Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:42 am
thetank2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 04:23 am
wkycards wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:09 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
Yeah, for a team like the Orioles, that expects to compete, it's worth a prospect or 2 to trade for guy
that's been in camp all spring. They could have found someone.
The Orioles should have had Mo as their GM all these years. They would have done much better.
In the last two years they’ve spent $192,000,000 less than the Cardinals, but outperformed them by 38 games in a tougher division. So… maybe not all of them?
How about in the last 7 years?
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 15:57 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:42 am
thetank2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 04:23 am
wkycards wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:09 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
Yeah, for a team like the Orioles, that expects to compete, it's worth a prospect or 2 to trade for guy
that's been in camp all spring. They could have found someone.
The Orioles should have had Mo as their GM all these years. They would have done much better.
In the last two years they’ve spent $192,000,000 less than the Cardinals, but outperformed them by 38 games in a tougher division. So… maybe not all of them?
How about in the last 7 years?
How about who cares?

Are you going to rewatch the 2018 season this year? How enjoyable did you find that experience the first time?
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Cardly wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:14 pm They will regret not having his veteran innings on this staff.

Gray is injured - forearm.
Matz - injury in waiting.
Mikolasz - very average and unpredictably bad a lot of the time.
You made Gray’s injury up. You’re trying to make up Matz’ injury and devalue Mikolaz’ innings contribution.

I don’t see impending doom for missing on Kyle Gibson.
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:59 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 15:57 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:42 am
thetank2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 04:23 am
wkycards wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:09 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
Yeah, for a team like the Orioles, that expects to compete, it's worth a prospect or 2 to trade for guy
that's been in camp all spring. They could have found someone.
The Orioles should have had Mo as their GM all these years. They would have done much better.
In the last two years they’ve spent $192,000,000 less than the Cardinals, but outperformed them by 38 games in a tougher division. So… maybe not all of them?
How about in the last 7 years?
How about who cares?

Are you going to rewatch the 2018 season this year? How enjoyable did you find that experience the first time?
It’s not all that unique to build an inexpensive organization for a few years on the back of 5 years of dredging the bottom. The Cubbies did something similar in 2016 following several years of tanking. So what.
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:08 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:59 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 15:57 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:42 am
thetank2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 04:23 am
wkycards wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:09 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
Yeah, for a team like the Orioles, that expects to compete, it's worth a prospect or 2 to trade for guy
that's been in camp all spring. They could have found someone.
The Orioles should have had Mo as their GM all these years. They would have done much better.
In the last two years they’ve spent $192,000,000 less than the Cardinals, but outperformed them by 38 games in a tougher division. So… maybe not all of them?
How about in the last 7 years?
How about who cares?

Are you going to rewatch the 2018 season this year? How enjoyable did you find that experience the first time?
It’s not all that unique to build an inexpensive organization for a few years on the back of 5 years of dredging the bottom. The Cubbies did something similar in 2016 following several years of tanking. So what.
So what the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:49 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:08 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:59 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 15:57 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:42 am
thetank2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 04:23 am
wkycards wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:09 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
Yeah, for a team like the Orioles, that expects to compete, it's worth a prospect or 2 to trade for guy
that's been in camp all spring. They could have found someone.
The Orioles should have had Mo as their GM all these years. They would have done much better.
In the last two years they’ve spent $192,000,000 less than the Cardinals, but outperformed them by 38 games in a tougher division. So… maybe not all of them?
How about in the last 7 years?
How about who cares?

Are you going to rewatch the 2018 season this year? How enjoyable did you find that experience the first time?
It’s not all that unique to build an inexpensive organization for a few years on the back of 5 years of dredging the bottom. The Cubbies did something similar in 2016 following several years of tanking. So what.
So what the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
They do need to get over the postseason hump though, their playoff record is as bad as the Cardinals over the last decade. Their last playoff win was the 2014 ALDS. 0-10 since then.
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Futuregm2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:10 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:49 pmSo what - the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze, there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
They do need to get over the postseason hump though, their playoff record is as bad as the Cardinals over the last decade. Their last playoff win was the 2014 ALDS. 0-10 since then.
It’s not an easy task when the Dodgers are in the championship soup. Playoffs are not a crapshoot, but the WS is a coin flip. When the Dodgers have a weighted coin - why bother? This is why the Yankees aren’t chasing them. So why should the Orioles? Their playoff path is succinctly in their roster, and virtually guaranteed. That is in hand.

Try doing everything right when you’re Lucid, and Tesla does everything wrong. That’s the Orioles battle, against the Yankees and the Dodgers. The O’s chances remain legitimate… Cardinals are shot out the game.
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Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:46 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:10 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:49 pmSo what - the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze, there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
They do need to get over the postseason hump though, their playoff record is as bad as the Cardinals over the last decade. Their last playoff win was the 2014 ALDS. 0-10 since then.
It’s not an easy task when the Dodgers are in the championship soup. Playoffs are not a crapshoot, but the WS is a coin flip. When the Dodgers have a weighted coin - why bother? This is why the Yankees aren’t chasing them. So why should the Orioles? Their playoff path is succinctly in their roster, and virtually guaranteed. That is in hand.

Try doing everything right when you’re Lucid, and Tesla does everything wrong. That’s the Orioles battle, against the Yankees and the Dodgers. The O’s chances remain legitimate… Cardinals are shot out the game.
The Dodgers have nothing to do with the AL playoffs which is where the Orioles have failed.
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Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:46 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:10 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:49 pmSo what - the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze, there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
They do need to get over the postseason hump though, their playoff record is as bad as the Cardinals over the last decade. Their last playoff win was the 2014 ALDS. 0-10 since then.
It’s not an easy task when the Dodgers are in the championship soup. Playoffs are not a crapshoot, but the WS is a coin flip. When the Dodgers have a weighted coin - why bother? This is why the Yankees aren’t chasing them. So why should the Orioles? Their playoff path is succinctly in their roster, and virtually guaranteed. That is in hand.

Try doing everything right when you’re Lucid, and Tesla does everything wrong. That’s the Orioles battle, against the Yankees and the Dodgers. The O’s chances remain legitimate… Cardinals are shot out the game.
Orioles lost to the Royals and Rangers the last 2 years. They haven’t even had the chance to lose to the Yankees or Dodgers yet. The AL hasn’t even been that great the last couple years and they’ve failed to win a playoff game.
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hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:57 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:46 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:10 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:49 pmSo what - the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze, there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
They do need to get over the postseason hump though, their playoff record is as bad as the Cardinals over the last decade. Their last playoff win was the 2014 ALDS. 0-10 since then.
It’s not an easy task when the Dodgers are in the championship soup. Playoffs are not a crapshoot, but the WS is a coin flip. When the Dodgers have a weighted coin - why bother? This is why the Yankees aren’t chasing them. So why should the Orioles? Their playoff path is succinctly in their roster, and virtually guaranteed. That is in hand.

Try doing everything right when you’re Lucid, and Tesla does everything wrong. That’s the Orioles battle, against the Yankees and the Dodgers. The O’s chances remain legitimate… Cardinals are shot out the game.
The Dodgers have nothing to do with the AL playoffs which is where the Orioles have failed.
Hey - when something doesn’t make sense to you, it’s better to wait until it does.
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Futuregm2 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 00:36 am
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:46 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:10 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:49 pmSo what - the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze, there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
They do need to get over the postseason hump though, their playoff record is as bad as the Cardinals over the last decade. Their last playoff win was the 2014 ALDS. 0-10 since then.
It’s not an easy task when the Dodgers are in the championship soup. Playoffs are not a crapshoot, but the WS is a coin flip. When the Dodgers have a weighted coin - why bother? This is why the Yankees aren’t chasing them. So why should the Orioles? Their playoff path is succinctly in their roster, and virtually guaranteed. That is in hand.

Try doing everything right when you’re Lucid, and Tesla does everything wrong. That’s the Orioles battle, against the Yankees and the Dodgers. The O’s chances remain legitimate… Cardinals are shot out the game.
Orioles lost to the Royals and Rangers the last 2 years. They haven’t even had the chance to lose to the Yankees or Dodgers yet. The AL hasn’t even been that great the last couple years and they’ve failed to win a playoff game.
That’s basically the point - best of the AL cannot compete with the Dodgers, which levels their plane.

Are we seriously going to celebrate ONE playoff win? Is that the foundation of this argument? Orioles bad, Cardinals good?

Seems like the AL’s best being lesser than the Dodgers was already baked in…
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Re: Orioles Sign Kyle Gibson $5.25M

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Quincy Varnish wrote: 23 Mar 2025 01:02 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:57 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:46 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 23:10 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:49 pmSo what - the Orioles had the best system in MLB for 3 years and have only upwardly appreciating assets coming out of their ears. In that gaze, there is only the reflection of a dying brand.
They do need to get over the postseason hump though, their playoff record is as bad as the Cardinals over the last decade. Their last playoff win was the 2014 ALDS. 0-10 since then.
It’s not an easy task when the Dodgers are in the championship soup. Playoffs are not a crapshoot, but the WS is a coin flip. When the Dodgers have a weighted coin - why bother? This is why the Yankees aren’t chasing them. So why should the Orioles? Their playoff path is succinctly in their roster, and virtually guaranteed. That is in hand.

Try doing everything right when you’re Lucid, and Tesla does everything wrong. That’s the Orioles battle, against the Yankees and the Dodgers. The O’s chances remain legitimate… Cardinals are shot out the game.
The Dodgers have nothing to do with the AL playoffs which is where the Orioles have failed.
Hey - when something doesn’t make sense to you, it’s better to wait until it does.
True. That gobbledegook was never gonna make sense. Should have left you to choke on it.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
+1 you're spot on correct. It boggles my mind why a pitcher waits this long to sign. I hope that he has a great season and doesn't get hurt.
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JB2011 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 08:01 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
+1 you're spot on correct. It boggles my mind why a pitcher waits this long to sign. I hope that he has a great season and doesn't get hurt.
You think Gibson has just been lounging by a pool until the O’s signed him?

You realize he has probably been going through a simulated spring training/workout sign at least February.
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ecleme22 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 09:12 am
JB2011 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 08:01 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
+1 you're spot on correct. It boggles my mind why a pitcher waits this long to sign. I hope that he has a great season and doesn't get hurt.
You think Gibson has just been lounging by a pool until the O’s signed him?

You realize he has probably been going through a simulated spring training/workout sign at least February.
Lol...yay! :roll:
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ecleme22 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 09:12 am
JB2011 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 08:01 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 20:02 pm Signed him too late in spring he will be a dumpster fire
+1 you're spot on correct. It boggles my mind why a pitcher waits this long to sign. I hope that he has a great season and doesn't get hurt.
You think Gibson has just been lounging by a pool until the O’s signed him?

You realize he has probably been going through a simulated spring training/workout sign at least February.
You do realize that there's a huge difference between what you describe, not being signed and having to "get ready' for the season also known as an extended spring training once a player is signed. Correct?
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