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Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 11:33 am
by ecleme22
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am
Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.
Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.
Bingo Basil
Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.
Siani has no place on this team.
As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.
lol
Walker has been pretty good.
Walker has looked better in the OF. But it still makes sense to have MS as a D replacement.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 11:36 am
by Pink Freud
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:28 am
I almost spit out my beer when I say Pages at 2nd, funny as heck seeing that body playing there.
I wanted to see him turn one or at least belly dive for a ground ball.
When I heard that I had flashbacks of Jose DeLeon in LF during an extra-inning marathon many years ago.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 11:36 am
by ecleme22
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:13 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am
Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.
Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.
Bingo Basil
Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.
Siani has no place on this team.
As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.
lol
Walker has been pretty good.
Not only pretty good, Walker's a +2 DRS, only +1 behind the league leaders!
He's improved dramatically under J. Jay's tutelage.
Sinai has no place on this team w/VSII establishing himself as an everyday CFer w/ a +1 DRS (tied for 3rd best in MLB).
As we saw last night, Siani here kept them from having a MI when needed.
And MS has played the role of def replacement 9 games.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 11:37 am
by jw0595
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It's almost always better to be lucky than smart. In the short term, anyway.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 11:46 am
by Quincy Varnish
Melville wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:32 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.
Using your most versatile fielder as DH isn’t smart. IMO the real stupidity revealed last night was the terribly constructed roster.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 11:47 am
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:46 am
Melville wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:32 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.
Using your most versatile fielder as DH isn’t smart. IMO the real stupidity revealed last night was the terribly constructed roster.
100%
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
by Basil Shabazz
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:13 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am
Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.
Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.
Bingo Basil
Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.
Siani has no place on this team.
As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.
lol
Walker has been pretty good.
Not only pretty good, Walker's a +2 DRS, only +1 behind the league leaders!
He's improved dramatically under J. Jay's tutelage.
Sinai has no place on this team w/VSII establishing himself as an everyday CFer w/ a +1 DRS (tied for 3rd best in MLB).
As we saw last night, Siani here kept them from having a MI when needed.
And MS has played the role of def replacement 9 games.
Haha
Why do you think that is?
Is it because Walker and Scott haven’t been + defenders at their positions?
You know better. You just hitched your wagon to Siani and are now arguing to save face. You don’t have to do that buddy. We all are wrong sometimes. It’s okay.
Marmol is using Siani as a defensive replacement to save face for having him here. Don’t be an Oli.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 13:02 pm
by hugeCardfan
Chubbs0910 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:24 am
Melville wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:32 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.
Yeah there's really no excuse. TLR probably cried a little. Not only having to play Pages at 2b but inserting the backup catcher.
What's the problem with inserting the backup catcher? He's still available to catch. You'd just need to replace the 2B position with another out of place player.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 13:16 pm
by Francis Park Thug
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 01:19 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It proved to be a good move.
Credit where credit is due
He gets credit for a mistake that happened to work? Every move MO or Oli make is a good one in your opinion. At least your consistent.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 13:25 pm
by ecleme22
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:13 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am
Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.
Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.
Bingo Basil
Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.
Siani has no place on this team.
As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.
lol
Walker has been pretty good.
Not only pretty good, Walker's a +2 DRS, only +1 behind the league leaders!
He's improved dramatically under J. Jay's tutelage.
Sinai has no place on this team w/VSII establishing himself as an everyday CFer w/ a +1 DRS (tied for 3rd best in MLB).
As we saw last night, Siani here kept them from having a MI when needed.
And MS has played the role of def replacement 9 games.
Haha
Why do you think that is?
Is it because Walker and Scott haven’t been + defenders at their positions?
You know better. You just hitched your wagon to Siani and are now arguing to save face. You don’t have to do that buddy. We all are wrong sometimes. It’s okay.
Marmol is using Siani as a defensive replacement to save face for having him here. Don’t be an Oli.
What did I say a few weeks ago? I said Siani is a better roster edition because the other players are going to get a ton of playing time, and Jordan Walker can use a defensive replacement. Also, Siani can pinch run.
This is the exact way I said he would be used.
Did you really think MS was going to get a bunch of starts w JW/VS/LN starting? Of course not.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 17:00 pm
by Ozziesfan41
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:13 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am
Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.
Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.
Bingo Basil
Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.
Siani has no place on this team.
As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.
lol
Walker has been pretty good.
Not only pretty good, Walker's a +2 DRS, only +1 behind the league leaders!
He's improved dramatically under J. Jay's tutelage.
Sinai has no place on this team w/VSII establishing himself as an everyday CFer w/ a +1 DRS (tied for 3rd best in MLB).
As we saw last night, Siani here kept them from having a MI when needed.
And MS has played the role of def replacement 9 games.
Haha
Why do you think that is?
Is it because Walker and Scott haven’t been + defenders at their positions?
You know better. You just hitched your wagon to Siani and are now arguing to save face. You don’t have to do that buddy. We all are wrong sometimes. It’s okay.
Marmol is using Siani as a defensive replacement to save face for having him here. Don’t be an Oli.
What did I say a few weeks ago? I said Siani is a better roster edition because the other players are going to get a ton of playing time, and Jordan Walker can use a defensive replacement. Also, Siani can pinch run.
This is the exact way I said he would be used.
Did you really think MS was going to get a bunch of starts w JW/VS/LN starting? Of course not.
The reason he doesn’t get more playing time is he sucks. If he was a better player he would get more playing time. It’s a waste of a roster spot. I’ve never seen a team so dumb their philosophy for the bench is we have to make sure that spot goes to a player who is so terrible he will rarely be used
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 18:37 pm
by Melville
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:10 am
Melville wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:32 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.
It worked...
Kinda pathetic that a 23 year old has to sit due to a stiff back 12 games into a season after a day off.
How is the Unikkkorn Smellville? Never been anything like him.
Factually, it did not work.
His lineup blunder forced him to play a C at 2B.
The fact that he was forced to do so is proof positive his lineup choice was a terrible mistake.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 18:39 pm
by Melville
jw0595 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:37 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It's almost always better to be lucky than smart. In the short term, anyway.
Preferable to be both smart and lucky.
More of the former produces more of the latter.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 18:58 pm
by ecleme22
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 17:00 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:13 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am
Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.
Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.
Bingo Basil
Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.
Siani has no place on this team.
As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.
lol
Walker has been pretty good.
Not only pretty good, Walker's a +2 DRS, only +1 behind the league leaders!
He's improved dramatically under J. Jay's tutelage.
Sinai has no place on this team w/VSII establishing himself as an everyday CFer w/ a +1 DRS (tied for 3rd best in MLB).
As we saw last night, Siani here kept them from having a MI when needed.
And MS has played the role of def replacement 9 games.
Haha
Why do you think that is?
Is it because Walker and Scott haven’t been + defenders at their positions?
You know better. You just hitched your wagon to Siani and are now arguing to save face. You don’t have to do that buddy. We all are wrong sometimes. It’s okay.
Marmol is using Siani as a defensive replacement to save face for having him here. Don’t be an Oli.
What did I say a few weeks ago? I said Siani is a better roster edition because the other players are going to get a ton of playing time, and Jordan Walker can use a defensive replacement. Also, Siani can pinch run.
This is the exact way I said he would be used.
Did you really think MS was going to get a bunch of starts w JW/VS/LN starting? Of course not.
The reason he doesn’t get more playing time is he sucks. If he was a better player he would get more playing time. It’s a waste of a roster spot. I’ve never seen a team so dumb their philosophy for the bench is we have to make sure that spot goes to a player who is so terrible he will rarely be used
Fact is, the org wants the CURRENT roster’s playing time exactly as is. At least to begin the season.
So if Barrero, for example, was on the roster, he would see similar PR/def replacement playing time as Siani.
Now all this could change, but Siani does currently serve a role as being a really darn good def replacement and PR.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 19:31 pm
by Chubbs0910
hugeCardfan wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:02 pm
Chubbs0910 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:24 am
Melville wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:32 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm
Give Oli credit.
Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.
Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.
Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky
It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.
Yeah there's really no excuse. TLR probably cried a little. Not only having to play Pages at 2b but inserting the backup catcher.
What's the problem with inserting the backup catcher? He's still available to catch. You'd just need to replace the 2B position with another out of place player.
Did you ever watch during the TLR era? He just never did it. And was far too prepared to pull an Ollie.
Re: The Pages to 2b worked
Posted: 12 Apr 2025 20:09 pm
by Ozziesfan41
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 18:58 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 17:00 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 11:13 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am
Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.
Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.
Bingo Basil
Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.
Siani has no place on this team.
As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.
lol
Walker has been pretty good.
Not only pretty good, Walker's a +2 DRS, only +1 behind the league leaders!
He's improved dramatically under J. Jay's tutelage.
Sinai has no place on this team w/VSII establishing himself as an everyday CFer w/ a +1 DRS (tied for 3rd best in MLB).
As we saw last night, Siani here kept them from having a MI when needed.
And MS has played the role of def replacement 9 games.
Haha
Why do you think that is?
Is it because Walker and Scott haven’t been + defenders at their positions?
You know better. You just hitched your wagon to Siani and are now arguing to save face. You don’t have to do that buddy. We all are wrong sometimes. It’s okay.
Marmol is using Siani as a defensive replacement to save face for having him here. Don’t be an Oli.
What did I say a few weeks ago? I said Siani is a better roster edition because the other players are going to get a ton of playing time, and Jordan Walker can use a defensive replacement. Also, Siani can pinch run.
This is the exact way I said he would be used.
Did you really think MS was going to get a bunch of starts w JW/VS/LN starting? Of course not.
The reason he doesn’t get more playing time is he sucks. If he was a better player he would get more playing time. It’s a waste of a roster spot. I’ve never seen a team so dumb their philosophy for the bench is we have to make sure that spot goes to a player who is so terrible he will rarely be used
Fact is, the org wants the CURRENT roster’s playing time exactly as is. At least to begin the season.
So if Barrero, for example, was on the roster, he would see similar PR/def replacement playing time as Siani.
Now all this could change, but Siani does currently serve a role as being a really darn good def replacement and PR.
True except Barrero could do all of than and also play the infield and is right handed which makes him much more versatile and useful than Siani