Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect

[sikeston bulldog2]

I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???

Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.

Possibly but doubtful as Helsley is a pending FA and I doubt any team gives up that much under the circumstances?

Stay tuned. Some team just might be really starved for a deep playoffs run.

Probably best for you to stand down for a while, Shady.

Agreed, just a breather to gather and re-group

The OP is very clear and concise. Transitions well. A smart writer. He seems to be a poster who wants to communicate.

His knock is numerous threads and repetitive subjects. Nothing wrong here.

As Joel first told me many many years ago- “ just throw it up against the wall. You never know what might stick.”

[Cranny]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

Very much easy. We already saved the Goldie monies by letting him walk. Mik and Matz is another 30 M, and I didn’t even up the payroll. Yet?

Remember my write. I said two more years. One year you get a stud LF or Thirdbase man. Just one.

Second year TOR to go with McG Pallante maybe Gray:

I spent only twice, over two years. After moving dead weight.

Fits easy.

[rockondlouie]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

[Futuregm2]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

It shouldn’t be that hard, aren’t we already down like $50 million from previous years? And on top of that have Mikolas/Matz gone after this year and Arenado’s salary drops by $10 million in 2027.

[craviduce]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

why does it "need to be"???....when they've said they're moving forward with a smaller budget.

Why can't some of the fan base come to grips with this?

And then...we have the likely work stoppage in 2027. You have the New CBA uncertainty, which will redefine players salaries and team budgets, profit sharing, etc, etc. With zero idea on how every thing will work, why in the world would this team, and most midmarket and all low market teams spend any significant money this season and next? Why????

Makes no sense to spend under these circumstances.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

[Shady]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

[Futuregm2]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

You forgot B&B, Bernal and Baez.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

If just three become main stays it’s a Winn.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

Really hate to count on walker, he does nothing well

[craviduce]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

You forgot B&B, Bernal and Baez.

He hasn't discovered one of their box scores yet. But when he does, I expect the rest of you to act astonished and in awe of his latest find. Where would we be without him?

[Futuregm2]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

You forgot B&B, Bernal and Baez.

He hasn't discovered one of their box scores yet. But when he does, I expect the rest of you to act astonished and in awe of his latest find. Where would we be without him?

I pray he never does, but I’m sure one of these days he will.

[Adam2]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

You forgot B&B, Bernal and Baez.

He hasn't discovered one of their box scores yet. But when he does, I expect the rest of you to act astonished and in awe of his latest find. Where would we be without him?

lol god no

[Mort Gage]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

If our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.

Beyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.

Really hate to count on walker, he does nothing well

If you are curious about the reason for your unpopularity on this board here is Exhibit A. Creating sock puppets and having conversations with yourself is pathetic and annoying. Knock it off.

[rockondlouie]

Reasonable OP.

The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.

Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.

2027- power house.

Patience men.

How will that fit into the budget, Dawg?

I see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.

BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.

why does it "need to be"???....when they've said they're moving forward with a smaller budget.

Why can't some of the fan base come to grips with this?

And then...we have the likely work stoppage in 2027. You have the New CBA uncertainty, which will redefine players salaries and team budgets, profit sharing, etc, etc. With zero idea on how every thing will work, why in the world would this team, and most midmarket and all low market teams spend any significant money this season and next? Why????

Makes no sense to spend under these circumstances.

I don't give a c r a p what BDWJr say's, of course he wants to have as low a payroll as he can but to accept that, in this city where he's drawn 3+M for decades, isn't going to happen and nor should it.

I know you love the kids from the minor leagues and want to see them playing in St. Louis, I respect that.

And some actually do come thru the system and make an impact.

Of course you need to draft and development internally, we're all for that!

But there's absolutely no way whatsoever to compete for another WS title unless you have a budget ($175M minimum) that allows C. Bloom to fill in the (many) missing pieces this team needs to compete again.

You need both (internal players drafter + traded for or signed established major league talent) to win.

No one knows if there will be a work stoppage, too much to lose on both sides (owners TV money/gates/ect...) and players (massive salaries they would never recoup).

This is a "mid market team" population wise, but they're fan base makes them a large regional team that has drawn near the top of MLB in attendance for decades.

They DON'T lack revenue, haven't for decades.

Unless BDWJr is happy drawing 2.2-2.5M -vs- 3.1-3.4M, then he'll spend.

I don't think C. Bloom would've taken the job w/o this guarantee (he already got shafted in Boston, too smart to let it happen again).

Respect as always, not in agreement here.

Dewitt must give Bloom the same financial payroll support he gave Mo and I think he will.

JMO