callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
I don't like to pretend to be knowledgeable of the youth players in hockey. But, personally I would be looking to trade their 1st rounder for a player if there's any value deemed at our pick. The Blues have a chance to piece together something special if they can get 3 year aging guy who still has something left, or a 25 year old stuck in a bad situation like buffalo. There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice. I'd be looking to make moves for NHL ready guys unless the Blues think they have too much of a log jam now with the acquisitions of Holloway and Broberg last year. They actually might be in a position where they have too many guys in the same age bracket and it might cause problems down the line.
Good point. I myself was wondering how we could pull a deal with Buffalo.
Noah Ostlund was selected in 2022 ahead of Snuggerud. He is listed as a center. 36 pts in 45 AHL games. Buffalo has Norris signed long term as a center, Kulich is RFA in 2 years, McLeod is a RFA now, Krebs RFA in 1 yr on 4th line.
They also have Konsta Helenius developing as a center in AHL along with Anton Walberg, and (Isak Rosen as #14 in 21 1st round RW'er.)
Peterka is a RFA on Left Wing--He needs a new contract (after a great year.)
Im not sure if it would be a good fit. They have some interesting young players and prospects.
Just saw the Hawks would consider moving the #3. I imagine they are looking for immediate help. Justin Faulk would totes help them, right!!! Faulk and 19 for 3 definitely seems fair!!
sdaltons wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:33 am
Just saw the Hawks would consider moving the #3. I imagine they are looking for immediate help. Justin Faulk would totes help them, right!!! Faulk and 19 for 3 definitely seems fair!!
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice.
Which players?
"Reporters on Reddit" doesn't strike me as reliable information, but if true then I'd really like to know who wants out.
Are we talking current roster players? Any of Norris, Thompson, McLeod, Dahlin, Power, or Samuelsson should probably be on our radar if true.
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice.
Which players?
"Reporters on Reddit" doesn't strike me as reliable information, but if true then I'd really like to know who wants out.
Are we talking current roster players? Any of Norris, Thompson, McLeod, Dahlin, Power, or Samuelsson should probably be on our radar if true.
There's been links to a few players but 2 days ago friedman said JJ Peterka who previously was untouchable, they are now listening about.
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice.
Which players?
"Reporters on Reddit" doesn't strike me as reliable information, but if true then I'd really like to know who wants out.
Are we talking current roster players? Any of Norris, Thompson, McLeod, Dahlin, Power, or Samuelsson should probably be on our radar if true.
You arent getting any answers. Its Peterka only. He may sign in Buffalo. We wont know these answers. Not public knowledge. Havent heard any discussions. Guys have contracts. Peterka is a RFA.
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice.
Which players?
"Reporters on Reddit" doesn't strike me as reliable information, but if true then I'd really like to know who wants out.
Are we talking current roster players? Any of Norris, Thompson, McLeod, Dahlin, Power, or Samuelsson should probably be on our radar if true.
Frank Saravalli said in his podcast 3 weeks ago that he thinks things have gone sideways between Buffalo and Peterka and that they may not have a choice but to trade him.
How true is that? Idk. But Buffalo isn’t exactly a super desirable city and the org is run horribly so it’d certainly make sense that some of the players would want out. Just like ROR, Eichel, Reinhart etc forced their way out. Heck, Patrik Berglund hated Buffalo so much he gave up millions and quit hockey all together.
Buffalo could absolutely be a prime trade partner.
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice.
Which players?
"Reporters on Reddit" doesn't strike me as reliable information, but if true then I'd really like to know who wants out.
Are we talking current roster players? Any of Norris, Thompson, McLeod, Dahlin, Power, or Samuelsson should probably be on our radar if true.
Frank Saravalli said in his podcast 3 weeks ago that he thinks things have gone sideways between Buffalo and Peterka and that they may not have a choice but to trade him.
How true is that? Idk. But Buffalo isn’t exactly a super desirable city and the org is run horribly so it’d certainly make sense that some of the players would want out. Just like ROR, Eichel, Reinhart etc forced their way out. Heck, Patrik Berglund hated Buffalo so much he gave up millions and quit hockey all together.
Buffalo could absolutely be a prime trade partner.
Which is really weird because the Bills players love it there. Both are owned by Pegula, but doesn't his wife essentially run the Sabres?
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice.
Which players?
"Reporters on Reddit" doesn't strike me as reliable information, but if true then I'd really like to know who wants out.
Are we talking current roster players? Any of Norris, Thompson, McLeod, Dahlin, Power, or Samuelsson should probably be on our radar if true.
Frank Saravalli said in his podcast 3 weeks ago that he thinks things have gone sideways between Buffalo and Peterka and that they may not have a choice but to trade him.
How true is that? Idk. But Buffalo isn’t exactly a super desirable city and the org is run horribly so it’d certainly make sense that some of the players would want out. Just like ROR, Eichel, Reinhart etc forced their way out. Heck, Patrik Berglund hated Buffalo so much he gave up millions and quit hockey all together.
Buffalo could absolutely be a prime trade partner.
Which is really weird because the Bills players love it there. Both are owned by Pegula, but doesn't his wife essentially run the Sabres?
I guess it is consistently poor management. The Oilers are kind of the same thing, but at least their prior incompetence got them McDavid and Draisaitl. They are living off of that, but how many GM’s do they have to go thru before one figures out how to build a real team around those two.
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:25 am
There is a TON of noise coming out of Buffalo on reddit where reporters are claiming players want out. They don't see the vision. Buffalo obviously doesn't want to keep up this tailspin but it might not be their choice.
Which players?
"Reporters on Reddit" doesn't strike me as reliable information, but if true then I'd really like to know who wants out.
Are we talking current roster players? Any of Norris, Thompson, McLeod, Dahlin, Power, or Samuelsson should probably be on our radar if true.
Frank Saravalli said in his podcast 3 weeks ago that he thinks things have gone sideways between Buffalo and Peterka and that they may not have a choice but to trade him.
How true is that? Idk. But Buffalo isn’t exactly a super desirable city and the org is run horribly so it’d certainly make sense that some of the players would want out. Just like ROR, Eichel, Reinhart etc forced their way out. Heck, Patrik Berglund hated Buffalo so much he gave up millions and quit hockey all together.
Buffalo could absolutely be a prime trade partner.
Which is really weird because the Bills players love it there. Both are owned by Pegula, but doesn't his wife essentially run the Sabres?
I guess it is consistently poor management. The Oilers are kind of the same thing, but at least their prior incompetence got them McDavid and Draisaitl. They are living off of that, but how many GM’s do they have to go thru before one figures out how to build a real team around those two.
Now though will McDavid extend in Edmonton or does Edmonton turn the page and get a monster haul for him, from say LA? Then if im Edmonton Im getting a stud young center and a goalie in that deal and i can build around Leon, Bouchard, Hyman still enough there to be a good franchise. Find a good young 2c to put behind Leon but the immediate issue is for me they need a 2nd RW and i dont like much of their bottom 6 at all, like any of them. Podkolzin is okay, Frederic could be ok with better grinders but Henrique and the rest kind suck
TBone wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 08:52 amShould the Blues consider trading back at the NHL Draft?
By Joe DeMarini
June 14, 2025
Yesterday, we looked at ways the St. Louis Blues could move up in the draft order, if any teams were willing and the Blues could find the right mix of assets to make it happen. We've also talked about which prospects might be available at 19th overall, and that the Blues would likely get a good prospect there, too. Today, we're going to assess whether trading back would make sense for the Blues.
As we all well know, the Blues used their 2025 2nd- and 3rd-round picks last summer to offer sheet Philip Broberg and Dylan Holloway; they also used their 2025 4th-round pick to acquire Alexandre Texier from the Columbus Blue Jackets, and their 7th-round pick was used to acquire Jakub Vrana two years ago. All told, the Blues have picks in the first, fifth, and sixth rounds of the 2025 draft.
Dropping down a few slots in the draft order to get an extra pick in the second or third round could be a way to fortify the pipeline with more prospects and still get a promising young player. So, which teams could the Blues talk to?
We don't need more fodder. We need to try and get the best skilled big RHD available at 19th pick.
Why do we need to do that? Unless we're talking about a top 3 pick who is NHL ready, any player we pick at 19 isn't going to be ready for years. By that time the team need will be different. BPA always.
You make a valid point. We don't need a more fodder...we need the highest quality fodder, with which we can fill a more pressing need sooner via other than the draft.
TBone wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 08:52 amShould the Blues consider trading back at the NHL Draft?
By Joe DeMarini
June 14, 2025
Yesterday, we looked at ways the St. Louis Blues could move up in the draft order, if any teams were willing and the Blues could find the right mix of assets to make it happen. We've also talked about which prospects might be available at 19th overall, and that the Blues would likely get a good prospect there, too. Today, we're going to assess whether trading back would make sense for the Blues.
As we all well know, the Blues used their 2025 2nd- and 3rd-round picks last summer to offer sheet Philip Broberg and Dylan Holloway; they also used their 2025 4th-round pick to acquire Alexandre Texier from the Columbus Blue Jackets, and their 7th-round pick was used to acquire Jakub Vrana two years ago. All told, the Blues have picks in the first, fifth, and sixth rounds of the 2025 draft.
Dropping down a few slots in the draft order to get an extra pick in the second or third round could be a way to fortify the pipeline with more prospects and still get a promising young player. So, which teams could the Blues talk to?
We don't need more fodder. We need to try and get the best skilled big RHD available at 19th pick.
Why do we need to do that? Unless we're talking about a top 3 pick who is NHL ready, any player we pick at 19 isn't going to be ready for years. By that time the team need will be different. BPA always.
You make a valid point. We don't need a more fodder...we need the highest quality fodder, with which we can fill a more pressing need sooner via other than the draft.
