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Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:49 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:18 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:00 am Don't look now but J. Walker's defense in RF, where he appeared to be showing promise, has turned south.............again.

Walker
-3 DRS
-2 OAA

Meanwhile A. Burleson's defense in RF has actually improved to league average.

Burleson
0 DRS
0 OAA

He is a huge disappointment

I'm starting to wonder scouty, could they actually move on from Walker at seasons end if he shows no improvement and actually go with (gulp) Bumbles in RF?

I mean he is hitting, something Walker was doing before he got hurt but seems to have regressed again.

Agree that Walker should view himself as being at risk.
He and Mootbaar are expendable and Walker lacks the love affair protection given to Lars The Human Sushi-baar.

bccardsfan wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 09:17 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:18 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:00 am Don't look now but J. Walker's defense in RF, where he appeared to be showing promise, has turned south.............again.

Walker
-3 DRS
-2 OAA

Meanwhile A. Burleson's defense in RF has actually improved to league average.

Burleson
0 DRS
0 OAA

He is a huge disappointment

I'm starting to wonder scouty, could they actually move on from Walker at seasons end if he shows no improvement and actually go with (gulp) Bumbles in RF?

I mean he is hitting, something Walker was doing before he got hurt but seems to have regressed again.

I think Walker is on thin ice, but there is no OFer in the minors who is really ready. Baez is crushing it, but that is AA. The problem with Walker is that he has really killed his trade value. His one hit tool was decent average, but now he is struggling to stay above .220. He needs to turn it around this year to have serious trade value. A dilemma. I think Bloom will certainly consider moving JW in the right deal. Again, the problem is that Burley is no OFer. He doesn't kill you at first and actually looks decent there, but you really don't want in the OF every single day. Herrera has no arm, so even if they teach him to play LF, people will run all over him. The team needs a bit of a retool of the roster if they want to have good D in the OF and some bats. We shall see. Baez may turn out to be the real deal, but he is at least a season away. Perhaps he gets a ST invite if he can make the jump to AAA by season's end. He could also be a bust as he moves up, who knows? This team needs at least one really good corner OFer. We all hope that is JW, but not looking good. Taking strike three right down the middle about 4 or 5 times in the last week is getting really old..... hope he gets it together soon.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:00 am

Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:49 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:18 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:00 am Don't look now but J. Walker's defense in RF, where he appeared to be showing promise, has turned south.............again.

Walker
-3 DRS
-2 OAA

Meanwhile A. Burleson's defense in RF has actually improved to league average.

Burleson
0 DRS
0 OAA

He is a huge disappointment

I'm starting to wonder scouty, could they actually move on from Walker at seasons end if he shows no improvement and actually go with (gulp) Bumbles in RF?

I mean he is hitting, something Walker was doing before he got hurt but seems to have regressed again.

Agree that Walker should view himself as being at risk.
He and Mootbaar are expendable and Walker lacks the love affair protection given to Lars The Human Sushi-baar.

Watchout Mel, Noot looks like he's heating up these last three games (1 HR/3 RBI's/3 Walks: .364 .462 .727 1.189)

But I've admitted I was fooled by his advanced metrics and am not as staunch a support as I once was, he could be dealt this offseason.

Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:09 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:00 am

Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:49 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:18 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:00 am Don't look now but J. Walker's defense in RF, where he appeared to be showing promise, has turned south.............again.

Walker
-3 DRS
-2 OAA

Meanwhile A. Burleson's defense in RF has actually improved to league average.

Burleson
0 DRS
0 OAA

He is a huge disappointment

I'm starting to wonder scouty, could they actually move on from Walker at seasons end if he shows no improvement and actually go with (gulp) Bumbles in RF?

I mean he is hitting, something Walker was doing before he got hurt but seems to have regressed again.

Agree that Walker should view himself as being at risk.
He and Mootbaar are expendable and Walker lacks the love affair protection given to Lars The Human Sushi-baar.

Watchout Mel, Noot looks like he's heating up these last three games (1 HR/3 RBI's/3 Walks: .364 .462 .727 1.189)

But I've admitted I was fooled by his advanced metrics and am not as staunch a support as I once was, he could be dealt this offseason.

When Mo falls in love, he falls hard.
1 HR, 3 RBI, 3 walks just might be enough for him to offer Mootbaar a 5 year, 80M extension.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:10 am Walker now at -4 DRS

Not only his throwing error but w/a runner on base he turns around after making the catch (holding the ball) for 3-4 seconds to see if Donny's ok after nearly running over him.

Winn yelling his head off is the only thing that alerted him.

He's just not got his head in the game.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:05 am

bccardsfan wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 09:17 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:18 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:00 am Don't look now but J. Walker's defense in RF, where he appeared to be showing promise, has turned south.............again.

Walker
-3 DRS
-2 OAA

Meanwhile A. Burleson's defense in RF has actually improved to league average.

Burleson
0 DRS
0 OAA

He is a huge disappointment

I'm starting to wonder scouty, could they actually move on from Walker at seasons end if he shows no improvement and actually go with (gulp) Bumbles in RF?

I mean he is hitting, something Walker was doing before he got hurt but seems to have regressed again.

I think Walker is on thin ice, but there is no OFer in the minors who is really ready. Baez is crushing it, but that is AA. The problem with Walker is that he has really killed his trade value. His one hit tool was decent average, but now he is struggling to stay above .220. He needs to turn it around this year to have serious trade value. A dilemma. I think Bloom will certainly consider moving JW in the right deal. Again, the problem is that Burley is no OFer. He doesn't kill you at first and actually looks decent there, but you really don't want in the OF every single day. Herrera has no arm, so even if they teach him to play LF, people will run all over him. The team needs a bit of a retool of the roster if they want to have good D in the OF and some bats. We shall see. Baez may turn out to be the real deal, but he is at least a season away. Perhaps he gets a ST invite if he can make the jump to AAA by season's end. He could also be a bust as he moves up, who knows? This team needs at least one really good corner OFer. We all hope that is JW, but not looking good. Taking strike three right down the middle about 4 or 5 times in the last week is getting really old..... hope he gets it together soon.

Agreed

I don't see Bloom being married to Walker like Mo was and if he gets a solid offer, then he could move on.

If not traded, then he'll get another season due to the dearth of OF prospects, and maybe he should but he ahs to be on that thin ice.

The good news if they do attempt to convert Hererra to LF, something I've been clamoring for since last season, then all he has to do is hit Winn w/a quality relay and the man w/the Golden Arm can more than makeup for Hererra lack of arm strength.

And who knows, maybe throwing from the OF Ivan's got a strong and accurate arm!

JDW wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 11:18 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:05 am

bccardsfan wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 09:17 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:18 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:00 am Don't look now but J. Walker's defense in RF, where he appeared to be showing promise, has turned south.............again.

Walker
-3 DRS
-2 OAA

Meanwhile A. Burleson's defense in RF has actually improved to league average.

Burleson
0 DRS
0 OAA

He is a huge disappointment

I'm starting to wonder scouty, could they actually move on from Walker at seasons end if he shows no improvement and actually go with (gulp) Bumbles in RF?

I mean he is hitting, something Walker was doing before he got hurt but seems to have regressed again.

I think Walker is on thin ice, but there is no OFer in the minors who is really ready. Baez is crushing it, but that is AA. The problem with Walker is that he has really killed his trade value. His one hit tool was decent average, but now he is struggling to stay above .220. He needs to turn it around this year to have serious trade value. A dilemma. I think Bloom will certainly consider moving JW in the right deal. Again, the problem is that Burley is no OFer. He doesn't kill you at first and actually looks decent there, but you really don't want in the OF every single day. Herrera has no arm, so even if they teach him to play LF, people will run all over him. The team needs a bit of a retool of the roster if they want to have good D in the OF and some bats. We shall see. Baez may turn out to be the real deal, but he is at least a season away. Perhaps he gets a ST invite if he can make the jump to AAA by season's end. He could also be a bust as he moves up, who knows? This team needs at least one really good corner OFer. We all hope that is JW, but not looking good. Taking strike three right down the middle about 4 or 5 times in the last week is getting really old..... hope he gets it together soon.

Agreed

I don't see Bloom being married to Walker like Mo was and if he gets a solid offer, then he could move on.

If not traded, then he'll get another season due to the dearth of OF prospects, and maybe he should but he ahs to be on that thin ice.

The good news if they do attempt to convert Hererra to LF, something I've been clamoring for since last season, then all he has to do is hit Winn w/a quality relay and the man w/the Golden Arm can more than makeup for Hererra lack of arm strength.

And who knows, maybe throwing from the OF Ivan's got a strong and accurate arm!

To your last point, yeah, even a weak throwing MLB C may have a very adequate arm for LF, so it'll be interesting to see what it looks like.
It's a lot different throwing with your momentum coming in like you're alluding to versus popping up from the squat position.
I almost misspelled the "popping" position with an extra o and one less p. It's a (A female canine animal, especially a dog) behind the plate.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:11 am

Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:09 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 10:00 am

Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:49 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:18 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:00 am Don't look now but J. Walker's defense in RF, where he appeared to be showing promise, has turned south.............again.

Walker
-3 DRS
-2 OAA

Meanwhile A. Burleson's defense in RF has actually improved to league average.

Burleson
0 DRS
0 OAA

He is a huge disappointment

I'm starting to wonder scouty, could they actually move on from Walker at seasons end if he shows no improvement and actually go with (gulp) Bumbles in RF?

I mean he is hitting, something Walker was doing before he got hurt but seems to have regressed again.

Agree that Walker should view himself as being at risk.
He and Mootbaar are expendable and Walker lacks the love affair protection given to Lars The Human Sushi-baar.

Watchout Mel, Noot looks like he's heating up these last three games (1 HR/3 RBI's/3 Walks: .364 .462 .727 1.189)

But I've admitted I was fooled by his advanced metrics and am not as staunch a support as I once was, he could be dealt this offseason.

When Mo falls in love, he falls hard.
1 HR, 3 RBI, 3 walks just might be enough for him to offer Mootbaar a 5 year, 80M extension.

Wait

Please keep Mo away from any extensions!