Couple of notes regarding Herrera....

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Re: Couple of notes regarding Herrera....

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Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 16:35 pm How has the approx 18M guy compared to the approx 800k guy in the last three weeks?
Three weeks! That's your barometer? Dumb.
Career:
Contreras - OPS - 810; .458 slugging % / speed / 14.6 RBI/AB
Bison - OPS - .715; .404 slugging % / no speed / 11.6 RBI/AB
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Re: Couple of notes regarding Herrera....

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ClassicO wrote: 26 May 2025 16:50 pm
Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 16:35 pm How has the approx 18M guy compared to the approx 800k guy in the last three weeks?
Three weeks! That's your barometer? Dumb.
Career:
Contreras - OPS - 810; .458 slugging % / speed / 14.6 RBI/AB
Bison - OPS - .715; .404 slugging % / no speed / 11.6 RBI/AB
OK. Maybe, I'm watching at the wrong time. But I haven't seen much out of Contreras lately. At least not the slugging expected out of a cleanup hitter. Sorry, I'm not buying the "speed" thing.
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Re: Couple of notes regarding Herrera....

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Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 16:35 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 26 May 2025 14:33 pm
Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 14:31 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 26 May 2025 14:23 pm
Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 14:07 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 26 May 2025 14:06 pm
Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 14:05 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 26 May 2025 14:02 pm
Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 13:44 pm
ClassicO wrote: 26 May 2025 11:47 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 26 May 2025 11:39 am
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 May 2025 08:31 am One third of our lineup will run like a C. lol
Herrera actually runs pretty good and Contreras runs everything out
Sprint speed isn't everything, but here's the Cards' top to bottom.

Of the 13 players now on the Cards and in the everyday lineup, Contreras is 4th and Herrera 6th in sprint speed.

Yes, Burly is last, behind Pozo.

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ClassicO wrote: 26 May 2025 11:47 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 26 May 2025 11:39 am
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 May 2025 08:31 am One third of our lineup will run like a C. lol
Herrera actually runs pretty good and Contreras runs everything out
Sprint speed isn't everything, but here's the Cards' top to bottom.

Of the 13 players now on the Cards and in the everyday lineup, Contreras is 4th and Herrera 6th in sprint speed.

Yes, Burly is last, behind Pozo.

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Saggese faster than Siani. Wow ! If he can hit good enough. That's a huge plus for Saggese's future with the Cardinals. Sure wish Burleson could run like Saggese.
Well Shady, you recently posted that you weren't convinced Contreras was faster than Burly. Are you still not convinced or will you concede that you were wrong?
The evidence supports Contreras being faster than Burleson. Be proud !
The evidence has always supported this...but...you tend to ignore evidence.
I like Contreras. I just wish he didn't strike out so often. And I'd like more clutch RBIs from him.
Even after his slow start, he still leads the team in RBI!
And he doesn't strike out that often. More facts...during his career he has struck out 24.1%. The MLB AVERAGE is 22.4%.
Wish Contreras could have delivered a clutch 2 out hit to get the Cardinals a lead in the first.
Me too. I guess he will never hit 1000? I guess a 200 RBI season is out of the question?
You're the stats guy. How has the approx 18M guy compared to the approx 800k guy in the last three weeks?
If I played for $100K would that make ME the best player?

We've been down this road before Marshall. I don't care what these guys make. Contreras has earned his money and his contract. Maybe some day your beloved part-time player will earn big bucks as well.
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Re: Couple of notes regarding Herrera....

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Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 16:54 pm
ClassicO wrote: 26 May 2025 16:50 pm
Shady wrote: 26 May 2025 16:35 pm How has the approx 18M guy compared to the approx 800k guy in the last three weeks?
Three weeks! That's your barometer? Dumb.
Career:
Contreras - OPS - 810; .458 slugging % / speed / 14.6 RBI/AB
Bison - OPS - .715; .404 slugging % / no speed / 11.6 RBI/AB
OK. Maybe, I'm watching at the wrong time. But I haven't seen much out of Contreras lately. At least not the slugging expected out of a cleanup hitter. Sorry, I'm not buying the "speed" thing.
What aren't you buying? Contreras has always been known as a very fast runner for a catcher. As numerous posters have proven to you...Contreras is much faster than Burly even though he's 6 or 7 years older.

You don't have to be sorry, but only a fool ignores facts when confronted with them. Oh well...if the shoe fits...
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