t travel anywhere, manage anyone, or do squat!
Give us a break Sideshow.
You sit in your bedroom and type away.
But....you are amusing! LOL
Your “act” needs new material. Getting stale.
He’s a one trick pony
People who are genuinely accomplished don’t need to constantly blow their own horn.
Their accomplishments speak for themselves.
And they certainly don’t brag and babble on an anonymous message board to complete strangers.
He’s a complete fraud and a pathological liar.
Besides anyone claiming to do what he does would NOT waste their time coming up with childish nicknames for people.
But...he does provide daily laughs which is a plus.
He is the Sideshow Clown.
Easy
Obvious
Correct
I miss Maaarrrgie...much more entertaining schtick
Yeah, reading Margie was like an acid trip. Really made me think, I think.
Then she finally came back as WCBW with a story about how she was created. It was always completely out there, yet entertaining, and somehow harmless. I remember the piece she/he wrote about Descalso right before a playoff game. It was just priceless. There is enough narcissism on full display in the world right now, so to have it as the schtick for a CT character is a bit much. Sigh......Maarrgie...was...always...good...for...a...laugh..... You opened those threads immediately to see what harmless conspriacy theory mayhem was afoot today. She didn't clog up the front page with multiple threads like shady maple wally, just often enough for entertainment. Oh well..... now we get attention seekers and narcissists. At least we are not subject to Troell again.....yet....
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 03 Jul 2025 05:53 am
by 2ninr
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:34 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:28 pm
He hasn't changed from what I can tell. Low batting average, home runs, strikeouts.
Chase rate: 24.8% (lowest of his career)
Contact%: 71.8% (Highest of his career)
Zone Contact: 81.6% (highest of his career)
Swing and miss: 13.1% (Lowest of his career)
Line drive rate: 24.5% (2nd highest of his career)
BB%: 11.8% (best of his career)
K%: 28.9% (Lowest of his career)
Ah those pesky facts. And it shows if you know what you are watching.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 03 Jul 2025 07:54 am
by bccardsfan
2ninr wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025 05:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:34 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:28 pm
He hasn't changed from what I can tell. Low batting average, home runs, strikeouts.
Chase rate: 24.8% (lowest of his career)
Contact%: 71.8% (Highest of his career)
Zone Contact: 81.6% (highest of his career)
Swing and miss: 13.1% (Lowest of his career)
Line drive rate: 24.5% (2nd highest of his career)
BB%: 11.8% (best of his career)
K%: 28.9% (Lowest of his career)
Ah those pesky facts. And it shows if you know what you are watching.
Oh Stormin' Norman has definitely been better. It would be wonderful it he could find some way to hit .250 with pop and not KKKKK as much and he is trending in the right direction. He does best when he uses the whole field. He is average at best on D, and perhaps if he were just installed at 3rd he might improve somewhat, and range is not as much of a factor there. But he is not the next Pujols, or some magic unicorn. He is an average defender, .220 power hitting third baseman. He is pretty mediocre at second. I am definitely rooting for him. If he cuts down on the K's, uses the whole field, and simply tries to hit dingers in the right situation, and develops a good two strike approach and plate discipline when needed.... then he would be a lot better.
We shall see. I doubt he is dealt anytime soon.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 03 Jul 2025 08:10 am
by Absolut
Meh.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 03 Jul 2025 08:16 am
by makesnosense
bccardsfan wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025 07:54 am
2ninr wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025 05:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:34 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:28 pm
He hasn't changed from what I can tell. Low batting average, home runs, strikeouts.
Chase rate: 24.8% (lowest of his career)
Contact%: 71.8% (Highest of his career)
Zone Contact: 81.6% (highest of his career)
Swing and miss: 13.1% (Lowest of his career)
Line drive rate: 24.5% (2nd highest of his career)
BB%: 11.8% (best of his career)
K%: 28.9% (Lowest of his career)
Ah those pesky facts. And it shows if you know what you are watching.
Oh Stormin' Norman has definitely been better. It would be wonderful it he could find some way to hit .250 with pop and not KKKKK as much and he is trending in the right direction. He does best when he uses the whole field. He is average at best on D, and perhaps if he were just installed at 3rd he might improve somewhat, and range is not as much of a factor there. But he is not the next Pujols, or some magic unicorn. He is an average defender, .220 power hitting third baseman. He is pretty mediocre at second. I am definitely rooting for him. If he cuts down on the K's, uses the whole field, and simply tries to hit dingers in the right situation, and develops a good two strike approach and plate discipline when needed.... then he would be a lot better.
We shall see. I doubt he is dealt anytime soon.
It is hard to get dealt when you are not good. Who would him? He isn’t playing for any contender. He could get dealt for another over rated, under performing player on a bad team, but how does that help.
Re: Gorman is proving how good he can be as everyday player
Posted: 03 Jul 2025 08:23 am
by makesnosense
Melville wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:22 pm
The Unicorn.
Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
Will his reach that ceiling?
Time will tell.
I would be surprised if he comes within a 100 HRs of Chase Utley.