Not sure why everyone is going nuts about Donny moving from 2ndMonsieur De Treville wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:25 amWhy not Hurdy Gurdy in LF and JJ at second? Might just be the best double play combo we've had since Smith & Herr.Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:37 am Scott is great on defense but iffy on offense. Chase Davis is stalling at AA in CF so I'm wondering if JJ should get a look in CF. When he's ready to come up he will be blocked at 2b with Donovan and Saggese waiting and with Arenado and/or Gorman at third and Winn at SS it seems like we either trade to make space for him or find another spot for him. We know he can play 2b, SS and third. I'd appreciate Craviduce and others weighing in on Weatherholt as a center fielder. Just a thought.
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Yeah, I don't get it. Hurdy Gurdy plays a fine second base and a fine left field.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 15:17 pmNot sure why everyone is going nuts about Donny moving from 2ndMonsieur De Treville wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:25 amWhy not Hurdy Gurdy in LF and JJ at second? Might just be the best double play combo we've had since Smith & Herr.Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:37 am Scott is great on defense but iffy on offense. Chase Davis is stalling at AA in CF so I'm wondering if JJ should get a look in CF. When he's ready to come up he will be blocked at 2b with Donovan and Saggese waiting and with Arenado and/or Gorman at third and Winn at SS it seems like we either trade to make space for him or find another spot for him. We know he can play 2b, SS and third. I'd appreciate Craviduce and others weighing in on Weatherholt as a center fielder. Just a thought.
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As stated, IMO he has an improved ability to stay on the team longer in LF.Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 15:31 pmYeah, I don't get it. Hurdy Gurdy plays a fine second base and a fine left field.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 15:17 pmNot sure why everyone is going nuts about Donny moving from 2ndMonsieur De Treville wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:25 amWhy not Hurdy Gurdy in LF and JJ at second? Might just be the best double play combo we've had since Smith & Herr.Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:37 am Scott is great on defense but iffy on offense. Chase Davis is stalling at AA in CF so I'm wondering if JJ should get a look in CF. When he's ready to come up he will be blocked at 2b with Donovan and Saggese waiting and with Arenado and/or Gorman at third and Winn at SS it seems like we either trade to make space for him or find another spot for him. We know he can play 2b, SS and third. I'd appreciate Craviduce and others weighing in on Weatherholt as a center fielder. Just a thought.
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I think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
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Davis is plummeting. Batting .219 with a .687 OPS. He plays a great CF but the bat has been a problem it seems.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
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+1moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:39 amif saggese is blocking him, there's bigger problemsGalatians221jb1 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:37 am Scott is great on defense but iffy on offense. Chase Davis is stalling at AA in CF so I'm wondering if JJ should get a look in CF. When he's ready to come up he will be blocked at 2b with Donovan and Saggese waiting and with Arenado and/or Gorman at third and Winn at SS it seems like we either trade to make space for him or find another spot for him. We know he can play 2b, SS and third. I'd appreciate Craviduce and others weighing in on Weatherholt as a center fielder. Just a thought.
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Yes, he is struggling. My guess is he will get an adjustment and become that CF threat I was referring to....Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:49 pmDavis is plummeting. Batting .219 with a .687 OPS. He plays a great CF but the bat has been a problem it seems.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
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started out pretty good. maybe they got a book on him or somethinghugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:09 pmYes, he is struggling. My guess is he will get an adjustment and become that CF threat I was referring to....Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:49 pmDavis is plummeting. Batting .219 with a .687 OPS. He plays a great CF but the bat has been a problem it seems.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
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I don't see Davis ever pushing VSII, he's struggling badly (.219 .350 .337 .687) in AA.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
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Sure doesn’t look good right now.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:29 amI don't see Davis ever pushing VSII, he's struggling badly (.219 .350 .337 .687) in AA.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
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So was VSII, last year. Memphis 2024: .210 .294 .303 .597rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:29 amI don't see Davis ever pushing VSII, he's struggling badly (.219 .350 .337 .687) in AA.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
Some more patience
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I'm not as high on Davis as you, don't see him being the solution in CF.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 09:36 amSo was VSII, last year. Memphis 2024: .210 .294 .303 .597rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:29 amI don't see Davis ever pushing VSII, he's struggling badly (.219 .350 .337 .687) in AA.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
Some more patience
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Check in with duce. Davis is a phenomenal fielder and has power. He seems streaky, but has real tools.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 10:22 amI'm not as high on Davis as you, don't see him being the solution in CF.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 09:36 amSo was VSII, last year. Memphis 2024: .210 .294 .303 .597rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:29 amI don't see Davis ever pushing VSII, he's struggling badly (.219 .350 .337 .687) in AA.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
Some more patience
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hugeCardfan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 12:41 pmCheck in with duce. Davis is a phenomenal fielder and has power. He seems streaky, but has real tools.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 10:22 amI'm not as high on Davis as you, don't see him being the solution in CF.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 09:36 amSo was VSII, last year. Memphis 2024: .210 .294 .303 .597rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:29 amI don't see Davis ever pushing VSII, he's struggling badly (.219 .350 .337 .687) in AA.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
Some more patience
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Both Davis and Weatherholt are recent #1 draft picks. That’s wonderful to have two potential impact player a year or two away. Weatherholt is tearing up AA and Davis is struggling. I’m hoping they both live up to their potential. All I’m saying is we are pretty set on the infield and it wouldn’t hurt to have JJ play some CF in case Davis and Scott continue to struggle offensivelyrockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 12:51 pmhugeCardfan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 12:41 pmCheck in with duce. Davis is a phenomenal fielder and has power. He seems streaky, but has real tools.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 10:22 amI'm not as high on Davis as you, don't see him being the solution in CF.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 09:36 amSo was VSII, last year. Memphis 2024: .210 .294 .303 .597rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:29 amI don't see Davis ever pushing VSII, he's struggling badly (.219 .350 .337 .687) in AA.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:04 pmI think Scott will come around offensively, but, if he doesn't, the GG isn't enough. My guess is that Chase Davis will be his best competition for CF.rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 10:46 am I still think JJ is ticketed for 2nd base (Donny LF).
And can we please allow VSII his struggles at the plate like the vast majority of rookies do before they get settled in?
The kid is playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF (+6 DRS/+7 OAA) so he's been an asset even as he struggles to learn ML pitchers.
Seems like a really smart kid, he'll make the adjustments.
Little patience
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
Some more patience
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