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Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 07:36 am
by Cranny
AnExParrot wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 21:31 pm
OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:27 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
He and Reinsdorf are cut from the same cloth. Too loyal to guys running their franchise into mediocrity while taking their fan support for granted.
Wrong. A good business person never takes his customers/clients for granted.
Protect him all you want, I believe he has in this case.
That's just cranny's way of saying BDW isn't a good business man.
Maybe Googling BDW and learning about other investments he and his partner have made would help give you a better vista.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 07:39 am
by 1_12_1968
Decker57 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 22:33 pm
I think DeWitt started turning more control over to his son about 3 years ago and he has slowly stepped back.
It appears that his son doesn't have a real strong desire to get into a world series but really wants to make himself and family alot more money.
Reminds me a little bit of when Gussie Busch son took over the cardinals and then we saw boring non competitive baseball here in St. Louis.
If money was their motive they would sell the team and invest the money
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 08:12 am
by ScotchMIrish
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
Trade prospects for overpaid "stars"?
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 08:25 am
by AnExParrot
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 07:36 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 21:31 pm
OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:27 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
He and Reinsdorf are cut from the same cloth. Too loyal to guys running their franchise into mediocrity while taking their fan support for granted.
Wrong. A good business person never takes his customers/clients for granted.
Protect him all you want, I believe he has in this case.
That's just cranny's way of saying BDW isn't a good business man.
Maybe Googling BDW and learning about other investments he and his partner have made would help give you a better vista.
Did you not see the wink? It was a joke you dolt.
But since you're taking it seriously... why, did he take the customers of those investments for granted as well?

Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 08:31 am
by Cranny
AnExParrot wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:25 am
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 07:36 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 21:31 pm
OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:27 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
He and Reinsdorf are cut from the same cloth. Too loyal to guys running their franchise into mediocrity while taking their fan support for granted.
Wrong. A good business person never takes his customers/clients for granted.
Protect him all you want, I believe he has in this case.
That's just cranny's way of saying BDW isn't a good business man.
Maybe Googling BDW and learning about other investments he and his partner have made would help give you a better vista.
Did you not see the wink? It was a joke you dolt.
But since you're taking it seriously... why, did he take the customers of those investments for granted as well?
Dolt? How very special you are.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 08:39 am
by AnExParrot
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:31 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:25 am
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 07:36 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 21:31 pm
OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:27 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
He and Reinsdorf are cut from the same cloth. Too loyal to guys running their franchise into mediocrity while taking their fan support for granted.
Wrong. A good business person never takes his customers/clients for granted.
Protect him all you want, I believe he has in this case.
That's just cranny's way of saying BDW isn't a good business man.
Maybe Googling BDW and learning about other investments he and his partner have made would help give you a better vista.
Did you not see the wink? It was a joke you dolt.
But since you're taking it seriously... why, did he take the customers of those investments for granted as well?
Dolt? How very special you are.
If you aren't a dolt, then how did you miss or, worse, not understand the "wink," cranny?
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 08:43 am
by Cranny
AnExParrot wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:39 am
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:31 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:25 am
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 07:36 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 21:31 pm
OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:27 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
He and Reinsdorf are cut from the same cloth. Too loyal to guys running their franchise into mediocrity while taking their fan support for granted.
Wrong. A good business person never takes his customers/clients for granted.
Protect him all you want, I believe he has in this case.
That's just cranny's way of saying BDW isn't a good business man.
Maybe Googling BDW and learning about other investments he and his partner have made would help give you a better vista.
Did you not see the wink? It was a joke you dolt.
But since you're taking it seriously... why, did he take the customers of those investments for granted as well?
Dolt? How very special you are.
If you aren't a dolt, then how did you miss or, worse, not understand the "wink," cranny?
Oh you’re right, parrot. Early in the morning I must have missed your “wink”. I must be a real “dolt”. My bad. I’ll try to be better in the future.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 08:56 am
by AnExParrot
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:43 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:39 am
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:31 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:25 am
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 07:36 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 21:31 pm
OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:27 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
He and Reinsdorf are cut from the same cloth. Too loyal to guys running their franchise into mediocrity while taking their fan support for granted.
Wrong. A good business person never takes his customers/clients for granted.
Protect him all you want, I believe he has in this case.
That's just cranny's way of saying BDW isn't a good business man.
Maybe Googling BDW and learning about other investments he and his partner have made would help give you a better vista.
Did you not see the wink? It was a joke you dolt.
But since you're taking it seriously... why, did he take the customers of those investments for granted as well?
Dolt? How very special you are.
If you aren't a dolt, then how did you miss or, worse, not understand the "wink," cranny?
Oh you’re right, parrot. Early in the morning I must have missed your “wink”. I must be a real “dolt”. My bad. I’ll try to be better in the future.
<YAWN>
Always the victim...
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 09:22 am
by Rojo Johnson
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
OK, Cranny. I’m sick of your caterwauling about how wonderful Moe and Bill were 12 years ago. You’re wrong about the current state of the Cards and you know it. 20,000 fans on a weekend night against a division rival when the team is playing well at home tells everyone but you something. But you keep denying what’s going on. Open your eyes and try and see what fans are telling management, you silly fool. It could be that your double date buddy is as foolish as you are in your old age. Now, that’s a scary thought. No one gives a Cranny’s asz about what they did the last decade.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 09:43 am
by WLTFE
It's amazing that any thread that criticizes DeTwit and Mo-ran quickly gets hijacked by the usual suspects...and apparently they have the time to post and argue with everyone.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 15:00 pm
by Cranny
Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 09:22 am
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
OK, Cranny. I’m sick of your caterwauling about how wonderful Moe and Bill were 12 years ago. You’re wrong about the current state of the Cards and you know it. 20,000 fans on a weekend night against a division rival when the team is playing well at home tells everyone but you something. But you keep denying what’s going on. Open your eyes and try and see what fans are telling management, you silly fool. It could be that your double date buddy is as foolish as you are in your old age. Now, that’s a scary thought. No one gives a Cranny’s asz about what they did the last decade.
Oh, Rojo! I’m soooo sorry. I sure had no intention of making you sick. My total and complete bad.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 15:41 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
WLTFE wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 09:43 am
It's amazing that any thread that criticizes DeTwit and Mo-ran quickly gets hijacked by the usual suspects...and apparently they have the time to post and argue with everyone.
Bunch of Johnny Dickshots!
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 15:45 pm
by Cranny
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:41 pm
WLTFE wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 09:43 am
It's amazing that any thread that criticizes DeTwit and Mo-ran quickly gets hijacked by the usual suspects...and apparently they have the time to post and argue with everyone.
Bunch of Johnny Dickshots!
Absolutely, MMB. Nice judgemental analysis.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 15:47 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:45 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:41 pm
WLTFE wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 09:43 am
It's amazing that any thread that criticizes DeTwit and Mo-ran quickly gets hijacked by the usual suspects...and apparently they have the time to post and argue with everyone.
Bunch of Johnny Dickshots!
Absolutely, MMB. Nice judgemental analysis.
Yes, and you are the head Johnny.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 15:57 pm
by Poojols
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:07 am
Poojols wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:00 am
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
Yes, we've been hearing the "no losing season" argument for a decade. Cleary it's not working. Who would have guessed that being cheap and incompetent could put the fanbase off?
You just named all three of the club's big bat moves over the past decade. Those moves were designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Fortunately more and more people are waking up, hence the empty seats in 2025.
Got it. Major trades are’t to improve the team, be more competitive, or fill MOTO holes. They’re simple to “trick” the fans.
That may be one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I’ve heard on here.
You made up the part about "trades aren't to improve the team". I didn't say that, liar. So I agree, it is one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I've heard on here.
I said they are designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Small improvements on teams with several glaring holes. They fooled you.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 27 Apr 2025 16:46 pm
by Cranny
Poojols wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:57 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:07 am
Poojols wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:00 am
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
Yes, we've been hearing the "no losing season" argument for a decade. Cleary it's not working. Who would have guessed that being cheap and incompetent could put the fanbase off?
You just named all three of the club's big bat moves over the past decade. Those moves were designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Fortunately more and more people are waking up, hence the empty seats in 2025.
Got it. Major trades are’t to improve the team, be more competitive, or fill MOTO holes. They’re simple to “trick” the fans.
That may be one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I’ve heard on here.
You made up the part about "trades aren't to improve the team". I didn't say that, liar. So I agree, it is one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I've heard on here.
I said they are designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Small improvements on teams with several glaring holes. They fooled you.
I guess they tricked me then with the Ozuna, Goldy, and Arenado trades?