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Shady wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 14:24 pm I know some postes really like stats. Check the minor league stats for Walker, Gorman and Saggese. See which of the three was superior.

Why don't you just share them?

In addition to your other numerous faults, you're lazy as well?

No wonder Mary dumped you...

How long do the Cardinals stay with seeing/wondering if Gorman can produce before giving Saggese that kind of opportunity?

Shady wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025 20:41 pm How long do the Cardinals stay with seeing/wondering if Gorman can produce before giving Saggese that kind of opportunity?

From what I've seen, recently. Saggese may have as good of range at 2B as Donovan.

Ok I’ll bite.
And I’ve lost track of how many “Saggese” threads I’ve commented in.
They seem to pop up quite often.
1) I like Saggese as a prospect. I hope they are also getting him looks in the OF as I could see him possibly becoming a RH version of Brendan Donovan.
2) Infield situation as of today. Contreras, Winn, and Arenado are locks at their respective positions. Then you have Donovan(who will play every day somewhere) and Gorman.
3) Gorman has a higher ceiling compared to Saggese and he is having trouble finding PT.


So....where does Saggese fit with the big club AT THE MOMENT?
Answer? Getting daily PT and AB’s at AAA.
Now:
If Arenado is dealt?
Or
Gorman craters and is dealt?
Or
Donovan becomes a regular in the OF?
Then???
Saggese could get a serious look. And BTW.... any/all three of those above scenarios could present themselves over the next year?
In the meantime....how about pumping the brakes a bit?????
I’m actually higher on Wetherholt as a prospect but you don’t see me advocating we bring him up either.
I hope(and I’m SURE others do as well!) that we table the repetitive Saggese threads for a few months.

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025 19:09 pm

Shady wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025 19:00 pm

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025 18:59 pm

Shady wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025 18:35 pm Wouldn't it have been interesting to see how would he would have done if not sent down. His BA was at.341 and his OBP was .364 when sent down. To elaborate, Saggese is blocked by Arenado and Gorman. I don't remember Saggese popping up as much as Arenado does. Nor striking out as much as Gorman does. Saggese is simply blocked.

For the umpteenth time, it was a whopping 44 MLB PAs, with a .433 BABIP in that tiny sample. “To elaborate,”

Saggese at AAA
2024: 528 PAs, 91 wRC+
2025: 139 PAs, 102 wRC+

How are Arenado and Gorman performing, offensively?

Are they facing AAA pitching? Do you think they’d be above average (as opposed to average-to-slightly-below-average) against AAA pitching?

You always think the next bright shiny object in the minors is better than whoever happens to be struggling at the moment on the MLB roster. You have the attention span of a gnat.

This

Shady wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025 20:57 pm

Shady wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025 20:41 pm How long do the Cardinals stay with seeing/wondering if Gorman can produce before giving Saggese that kind of opportunity?

From what I've seen, recently. Saggese may have as good of range at 2B as Donovan.

May have range as good as Donovan has.

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025 18:59 pm

Shady wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025 18:35 pm Wouldn't it have been interesting to see how would he would have done if not sent down. His BA was at.341 and his OBP was .364 when sent down. To elaborate, Saggese is blocked by Arenado and Gorman. I don't remember Saggese popping up as much as Arenado does. Nor striking out as much as Gorman does. Saggese is simply blocked.

For the umpteenth time, it was a whopping 44 MLB PAs, with a .433 BABIP in that tiny sample. “To elaborate,”

Saggese at AAA
2024: 528 PAs, 91 wRC+
2025: 139 PAs, 102 wRC+

I typically use the word “blocked” for a prospect who is dominating AAA and has nothing else to prove there. I don’t consider Saggese in that group.