You think Hofer will get an offer sheet ?

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Re: You think Hofer will get an offer sheet ?

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I like Hofer, but I would like to see the Blues use him as a trade chip to Buffalo for Bo Byram. I know it wouldn't be straight up one for one. We'd have to offer more. Buffalo could use a young goaltender that fits in the age of their core and we have Ellis that is ready to make the jump.
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Re: You think Hofer will get an offer sheet ?

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hockey jedi wrote: 07 May 2025 10:34 am I like Hofer, but I would like to see the Blues use him as a trade chip to Buffalo for Bo Byram. I know it wouldn't be straight up one for one. We'd have to offer more. Buffalo could use a young goaltender that fits in the age of their core and we have Ellis that is ready to make the jump.
Well sure but I don't think Hofer even gets you close on that.
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skilles wrote: 07 May 2025 10:53 am
hockey jedi wrote: 07 May 2025 10:34 am I like Hofer, but I would like to see the Blues use him as a trade chip to Buffalo for Bo Byram. I know it wouldn't be straight up one for one. We'd have to offer more. Buffalo could use a young goaltender that fits in the age of their core and we have Ellis that is ready to make the jump.
Well sure but I don't think Hofer even gets you close on that.
Hofer, Leddy, Kryou for Tuch and Byram

Cam/ CP55
Byram/ Broberg
Tucker/ Faulk

Holloway,Thomas Snuggerud
Neighbors, Tuch, Buch
Schenn, Dvo, Bolduc
WTF
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Re: You think Hofer will get an offer sheet ?

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Zizzle1297 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:36 am
skilles wrote: 07 May 2025 10:53 am
hockey jedi wrote: 07 May 2025 10:34 am I like Hofer, but I would like to see the Blues use him as a trade chip to Buffalo for Bo Byram. I know it wouldn't be straight up one for one. We'd have to offer more. Buffalo could use a young goaltender that fits in the age of their core and we have Ellis that is ready to make the jump.
Well sure but I don't think Hofer even gets you close on that.
Hofer, Leddy, Kryou for Tuch and Byram

Cam/ CP55
Byram/ Broberg
Tucker/ Faulk

Holloway,Thomas Snuggerud
Neighbors, Tuch, Buch
Schenn, Dvo, Bolduc
WTF
Put down the crack pipe and slowly back away
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hockey jedi wrote: 07 May 2025 10:34 am I like Hofer, but I would like to see the Blues use him as a trade chip to Buffalo for Bo Byram. I know it wouldn't be straight up one for one. We'd have to offer more. Buffalo could use a young goaltender that fits in the age of their core and we have Ellis that is ready to make the jump.
We just really don't need another lefty.

We need a righty whether we trade Faulk or not. We are severely depleted on the right side.
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Here’s my thoughts… I think Hofer is a No. 1 and I believe he wants to be a starter somewhere and will ask for a trade…. So what do you all think his value is?? Do y’all think he is worth a 1st rounder? 2nd rounder?? Top level prospect? The numbers he put up were pretty impressive. Thoughts? Which team needs a goalie?
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TampaBlues78 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:34 pm Here’s my thoughts… I think Hofer is a No. 1 and I believe he wants to be a starter somewhere and will ask for a trade…. So what do you all think his value is?? Do y’all think he is worth a 1st rounder? 2nd rounder?? Top level prospect? The numbers he put up were pretty impressive. Thoughts? Which team needs a goalie?
If you look at offer sheet values, you pay a #2 for a 4.5m player.

Somebody might bite on that chance, I don't know.
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IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 07 May 2025 10:07 am Isn't he eligible for arbitration? Can Armey just qualify him and if they cant get a deal let the arbitrator decide? He would get a raise but not over 4 aav.
Hofer or Army would have to file for arbitration. Many players don’t. For example, both Broberg and Holloway didn’t a year ago even though they were eligible to do so.

But yes, if either side files, then you’re correct that he’d then be ineligible for an offer sheet. But it’s pretty rare for the team to file as then the player would get to pick the term (1 or 2 years) and teams don’t like having that dictated to them.
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Jonas Johansson - the Lightning backup - just signed a two year 2.5 aav contract. Played much less games than Hofer with a sub 9.00 sp. Hard to argue that Hofer is looking at least a 3.5 aav payday in terms of market value. In the event Armey doesn't get him signed and there is an offer sheet is the extra 1 million in savings really worth it? IMo hard to see Armey not matching up to 4.5 aav.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 07 May 2025 13:12 pm
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 07 May 2025 10:07 am Isn't he eligible for arbitration? Can Armey just qualify him and if they cant get a deal let the arbitrator decide? He would get a raise but not over 4 aav.
Hofer or Army would have to file for arbitration. Many players don’t. For example, both Broberg and Holloway didn’t a year ago even though they were eligible to do so.

But yes, if either side files, then you’re correct that he’d then be ineligible for an offer sheet. But it’s pretty rare for the team to file as then the player would get to pick the term (1 or 2 years) and teams don’t like having that dictated to them.
Usually I'd agree but for a backup goalie you think could be a #1, Blues probably don't mind him picking term. He takes one year and we get a better bead on Ellis ability to be next man up and can move on from Hofer potentially. He takes two and Hofer has a chance to show if he can or can't take over for Binner.
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TampaBlues78 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:34 pm Here’s my thoughts… I think Hofer is a No. 1 and I believe he wants to be a starter somewhere and will ask for a trade…. So what do you all think his value is?? Do y’all think he is worth a 1st rounder? 2nd rounder?? Top level prospect? The numbers he put up were pretty impressive. Thoughts? Which team needs a goalie?
He can think that all he wants, his numbers (at this point) say otherwise.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 07 May 2025 13:12 pm
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 07 May 2025 10:07 am Isn't he eligible for arbitration? Can Armey just qualify him and if they cant get a deal let the arbitrator decide? He would get a raise but not over 4 aav.
Hofer or Army would have to file for arbitration. Many players don’t. For example, both Broberg and Holloway didn’t a year ago even though they were eligible to do so.

But yes, if either side files, then you’re correct that he’d then be ineligible for an offer sheet. But it’s pretty rare for the team to file as then the player would get to pick the term (1 or 2 years) and teams don’t like having that dictated to them.
As well as if the team files that greatly increases the possibility of some very hard feelings getting involved and would greatly reduce the chance of an extension beyond the arbitration ruling happening.

Didn't Parayko file for arbitration at one point?
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Re: You think Hofer will get an offer sheet ?

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TheJackBurton wrote: 07 May 2025 14:53 pm
TampaBlues78 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:34 pm Here’s my thoughts… I think Hofer is a No. 1 and I believe he wants to be a starter somewhere and will ask for a trade…. So what do you all think his value is?? Do y’all think he is worth a 1st rounder? 2nd rounder?? Top level prospect? The numbers he put up were pretty impressive. Thoughts? Which team needs a goalie?
He can think that all he wants, his numbers (at this point) say otherwise.
I mean his numbers are better than Binnys numbers for the second straight season.
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skilles wrote: 07 May 2025 15:17 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 May 2025 14:53 pm
TampaBlues78 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:34 pm Here’s my thoughts… I think Hofer is a No. 1 and I believe he wants to be a starter somewhere and will ask for a trade…. So what do you all think his value is?? Do y’all think he is worth a 1st rounder? 2nd rounder?? Top level prospect? The numbers he put up were pretty impressive. Thoughts? Which team needs a goalie?
He can think that all he wants, his numbers (at this point) say otherwise.
I mean his numbers are better than Binnys numbers for the second straight season.

Hofer
2023-2024- 30 games 2.65 .914
2024-2025- 31 games 2.65 .904

Binnington
2023-2024- 57 games 2.84 .913
2024-2025- 56 games 2.69 .900

My mistake his numbers were better than I thought, but there is always a caveat. He generally plays against lesser teams and the first game of back to backs. Not every single time, but the majority, and you can't extrapolate those numbers out for another 20 games because who knows how fatigue would affect him.

If you look at his body of work this year, most games were good, but he had numerous ones allowing the first goal on the first shot, and that is a red flag if you are signing him to be your #1.
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Re: You think Hofer will get an offer sheet ?

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TheJackBurton wrote: 07 May 2025 15:37 pm
skilles wrote: 07 May 2025 15:17 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 May 2025 14:53 pm
TampaBlues78 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:34 pm Here’s my thoughts… I think Hofer is a No. 1 and I believe he wants to be a starter somewhere and will ask for a trade…. So what do you all think his value is?? Do y’all think he is worth a 1st rounder? 2nd rounder?? Top level prospect? The numbers he put up were pretty impressive. Thoughts? Which team needs a goalie?
He can think that all he wants, his numbers (at this point) say otherwise.
I mean his numbers are better than Binnys numbers for the second straight season.

Hofer
2023-2024- 30 games 2.65 .914
2024-2025- 31 games 2.65 .904

Binnington
2023-2024- 57 games 2.84 .913
2024-2025- 56 games 2.69 .900

My mistake his numbers were better than I thought, but there is always a caveat. He generally plays against lesser teams and the first game of back to backs. Not every single time, but the majority, and you can't extrapolate those numbers out for another 20 games because who knows how fatigue would affect him.

If you look at his body of work this year, most games were good, but he had numerous ones allowing the first goal on the first shot, and that is a red flag if you are signing him to be your #1.
Well he can only do what he has the opportunity to do but I'd say in his mind putting up better numbers than Binny means something.
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