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Re: Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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Barking Lion wrote: 12 Jun 2025 05:53 am Craziness! If you can get a good return for Arenado, of course you trade him, but the presumption that he can be replaced by Gorman is absurd. Gorman has been given opportunities and continues to be what he is-- big potential with some power, but very poor average and questionable glove. Wetherholt? Maybe, but there is no reason to give Arenado away.
Gorman just turned 25. Needs to play everyday.
As far as his glove goes, he's made two errors all season and none while playing third base.

You trade Nado to play Gorman everyday. If his bat doesn't come around, in 2026 Cards are looking at Hurdy Gurdy, Saggese, or Wetherholt at third.
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Re: Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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2ninr wrote: 12 Jun 2025 06:02 am
Melville wrote: 11 Jun 2025 21:07 pm
DRoss wrote: 11 Jun 2025 19:47 pm If management truly want to get Gorman in the lineup but cannot trade Nado, then they should release him and eat the remainder of his contract.
Better yet - bench him.
That might expand his list.
I like the way you think.
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Re: Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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Melville wrote: 11 Jun 2025 08:32 am
amaram wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:37 am I think we have to just give him away, who’s looking for an 7th place hitter that plays good 3rd base defense. I just don’t see anybody giving anything up of worth.
Super Slo Mo had N/A traded twice.
The first time, N/A refused to go to Houston.
The second time, when Mo wisely declined the Yankees offer of Stroman in return, The Yankees made a different offer and DeWitt refused to eat what I believe was around 15M for the Yankees to simply take N/A off STL's hands.
In other words, there were at least 2 known matches last offseason.
Should be even easier now.
Two reasons.
One, as others have noted, N/A is only owed an average of 15.5M the next 2 years and there will be only about 8M remaining for this season at the deadline.
Two, N/A's defense has improved compared to the prior 2 seasons and his bat has stabilized at last year's level without further decline - which gives other teams a bit more certainty as to what they would be acquiring.
Now, it would certainly be helpful if N/A could hit reasonably well over the next 30 days.
But if he simply plays as he has so far this year, a trade should be quite simple to accommodate - albeit with very limited return.
Now, there is one, shall we say, wildcard.
N/A claims to want to win a WS ring - or at least have a shot at one in the postseason - before he hangs up his cleats.
But, that clearly is not really true.
What N/A really wants is to be comfortable, to be at ease, to be free from scrutiny - while teammates carry the load of expectations and leadership.
And that just might compel him to stay right where he is at.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
I'll bet the Cardinals would take that second Yankees deal.
Teams generally don't trade for a $16M defensive first third baseman. The Cardinals are most likely stuck with him for the remainder of his contract.
If the Cardinals were a contending team with no third baseman, and you see Nolan Arenado is on the block with a .303 OBP and .695 OPS with a good glove, I'd imagine you'd suggest the Cardinals pass.
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Re: Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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woofy25 wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:00 am
Melville wrote: 11 Jun 2025 08:32 am
amaram wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:37 am I think we have to just give him away, who’s looking for an 7th place hitter that plays good 3rd base defense. I just don’t see anybody giving anything up of worth.
Super Slo Mo had N/A traded twice.
The first time, N/A refused to go to Houston.
The second time, when Mo wisely declined the Yankees offer of Stroman in return, The Yankees made a different offer and DeWitt refused to eat what I believe was around 15M for the Yankees to simply take N/A off STL's hands.
In other words, there were at least 2 known matches last offseason.
Should be even easier now.
Two reasons.
One, as others have noted, N/A is only owed an average of 15.5M the next 2 years and there will be only about 8M remaining for this season at the deadline.
Two, N/A's defense has improved compared to the prior 2 seasons and his bat has stabilized at last year's level without further decline - which gives other teams a bit more certainty as to what they would be acquiring.
Now, it would certainly be helpful if N/A could hit reasonably well over the next 30 days.
But if he simply plays as he has so far this year, a trade should be quite simple to accommodate - albeit with very limited return.
Now, there is one, shall we say, wildcard.
N/A claims to want to win a WS ring - or at least have a shot at one in the postseason - before he hangs up his cleats.
But, that clearly is not really true.
What N/A really wants is to be comfortable, to be at ease, to be free from scrutiny - while teammates carry the load of expectations and leadership.
And that just might compel him to stay right where he is at.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
I'll bet the Cardinals would take that second Yankees deal.
Teams generally don't trade for a $16M defensive first third baseman. The Cardinals are most likely stuck with him for the remainder of his contract.
If the Cardinals were a contending team with no third baseman, and you see Nolan Arenado is on the block with a .303 OBP and .695 OPS with a good glove, I'd imagine you'd suggest the Cardinals pass.
3B is not a position of strength in MLB right now.
N/A is #11 in HR, #5 in RBI, #13 in doubles, and his .242 BA is #12 among staring 3B with 200 or more AB's.
His defense is much improved from the past 2 years (and that does matter a lot in the playoffs when pitching and defense become a premium).
Bottom line, as improbable as it is, he is in the top 1/3 of MLB third basemen right now.
Yes, at 15.5M over the next 2 years, there will be available trade matches next month.
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Re: Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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Melville wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:17 am


3B is not a position of strength in MLB right now.
N/A is #11 in HR, #5 in RBI, #13 in doubles, and his .242 BA is #12 among staring 3B with 200 or more AB's.
His defense is much improved from the past 2 years (and that does matter a lot in the playoffs when pitching and defense become a premium).
Bottom line, as improbable as it is, he is in the top 1/3 of MLB third basemen right now.
Yes, at 15.5M over the next 2 years, there will be available trade matches next month.
It reminds me of the last couple years with Freese.
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Re: Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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Keep Arenado since his trade value is not good and his defense superb. Also, the club is not worried about winning the next couple of seasons so his presence won’t hurt.
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Re: Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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Cardly wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:35 am Keep Arenado since his trade value is not good and his defense superb. Also, the club is not worried about winning the next couple of seasons so his presence won’t hurt.
Agreed
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