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Re: Devers to Giants

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Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:19 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:15 pm Not knowing everyone involved, the Giants have to be ecstatic about acquiring Devers and getting out from under the contract to Hicks.
Have you seen Devers contract? :lol:

Yeah I’ve seen it. Not knowing Devers as a person, there is a boatload of production for the money. Maybe he’s a d••• and maybe he isn’t but he can hit.

The Giants signed Hicks last year to a 4/44 deal and honestly didn’t know what to do with him. His ERA is over 6.00. His WHIP is almost 1.60. He has an ERA+ of 59. They had no place to use him.
Devers has some warts. Seems like a bit of a jerk, but the Red Sox paid him to be their third baseman and franchise player then asked him to move positions (yes I know the defensive metrics are bad). He also seems like the sort of player that may not age well. That being said, he's still pretty young and can still rake. After seeing the new contract Vlad Guerrero signed, the Devers contract doesn't look that bad. Just wait till we see what Kyle Tucker gets paid.
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Re: Devers to Giants

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lordoffatness wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:19 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:15 pm Not knowing everyone involved, the Giants have to be ecstatic about acquiring Devers and getting out from under the contract to Hicks.
Have you seen Devers contract? :lol:

Yeah I’ve seen it. Not knowing Devers as a person, there is a boatload of production for the money. Maybe he’s a d••• and maybe he isn’t but he can hit.

The Giants signed Hicks last year to a 4/44 deal and honestly didn’t know what to do with him. His ERA is over 6.00. His WHIP is almost 1.60. He has an ERA+ of 59. They had no place to use him.
Devers has some warts. Seems like a bit of a jerk, but the Red Sox paid him to be their third baseman and franchise player then asked him to move positions (yes I know the defensive metrics are bad). He also seems like the sort of player that may not age well. That being said, he's still pretty young and can still rake. After seeing the new contract Vlad Guerrero signed, the Devers.contract doesn't look that bad.
Unless you have to pay it
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Re: Devers to Giants

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lordoffatness wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:19 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:15 pm Not knowing everyone involved, the Giants have to be ecstatic about acquiring Devers and getting out from under the contract to Hicks.
Have you seen Devers contract? :lol:

Yeah I’ve seen it. Not knowing Devers as a person, there is a boatload of production for the money. Maybe he’s a d••• and maybe he isn’t but he can hit.

The Giants signed Hicks last year to a 4/44 deal and honestly didn’t know what to do with him. His ERA is over 6.00. His WHIP is almost 1.60. He has an ERA+ of 59. They had no place to use him.
Devers has some warts. Seems like a bit of a jerk, but the Red Sox paid him to be their third baseman and franchise player then asked him to move positions (yes I know the defensive metrics are bad). He also seems like the sort of player that may not age well. That being said, he's still pretty young and can still rake. After seeing the new contract Vlad Guerrero signed, the Devers contract doesn't look that bad.
He will be 29 this year and paid thru age 36
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imadangman wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:14 pm He will hit 50 doubles in that park
And how many homers into McCovey Cove?
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icon wrote: 15 Jun 2025 19:51 pm
Goldfan wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:09 pm What……deals can be done now?????
Bloom….take the reigns and start dealing so you can have YOUR team in ‘26 and not lose another YEAR
You can deal a few now and probably end up with a better team…..Get er done
The Cardinals traded for Lou Brock on this date in 1964. But Mozeliak wasn't around then.
Mo would have traded Gibby for Brock.
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Re: Devers to Giants

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lordoffatness wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:19 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:15 pm Not knowing everyone involved, the Giants have to be ecstatic about acquiring Devers and getting out from under the contract to Hicks.
Have you seen Devers contract? :lol:

Yeah I’ve seen it. Not knowing Devers as a person, there is a boatload of production for the money. Maybe he’s a d••• and maybe he isn’t but he can hit.

The Giants signed Hicks last year to a 4/44 deal and honestly didn’t know what to do with him. His ERA is over 6.00. His WHIP is almost 1.60. He has an ERA+ of 59. They had no place to use him.
Devers has some warts. Seems like a bit of a jerk, but the Red Sox paid him to be their third baseman and franchise player then asked him to move positions (yes I know the defensive metrics are bad). He also seems like the sort of player that may not age well. That being said, he's still pretty young and can still rake. After seeing the new contract Vlad Guerrero signed, the Devers contract doesn't look that bad.

I would take Devers and his warts all day long. Especially for what they had to give up. Jordan Hicks and Kyle Harrison?? I’m not sure that Matz and McGreevy aren’t a better pitching combination. The Giants #4 prospect and another pitching prospect which I didn’t see in the Giants top 20.

The Devers contract, which might have seemed big at the time has been passed several times since and Devers is only 28. Where will Devers play? It won’t be 3B. He will play 1B or DH for the Giants and will hit a ton in SF. A player like Devers is exactly what the Cardinals could use.
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Re: Devers to Giants

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:12 pm
lordoffatness wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:19 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:15 pm Not knowing everyone involved, the Giants have to be ecstatic about acquiring Devers and getting out from under the contract to Hicks.
Have you seen Devers contract? :lol:

Yeah I’ve seen it. Not knowing Devers as a person, there is a boatload of production for the money. Maybe he’s a d••• and maybe he isn’t but he can hit.

The Giants signed Hicks last year to a 4/44 deal and honestly didn’t know what to do with him. His ERA is over 6.00. His WHIP is almost 1.60. He has an ERA+ of 59. They had no place to use him.
Devers has some warts. Seems like a bit of a jerk, but the Red Sox paid him to be their third baseman and franchise player then asked him to move positions (yes I know the defensive metrics are bad). He also seems like the sort of player that may not age well. That being said, he's still pretty young and can still rake. After seeing the new contract Vlad Guerrero signed, the Devers contract doesn't look that bad.
He will be 29 this year and paid thru age 36
I understand completely, but that's better than a lot of the huge contracts. Devers made his debut pretty young.

Here are some of the huge contracts (I understand some of these players are much better, but there aren't a lot of these huge contracts to compare):
Guerrero: age 39 season
Ohtani: age 38
Soto: age 41
Judge: age 39
Lindor: age 37
Stanton: 37ish (yanks will probably buyout)
Trout: age 38
Betts: age 39
Freeman: age 37
Chapman: age 37
Olson: age 36ish
Seager: age 37
Semien: age 37
Rendon: age 36

Some are much better....Tatis, Acuna, Julio Rodriguez, etc

Tucker is the same age as Devers and may sign a 10+ year contract for probably $200 million more than what Devers is getting
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BoSox @ Giants next weekend should be worth a look.
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Re: Devers to Giants

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icon wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:12 pm
imadangman wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:14 pm He will hit 50 doubles in that park
And how many homers into McCovey Cove?
About 32
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Re: Devers to Giants

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Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:25 pm
lordoffatness wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:19 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:15 pm Not knowing everyone involved, the Giants have to be ecstatic about acquiring Devers and getting out from under the contract to Hicks.
Have you seen Devers contract? :lol:

Yeah I’ve seen it. Not knowing Devers as a person, there is a boatload of production for the money. Maybe he’s a d••• and maybe he isn’t but he can hit.

The Giants signed Hicks last year to a 4/44 deal and honestly didn’t know what to do with him. His ERA is over 6.00. His WHIP is almost 1.60. He has an ERA+ of 59. They had no place to use him.
Devers has some warts. Seems like a bit of a jerk, but the Red Sox paid him to be their third baseman and franchise player then asked him to move positions (yes I know the defensive metrics are bad). He also seems like the sort of player that may not age well. That being said, he's still pretty young and can still rake. After seeing the new contract Vlad Guerrero signed, the Devers contract doesn't look that bad.

I would take Devers and his warts all day long. Especially for what they had to give up. Jordan Hicks and Kyle Harrison?? I’m not sure that Matz and McGreevy aren’t a better pitching combination. The Giants #4 prospect and another pitching prospect which I didn’t see in the Giants top 20.

The Devers contract, which might have seemed big at the time has been passed several times since and Devers is only 28. Where will Devers play? It won’t be 3B. He will play 1B or DH for the Giants and will hit a ton in SF. A player like Devers is exactly what the Cardinals could use.
Yeah I'd definitely consider it.
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swatski wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:14 pm
icon wrote: 15 Jun 2025 19:51 pm
Goldfan wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:09 pm What……deals can be done now?????
Bloom….take the reigns and start dealing so you can have YOUR team in ‘26 and not lose another YEAR
You can deal a few now and probably end up with a better team…..Get er done
The Cardinals traded for Lou Brock on this date in 1964. But Mozeliak wasn't around then.
Mo would have traded Gibby for Brock.
That's scary. How good would the Cubbies have been with Gibby and Feggie Jenkins starting? Wowser.
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Re: Devers to Giants

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Cusecards wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:17 pm Wow!
Sox had obviously had enough of Devers and his act.
A little surprised Giants took on that contract with a player that seems to have some issues?
Then again they may feel they have to roll the dice a bit seeing as they are up against the Dodgers and Padres?
Devers owed $255M. Time will tell.
That's a lot of money.

I wonder if the SOX are picking up any part of Devers salary?

ANyone got the details?
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Red Bird Classic wrote: 15 Jun 2025 22:48 pm
Cusecards wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:17 pm Wow!
Sox had obviously had enough of Devers and his act.
A little surprised Giants took on that contract with a player that seems to have some issues?
Then again they may feel they have to roll the dice a bit seeing as they are up against the Dodgers and Padres?
Devers owed $255M. Time will tell.
That's a lot of money.

I wonder if the SOX are picking up any part of Devers salary?

ANyone got the details?
Haven’t seen any.
Maybe Giants underpaid in talent because they were willing to take on the contract??
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Re: Devers to Giants

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Cusecards wrote: 16 Jun 2025 08:37 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 15 Jun 2025 22:48 pm
Cusecards wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:17 pm Wow!
Sox had obviously had enough of Devers and his act.
A little surprised Giants took on that contract with a player that seems to have some issues?
Then again they may feel they have to roll the dice a bit seeing as they are up against the Dodgers and Padres?
Devers owed $255M. Time will tell.
That's a lot of money.

I wonder if the SOX are picking up any part of Devers salary?

ANyone got the details?
Haven’t seen any.
Maybe Giants underpaid in talent because they were willing to take on the contract??
In addition to Hicks, the Red Sox got back some prospects (Harrison and Tibbs), and apparently sent 20 or 30 million back to the Giants to complete the deal. So The SOX got rid of a player they didn't want anymore, saved a lot of money, and got back at least one decent prospect.

So not a complete salary dump, but mainly that.
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WLTFE wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:13 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:10 pm I love it when teams try to win.

Wish the Cardinals tried to win.
But...but....DeTwit and Mo-ran have done everything to win...the players are at fault!
Dam. N. The players. It is all their fault. It couldn’t be the fault of those who evaluate the talent? Remember when Moe told the world a relief pitcher he signed in the offseason (whose name escapes me) was going to be our closer, only to find out later his arm had fallen off? Those players are all to blame.
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Re: Devers to Giants

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:19 pm
Whatashame wrote: 15 Jun 2025 18:15 pm Not knowing everyone involved, the Giants have to be ecstatic about acquiring Devers and getting out from under the contract to Hicks.
Have you seen Devers contract? :lol:
Dude, you got to pay for good players which unfortunately the Cardinals never do. They are in the bottom tier of the league when it comes to largest contracts ever. Goldschmidt contract was the biggest one ever.
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