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Re: Jack Roslovic

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skilles wrote: 26 May 2025 20:43 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 26 May 2025 14:14 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 May 2025 11:30 am Given that Roslovic is needed because Dvorsky has not arrived, how similar are their styles and skills? Anybody able to compare and contrast?

Let's say Dvorsky does mature into the NHL next year, what happens to Roslovic and the lines potentially at that point?

I'm mostly for inserting Dvorsky into the lineup, sink or swim. We don't want to witness another Perunovich blossom where we waste 8 years thinking he's going to eventually work.
Dvorsky and Roslovic have pretty different strengths and weaknesses. Roslovic has some skill but can be inconsistent, soft and defensively just ok. He’s the sort that if he’s not providing secondary scoring then he’s not providing much. IMO, he’s not the best option out there. He’d be a bargain bin Plan G sort of option IMO.

That said, I don’t think we should just insert Dvorsky into the lineup either. He can force his way onto the team if/when he’s truly ready. The answer for what to do with him if/when he shows he’s ready is pretty much the same answer whether Roslovic or any other C is brought in. Either that incoming C, Dvorsky or Schenn can shift to the wing. I see Dvorsky’s future at C but it wouldn’t hurt him to work his way into the league on LW as there’s less defensive responsibility on the wing. Just like how Thomas played his first season in the NHL at RW and then transitioned back to C as our 3C…then 2C and now as our 1C.

But Schenn can also play either wing. And whatever C is brought in, it’d be a bonus if that player shot right and his secondary position was RW as that’s what we’re short of.
We have a lot of wingers though, I just don't see where there is room to shift centers to wing on this team currently.

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Unless someone gets injured....
Yeah, it likely takes an injury or two for Dvorsky to get a shot.
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Re: Jack Roslovic

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STL fan in MN wrote: 26 May 2025 20:34 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 May 2025 17:16 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 26 May 2025 14:14 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 May 2025 11:30 am Given that Roslovic is needed because Dvorsky has not arrived, how similar are their styles and skills? Anybody able to compare and contrast?

Let's say Dvorsky does mature into the NHL next year, what happens to Roslovic and the lines potentially at that point?

I'm mostly for inserting Dvorsky into the lineup, sink or swim. We don't want to witness another Perunovich blossom where we waste 8 years thinking he's going to eventually work.
Dvorsky and Roslovic have pretty different strengths and weaknesses. Roslovic has some skill but can be inconsistent, soft and defensively just ok. He’s the sort that if he’s not providing secondary scoring then he’s not providing much. IMO, he’s not the best option out there. He’d be a bargain bin Plan G sort of option IMO.

That said, I don’t think we should just insert Dvorsky into the lineup either. He can force his way onto the team if/when he’s truly ready. The answer for what to do with him if/when he shows he’s ready is pretty much the same answer whether Roslovic or any other C is brought in. Either that incoming C, Dvorsky or Schenn can shift to the wing. I see Dvorsky’s future at C but it wouldn’t hurt him to work his way into the league on LW as there’s less defensive responsibility on the wing. Just like how Thomas played his first season in the NHL at RW and then transitioned back to C as our 3C…then 2C and now as our 1C.

But Schenn can also play either wing. And whatever C is brought in, it’d be a bonus if that player shot right and his secondary position was RW as that’s what we’re short of.
I see. Thanks for the analysis.

Why do you think that it is taking so long? He has smarts good size, and his attitude about playing 2-way is great, so what is the hold up? It's not like he has to play better than Draisitl to earn a roster spot.
Why is what taking so long? Dvorsky’s development? He’s 19. Only 6 players from his draft class have played more than a handful of games. It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Very very few 19 year olds are playing in the NHL, let alone making an impact. He’s developing just fine.

I’d expect for the 2023 draft class, including Dvorsky, to start breaking into the league more this upcoming season. Emphasis on the word start though. This is just the beginning of their careers. He still has a ton of growth ahead of him.

But as for what specifically he needs to continue to work on to become an NHL regular, I’d say making an impact 5 on 5. He’s lights out on the PP in the AHL but doesn’t stand out as much 5 on 5. He has to work on his ability to separate and make space for himself. The normal progression from a teenager’s body to a man’s body should absolutely help with that. He also needs to work on his two-way game some more as well. But everything he needs to improve on is totally normal for a 19 year old. I have really no concerns with his development to date.
Double thanks for reply.
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Re: Jack Roslovic

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STL fan in MN wrote: 26 May 2025 20:56 pm
skilles wrote: 26 May 2025 20:43 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 26 May 2025 14:14 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 May 2025 11:30 am Given that Roslovic is needed because Dvorsky has not arrived, how similar are their styles and skills? Anybody able to compare and contrast?

Let's say Dvorsky does mature into the NHL next year, what happens to Roslovic and the lines potentially at that point?

I'm mostly for inserting Dvorsky into the lineup, sink or swim. We don't want to witness another Perunovich blossom where we waste 8 years thinking he's going to eventually work.
Dvorsky and Roslovic have pretty different strengths and weaknesses. Roslovic has some skill but can be inconsistent, soft and defensively just ok. He’s the sort that if he’s not providing secondary scoring then he’s not providing much. IMO, he’s not the best option out there. He’d be a bargain bin Plan G sort of option IMO.

That said, I don’t think we should just insert Dvorsky into the lineup either. He can force his way onto the team if/when he’s truly ready. The answer for what to do with him if/when he shows he’s ready is pretty much the same answer whether Roslovic or any other C is brought in. Either that incoming C, Dvorsky or Schenn can shift to the wing. I see Dvorsky’s future at C but it wouldn’t hurt him to work his way into the league on LW as there’s less defensive responsibility on the wing. Just like how Thomas played his first season in the NHL at RW and then transitioned back to C as our 3C…then 2C and now as our 1C.

But Schenn can also play either wing. And whatever C is brought in, it’d be a bonus if that player shot right and his secondary position was RW as that’s what we’re short of.
We have a lot of wingers though, I just don't see where there is room to shift centers to wing on this team currently.

Buch
Kyrou
Bolduc
Snugs
Neighbours
Holloway

Unless someone gets injured....
Yeah, it likely takes an injury or two for Dvorsky to get a shot.
Or Schenn to play wing.
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