Is Schenn The Best Blues Captain of All Time?

[Bubble4427]

no hes not.

petro was. hate him or love him.

That's hilarious.
Whatever club you're performing at this weekend, will there be a 2 drink minimum?

[Aesa]

no hes not.

petro was. hate him or love him.

That's hilarious.
Whatever club you're performing at this weekend, will there be a 2 drink minimum?

He may also want to try the veal.

[callitwhatyouwant]

no hes not.

petro was. hate him or love him.

Petro was certainly a good captain, but he was a captain by skill, not necessarily leadership. I'm not going to sit and say everything Rivers says is gospel, but he said that 2019 team was leadership by committee. A big reason that team won was because of all the guys bought in and a lot of it had to do with acquisitions. When you hear stuff like that, you have to start thinking about who those acquisitions were. Schenn and ROR. Sounds to me the locker room was devoid of that "leadership" after backes and if it wasn't for Schenn and ROR, that team doesn't do what it did. Petro had the C for longevity and skill, and he certainly was a major voice in the locker room.

Again, not trying to throw anyone under the bus when bringing this topic up. Just trying to debate who is the best. I don't think Petro gets into top 3 debate on this one, especially for one thing. His heart wasn't in STL. He left to take the bag. I'm not saying that isn't a good move. I'm just saying that doesn't scream captain or all time captain material. Schenner literally refused to leave. He had the option to go to a guaranteed playoff contender and said no. (allegedly)

[Cardsfanforlife]

no hes not.

petro was. hate him or love him.

Petro was certainly a good captain, but he was a captain by skill, not necessarily leadership. I'm not going to sit and say everything Rivers says is gospel, but he said that 2019 team was leadership by committee. A big reason that team won was because of all the guys bought in and a lot of it had to do with acquisitions. When you hear stuff like that, you have to start thinking about who those acquisitions were. Schenn and ROR. Sounds to me the locker room was devoid of that "leadership" after backes and if it wasn't for Schenn and ROR, that team doesn't do what it did. Petro had the C for longevity and skill, and he certainly was a major voice in the locker room.

Again, not trying to throw anyone under the bus when bringing this topic up. Just trying to debate who is the best. I don't think Petro gets into top 3 debate on this one, especially for one thing. His heart wasn't in STL. He left to take the bag. I'm not saying that isn't a good move. I'm just saying that doesn't scream captain or all time captain material. Schenner literally refused to leave. He had the option to go to a guaranteed playoff contender and said no. (allegedly)

agree with much of that. certainly it was skill. also though i dont think anyone who wasnt in the locker room, really knows 100%. just my opinion.

[Harry S Deals]

no hes not.

petro was. hate him or love him.

Petro was certainly a good captain, but he was a captain by skill, not necessarily leadership. I'm not going to sit and say everything Rivers says is gospel, but he said that 2019 team was leadership by committee. A big reason that team won was because of all the guys bought in and a lot of it had to do with acquisitions. When you hear stuff like that, you have to start thinking about who those acquisitions were. Schenn and ROR. Sounds to me the locker room was devoid of that "leadership" after backes and if it wasn't for Schenn and ROR, that team doesn't do what it did. Petro had the C for longevity and skill, and he certainly was a major voice in the locker room.

Again, not trying to throw anyone under the bus when bringing this topic up. Just trying to debate who is the best. I don't think Petro gets into top 3 debate on this one, especially for one thing. His heart wasn't in STL. He left to take the bag. I'm not saying that isn't a good move. I'm just saying that doesn't scream captain or all time captain material. Schenner literally refused to leave. He had the option to go to a guaranteed playoff contender and said no. (allegedly)

Was there a more bland captain than Pietrangelo? Great dman, tons of skill certainly part of the 2019 leadership group but he never exuded "captain" to me.

[dhsux]

To clarify, most posters interpreted this the right way. But the question is about being a Blue. Is he the best captain of all time that personifies that. Yes, prisoner of the moment. But schenn is faced with some crazy elements and the culture of today is to get Mine, and he does everything to help everyone else. That part is awesome. Currently on 101, rivers is quoted as saying “if you liked sutter, you need to be paying attention to schenn.” A lot of you posters who have that experience are saying the same.

Regardless, what has happened this year has to be an all timer. And he was the catalyst for the cup. If you would have told yourself in 2025, that schenn would have the same amount of points as barbashev, you would have taken it right?

Not a huge fan of Jaime on the air but his quote you posted infers the right idea here......I think Schenn can catch up to Sutter in the chase of best captain catagory in due time if he can finish out strong a few more years.

But I'm like a few others here....I just can't claim one guy for "best".

[Plagers4Ever]

Been a Blues fan since the very beginning. I totally agree that you should not look at who the best player was and equate that with who the best Blues Captain was…just because one was the best Blues player and wore the “C” does not make him the best Blues Captain. IMO…in no particular order…these are the men who bled blue the most when wearing the “C” and who exemplified that the Blue Note on the front of their Jersey meant more than their name on the back and/or the money they made, would make or even sought to make;

1) Brian Sutter
2) Barclay Plager
3) Brendan Schenn
4) Al Arbour
5) Scott Stevens

This list is very definitive. And as you allude to, these were great LEADERS, not just great players.

[Cahokanut]

This is basically a
Who's your favorite Captain thread.
I wouldn't think the public would be in the room when acts of Leadership takes place. Really it's the talk a Player could give a young guy after a coaches (buzz) out, or bringing the cue stick with you, when the boys get trouble going in the bar.
It's something that happens behind the scenes.

That said. Sutter looked to be a leader. O'reilly also had a captain look.

[Blues Dave]

This is another one of those things that fall under the category of different times for one. And I also agree with the thought about being a good leader is definitely a requirement for being a good captain. We've had different captains who were also good leaders, and Schenn is right up there with the captains being good leaders. JMO

[callitwhatyouwant]

I know I said it in a comment earlier but I'm going to ask a question.

Schenns contract is 6.5 aav
Barbashev (one of my favorite blues players) with Vegas is 5 million.

They finished the same in points. Play a very similar style in terms of you are never getting an inch of free ice with them. Is it fair to say that the leadership qualities he posses is worth that 1.5m difference? I've been saying it since last year, that we currently don't have a replacement for the person Schenn is. We have a lot of good locker room guys. But not quite the exact risk it for the team mentality that Schenn has. I think Neighbours is the next guy that is in that mold. Their body seems to be an after thought when playing.

Schenns value is hard to quantify, but it certainly is worth a couple million alone, even with 0 production.

[AtillaTheBlue1]

Schenn literally started the night off in the most important game of the season. He carried this squad to the playoffs. He told management he wanted to stick in STL. He is a Blue thru and thru. Gloria doesn't exist without Schenner. He might have been the catalyst for the 2019 cup. And now he is running a line with Snuggy? He made kryou and Hollywood all timers. Is Schenner literally the best Captain in Blues history?

No, Brian Sutter, Chris Pronger, etc

But, he's pushed to being a leader on the ice, and will drop the gloves with bigger and tougher for this team. So he's there, but pronger and sutter were a next level captain. . And he's 10000x more of a Leader than the powerless power forward, Backes was.

[Cardsfanforlife]

Schenn literally started the night off in the most important game of the season. He carried this squad to the playoffs. He told management he wanted to stick in STL. He is a Blue thru and thru. Gloria doesn't exist without Schenner. He might have been the catalyst for the 2019 cup. And now he is running a line with Snuggy? He made kryou and Hollywood all timers. Is Schenner literally the best Captain in Blues history?

No, Brian Sutter, Chris Pronger, etc

But, he's pushed to being a leader on the ice, and will drop the gloves with bigger and tougher for this team. So he's there, but pronger and sutter were a next level captain. . And he's 10000x more of a Leader than the powerless power forward, Backes was.

Pronger was a great one. Only problem was he would take stupid penalties.

[27-12-16]

I am going with Brian Sutter, but Schenn is a hell of a captain and an all time great Blue.

Side note, I don't care if he was the captain in 2019, Petro is not in the even in the top five...

[11WSChamps]

I’m probably older than most but my vote is Brian Sutter, he was heart and soul!

Hands down.

[Chubbs0910]

The best captain is the one who lifts the cup.

That is the whole point.

[thegibby.]

Barry Gibbs?


My vote would go to Brian Sutter also.